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The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (17 Viewers)

  • Thread starter jimmyhillsfanclub
  • Start date Jun 8, 2016
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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed Jun 15, 2016.
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Ashdown

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 16, 2017
  • #7,701
Kingokings204 said:
I heard she has moved on and started blaming Tim fisher now.
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Quite like to see them both penniless and tied back to back in the desert myself with just a bucket of piss to drink from the Sky Blue Trust and Donald Trump !
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Oct 16, 2017
  • #7,702
A guy who grabs women by the genitals is not really any better though, is he?
 
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Ashdown

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 16, 2017
  • #7,703
Sick Boy said:
A guy who grabs women by the genitals is not really any better though, is he?
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Nope nor is her husband but strange folk reach great heights in the US. !
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 16, 2017
  • #7,704
Sick Boy said:
A guy who grabs women by the genitals is not really any better though, is he?
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Is this Bill Clinton you are talking about? I don't think anyone implied rape about Bill so bit unfair to be honest.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 16, 2017
  • #7,705
Grendel said:
Do you really believe the tripe you type?

Donald Trump was the easiest opponent any political adversary could have. Rude, brash no political experience and no attempt to hide his feelings on anything.

The Democrats could have chosen any candidate and won. It was nothing to do with the Russians it was Clinton. This wretched duo have baggage going back 40 years. Sleaze, lies and fishy deals have followed them round since they rolled into Arkansas. So when Hilary then pleaded innocence over using personal e mail accounts and deleting e mails what do people expect?

She lost as people in key states who'd never vote trump just didn't vote at all.

Anyone could have beaten trump but this arrogant, smear stained (think about it) creature.
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Well she may have been a bad candidate, but she was in the running for a long time. Which is not bad for a can of beans. I am not saying she was the right candidate, but it was a disgusting election campaign and the Russians were involved. Trump is a disgrace whatever Hillary may be.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 16, 2017
  • #7,706
Grendel said:
Is this Bill Clinton you are talking about? I don't think anyone implied rape about Bill so bit unfair to be honest.
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What happened about the 13 year old girl at some party where Trump was? Went quiet quickly. What about the ongoing case with you he woman from the apprentice where the court wants all documents from the Trump campaign to do with sexual allegations? Do you reckon she will get bought off?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 16, 2017
  • #7,707
martcov said:
Well she may have been a bad candidate, but she was in the running for a long time. Which is not bad for a can of beans. I am not saying she was the right candidate, but it was a disgusting election campaign and the Russians were involved. Trump is a disgrace whatever Hillary may be.
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So you still think she lost the election due to the Russians?

What about the fact she failed to attract the female vote as she frequently defended a serial abuser of women in the shape of her husband. What about financial scandals going back 40 years?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 16, 2017
  • #7,708
martcov said:
What happened about the 13 year old girl at some party where Trump was? Went quiet quickly. What about the ongoing case with you he woman from the apprentice where the court wants all documents from the Trump campaign to do with sexual allegations? Do you reckon she will get bought off?
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I'm talking about Clinton - though of course I apologise as there are rape claims against Clinton
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 16, 2017
  • #7,709
Meanwhile the monies not going back at all..

Clinton Foundation Will Not Return Harvey Weinstein Donations: It’s Been Spent

It appears the also Weinstein helped the clintons in their legal attempt to crush Monica Lewinsky.

I blame the Russians.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Oct 16, 2017
  • #7,710
Grendel said:
Meanwhile the monies not going back at all..

Clinton Foundation Will Not Return Harvey Weinstein Donations: It’s Been Spent

It appears the also Weinstein helped the clintons in their legal attempt to crush Monica Lewinsky.

I blame the Russians.
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Should have gone for Bernie Sanders, eh.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 16, 2017
  • #7,711
Grendel said:
So you still think she lost the election due to the Russians?

What about the fact she failed to attract the female vote as she frequently defended a serial abuser of women in the shape of her husband. What about financial scandals going back 40 years?
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No, but the Russians were involved and obviously thought they were contributing to Trump’s election. Otherwise why bother?

Well let’s see how the women fare under the pussy grabbing pee pee partying President of the USA. Doesn’t seem to be an improvement on Bill.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 16, 2017
  • #7,712
Grendel said:
Meanwhile the monies not going back at all..

Clinton Foundation Will Not Return Harvey Weinstein Donations: It’s Been Spent

It appears the also Weinstein helped the clintons in their legal attempt to crush Monica Lewinsky.

I blame the Russians.
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The Russians were ruled by a drunk at that time I think. Unlikely they were involved in blow jobs in the Oval Office.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 16, 2017
  • #7,713
martcov said:
No, but the Russians were involved and obviously thought they were contributing to Trump’s election. Otherwise why bother?

Well let’s see how the women fare under the pussy grabbing pee pee partying President of the USA. Doesn’t seem to be an improvement on Bill.
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We're the Russians involved when the Clintons paid someone who'd "encountered" Bill $800,000 to stay silent?
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 16, 2017
  • #7,714
Grendel said:
We're the Russians involved when the Clintons paid someone who'd "encountered" Bill $800,000 to stay silent?
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No, nor when Trump bunged the students of his fake university 25 million dollars to drop their fraud case.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 16, 2017
  • #7,715
martcov said:
No, nor when Trump bunged the students of his fake university 25 million dollars to drop their fraud case.
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Correct the Russians weren't involved then either.

Do you know the difference between Trump and Clinton?
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 17, 2017
  • #7,716
Grendel said:
Correct the Russians weren't involved then either.

Do you know the difference between Trump and Clinton?
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All I can think of is one of them has a golf course in Scotland.
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 17, 2017
  • #7,717
Grendel said:
Correct the Russians weren't involved then either.

Do you know the difference between Trump and Clinton?
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If you're referring to Hilary, one's a psychopath the others a sociopath? (though you could make a case for both being psychopaths).
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Oct 17, 2017
  • #7,718
https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/...e-why-dominic-cummings-fears-brexit-will-fail

Look's like even the 'brains behind' Brexit disagrees with some posters on here.
 
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Ashdown

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 17, 2017
  • #7,719
I saw the pictures of Juncker feeling up our Mother Theresa ! Do you think she's prepared to drop them for him..............all in a good cause of course. Harvey Juncker, who would have thought it !
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 17, 2017
  • #7,720
Sick Boy said:
https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/...e-why-dominic-cummings-fears-brexit-will-fail

Look's like even the 'brains behind' Brexit disagrees with some posters on here.
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another one who says going under WTO trading conditions would be a disaster.
Still, John Redwood says it will be OK so nothing to worry about.
 
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Kingokings204

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 17, 2017
  • #7,721
clint van damme said:
another one who says going under WTO trading conditions would be a disaster.
Still, John Redwood says it will be OK so nothing to worry about.
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It wouldn't be a disaster but it's not desirable. By the way I mean for both sides. End of the day we can go about everything in depth as we have done severely but a good deal for both sides is what both want. They want lots of money and we want trade, if a no deal happens neither side get anything. Doesn't make any sense to do it.
 
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Ashdown

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 17, 2017
  • #7,722
So if Brexit was reversed what are the consequences for the average Joe ?
Would prices go down and inflation recede ................No
Would there be more jobs..............No
Would pay deals for workers be stronger............No
Would our infrastructure benefit..........No
Would we be more secure from an international aggressor.............No
Would we get more of a say and favourable terms from the EU..............No
Would more than half the population ever trust the ballot box and politicians ever again..................No
Would our exports to the EU increase.....................No

Its just NO !! Brexit will happen and we can only benefit from it if real changes occur because of it !
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 17, 2017
  • #7,723
Grendel said:
Correct the Russians weren't involved then either.

Do you know the difference between Trump and Clinton?
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The Clintons are history and irrelevant. Hillary wants to sell books and Donald has the power to start WWIII and is a semi literate conman. I’d be more interested in Donald‘s games than 20 year old Bill scandals. But you obviously like a deflection.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 17, 2017
  • #7,724
Ashdown said:
So if Brexit was reversed what are the consequences for the average Joe ?
Would prices go down and inflation recede ................No
Would there be more jobs..............No
Would pay deals for workers be stronger............No
Would our infrastructure benefit..........No
Would we be more secure from an international aggressor.............No
Would we get more of a say and favourable terms from the EU..............No
Would more than half the population ever trust the ballot box and politicians ever again..................No
Would our exports to the EU increase.....................No

Its just NO !! Brexit will happen and we can only benefit from it if real changes occur because of it !
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The last bit is true.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 17, 2017
  • #7,725
Ashdown said:
I saw the pictures of Juncker feeling up our Mother Theresa ! Do you think she's prepared to drop them for him..............all in a good cause of course. Harvey Juncker, who would have thought it !
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She’s dead.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 17, 2017
  • #7,726
Grendel said:
We're the Russians involved when the Clintons paid someone who'd "encountered" Bill $800,000 to stay silent?
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I’d say they were involved in setting up decent hookers for the Donald in Moscow.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 17, 2017
  • #7,727
Ashdown said:
So if Brexit was reversed what are the consequences for the average Joe ?
Would prices go down and inflation recede ................No
Would there be more jobs..............No
Would pay deals for workers be stronger............No
Would our infrastructure benefit..........No
Would we be more secure from an international aggressor.............No
Would we get more of a say and favourable terms from the EU..............No
Would more than half the population ever trust the ballot box and politicians ever again..................No
Would our exports to the EU increase.....................No

Its just NO !! Brexit will happen and we can only benefit from it if real changes occur because of it !
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The question is not what we would get if we stayed. We know the country was well set up, even if the wealth distribution is a bit skewed, on the day of the Brexit vote. The question is will the points you mentioned be improved by Brexit? Doesn’t look good at the moment as we don’t know where we’re heading. So I am not convinced that Brexit is a good idea. More likely to screw us and Europe up. Good for Putin and Trump though.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 17, 2017
  • #7,728
Ashdown said:
So if Brexit was reversed what are the consequences for the average Joe ?
Would prices go down and inflation recede ................No
Would there be more jobs..............No
Would pay deals for workers be stronger............No
Would our infrastructure benefit..........No
Would we be more secure from an international aggressor.............No
Would we get more of a say and favourable terms from the EU..............No
Would more than half the population ever trust the ballot box and politicians ever again..................No
Would our exports to the EU increase.....................No

Its just NO !! Brexit will happen and we can only benefit from it if real changes occur because of it !
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I'd rather we stayed in given the jokers we had in charge but the vote was leave and I respect that, but leaving without a deal seems crazy to me. We need to secure the best deal possible and if that takes 3 or 4 years then let it. This rush to get out at all costs is madness.
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 17, 2017
  • #7,729
clint van damme said:
another one who says going under WTO trading conditions would be a disaster.
Still, John Redwood says it will be OK so nothing to worry about.
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John Redwood AKA the 1994 lipsinc battle champion.
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 17, 2017
  • #7,730
martcov said:
The Clintons are history and irrelevant. Hillary wants to sell books and Donald has the power to start WWIII and is a semi literate conman. I’d be more interested in Donald‘s games than 20 year old Bill scandals. But you obviously like a deflection.
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You were droning on about the Clintons and the great Russian conspiracy you clueless buffoon.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 17, 2017
  • #7,731
Grendel said:
You were droning on about the Clintons and the great Russian conspiracy you clueless buffoon.
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You were droning on about cans of beans. And you call me clueless...
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 17, 2017
  • #7,732
martcov said:
You were droning on about cans of beans. And you call me clueless...
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Yes and you were too dumb to understand the point.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 17, 2017
  • #7,733
Grendel said:
Yes and you were too dumb to understand the point.
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Not really. I agreed about the candidacy, but pointed out that the campaign from Trump was disgusting - and yes there was Russian interference which was apparently well targeted. According to both Facebook and Google. The Russians thought it was worth it. Whether that was a deciding factor will probably never be known.
 
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Ashdown

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 18, 2017
  • #7,734
Unemployment has dropped here by yet another 58,000. Isn't that just a sign that we are falling to pieces !!
 
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Kingokings204

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 18, 2017
  • #7,735
Boost for UK as leak reveals Germany is keen to cut a Brexit deal and Hungary warns EU not to take a hard line on talks

I know it's a shit paper but worth a read. It's common sense stuff at least.
 
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