Astute
Well-Known Member
If any country puts greed before the people like the EU does we just walk away.
If any country puts greed before the people like the EU does we just walk away.That’s the other danger of course if the brexit negotiations with the EU are anything to go by.
Here we go again.Ahhh yes multiple lies are just one small lie. What rubbish.
What makes you say that?
If it don't benefit us we won't sign it. If it doesn't benefit them they won't sign it. There is a lot more to protect in 28 regions than just 1.
If any country puts greed before the people like the EU does we just walk away.
No one wants it to suffer. Those of us who genuinely believe Brexit is a disaster believe it is going to negative for the country. It's completely different from wanting it to all go wrong to prove a point.
Not sure why any of this matters as apparently we are going to be under Shariah Law within 100 years.
So you want a deal that benefits other countries and not us over trading to WTO rules?If we don’t sign it we default to WTO which doesn’t benefit us. Struggling to see the gain here. Maybe you could explain?
So we should get shafted by other countries like we do by the EU?And that advances us how? You’re making a very good case for remain here.
Where have I said I want it to suffer? I see it suffering and see it is going to continue to suffer and I am complaining about it you moron. If brains were dynamite you wouldn’t have enough to blow your nose.
Why won't you take my bet then, if it is so ridiculous? Plus I said parts of the UK will be under elements of Shariah law.
There's saying 'of course we don't want it to fail' and then there's acting like you want the complete opposite.
You're not alone though, there's millions of people that are acting like you.
If we don’t sign it we default to WTO which doesn’t benefit us. Struggling to see the gain here. Maybe you could explain?
Here we go again.
They all lied. But you only concentrate on the lies from one side.
I am not against the EU. In principle it is good. But it includes so much that is bad. And they put egos before what is best for the people of the EU.
So you want a deal that benefits other countries and not us over trading to WTO rules?
You are too used to the way that the EU deals with us. Other countries will be after deals that benefit both sides.
Pass what blame?You and others are preparing the groundwork to pass the blame when it all goes wrong.
Happy to take your best but not sure I am going to leave until 132.
So we should get shafted by other countries like we do by the EU?
No I don't. I try and keep it balanced on here. Who keeps mentioning the bus on here but not the lies from the other side?As do you.
A lot more than the EU....and the UK governments always does what's best for its citizens and the wider world?
Why do we need them more than they need us?You think we’re going to be able dictate terms to the likes of the USA and India? We need them more than they need us. If anyone is dictating terms it will be them. Inferior unethically farmed meat product from the USA and more migration from India. If you’re suggesting we should tell them to swivel and default to WTO where’s the gain? We were better off as an EU member. How is your mentality advancing the country?
You and others are preparing the groundwork to pass the blame when it all goes wrong.
Happy to take your best but not sure I am going to leave until 132.
The EU has been shafting us for years.WTO means we’ve shafted ourselves. You’re really struggling here. We’re in the EU it’s leaving that is giving the EU the opportunity to shaft us.
Just like people like myself that can think for myself and look at it from both sides are biased because I don't always agree with those still moaning about which way the vote went.It’s been happening for a while. People like us are ruining the country just yesterday, the people who didn’t vote leave getting blamed for brexit failing every week on question time from members of the audience who did vote leave etc etc
Why do we need them more than they need us?
A trade deal is mutual.
So what sort of deal does the EU have with the USA and India?
Just like people like myself that can think for myself and look at it from both sides are biased because I don't always agree with those still moaning about which way the vote went.
Is that right?If you could look at it from both sides we’d be agreeing on half the things we discuss. That isn’t happening.
Is that right?
I say that both Labour an the Tories are poor. You have a go at me for defending May and having a go at Labour.
I say that there is good and bad about being in the EU. You have a go at me for mentioning the bad.
Look at this thread again then. Most days it is a witch hunt against anyone who says anything against the EU or Corbyn. Most days it is a one sided rant and not a debate. So it keeps going around in circles.
I have always tried to be polite and put across good and bad from each side. Have you ever tried havi g a debate with those who have a fixed view and will defend it whatever?
No I don't. I try and keep it balanced on here. Who keeps mentioning the bus on here but not the lies from the other side?
Everyone knows about the bus. It isn't new news.
THEY BOTH LIED.
Is that right?
I say that both Labour an the Tories are poor. You have a go at me for defending May and having a go at Labour.
I say that there is good and bad about being in the EU. You have a go at me for mentioning the bad.
A lot more than the EU.
Soon our goods will have 'Made in the UK' instead of 'Made in the EU'
Do you have examples of how the UK takes better care of its citizens and the wider world?
Our goods were I work have always said made in the UK. That isn’t the problem. The problem is that made in the U.K. will no longer mean made in the EU. and at times that’s going to deny UK companies access to market.
Nonsense
Compliancy with EU regulations is all that matters.
Do you imagine there are no 'Made in China' products in the EU?
Another area you clearly don’t understand. I’m not talking about consumables I’m talking about industrial equipment.
If you’re selling into a particular market and the tender specification specifically says goods must be of EU origin it’s written that way quite deliberately to stop inferior products from China, India etc. This is very common practice in the oil and gas industries, power generation industries and utilities industries. Especially in the Middle East and Gulf states but not exclusively to this region of the world and indeed in the EU itself. An EU certificate of origin is very much viewed as quality assurance.
Correct, I was referring to consumer goods, so apologies Tony.
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