Astute
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They are also coming here because the EU has fucked their countries up.
They are also coming here because the EU has fucked their countries up.People are coming because of jobs. Less jobs less people.
You know what I have said. Guarantee status for all migrants here and in the EU.
We need about a million new homes. But with EU rules we would need an extra 6 figure number on top each year. We can't plan for the future whilst following EU rules.
Are you still saying that mass immigration has had no effect on homelessness?
60 million?That goes up and down. I keep hearing 60 million Euro. But, it is all speculation.
They are also coming here because the EU has fucked their countries up.
You keep using the term gift.Are you saying that we should gift houses to the homeless (British only, of course?)
They are also coming here because the EU has fucked their countries up.
You keep using the term gift.
60 million?
If only.
These so called negotiators for the EU really are a joke. It’s obvious that they know they’re on shaky ground regarding the divorce payment.
If they’d had any confidence in their right to demand megabucks, the first thing they’d have done would have been to present the UK team with a bill on day one of the talks that was close to 100% irrefutable. A bill that had been prepared as a result of top EU lawyers scrutinising the agreements between the UK and EU and calculating the UK’s financial liability. A bill that they’d be confident would stand up in court if necessary.
The fact that they still haven’t done that speaks volumes, it tells us and importantly the UK team that the EU position is weak and that the utter clown Barnier is grandstanding.
They have asked us what we think we owe. We have said we will honour our commitments. I don’t know why this cannot be discussed behind closed doors. Barnier must also have a list which he should put on the table.
You were talking about the problems in Ireland. So I thought I would too.Yea it is all Ireland's fault that Britain is leaving the EU.
And long may they enjoy itPlenty of Romanians study in Bucharest. Great city.
They don't have a clue. They are plucking figures out of the sky. There is no detailed bill and no acknowledge we have spent hundred of billions since we joined for "free trade"
What about our stake in the EU buildings that we helped fund and what about us having a massive trade decifict with the EU. We buy around double what we sell them.
Just like a dodgy TV. They should be paying us our money back and we get the hell out there.
As I have already said...SB mentioned the problems in Ireland. By that I read 'troubles' - & some are using Brexit to suggest 'troubles' could start again - THAT would be a problem, the rhetoric using such veiled threats is a problem too. Brexit itself is no reason to take up armsWell the north voted remain and the south didn’t get a vote. Not sure how you could say that this is down to the Irish, whichever side of the border they’re from.
You were talking about the problems in Ireland. So I thought I would too.
The fear about returning to violence is not of Britain as a whole becoming violent - just the Irish (NI & ROI)! They don't need to return to violence...some rhetoric suggests a desire to encourage it though...like on QT tonight talking about 'hard borders'
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As I have already said...SB mentioned the problems in Ireland. By that I read 'troubles' - & some are using Brexit to suggest 'troubles' could start again - THAT would be a problem, the rhetoric using such veiled threats is a problem too. Brexit itself is no reason to take up arms
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Would you say at some time that when you leave a club you want your membership fees back? Or your ST money back for the last 20 years if you stop supporting CCFC? That is past tense.
The trade deficit is not money you get back at some future time.
The buildings should be deducted from the bill.
A decent post ruined by the last line.I will agree that both sides are posturing. It will go to the last minute. We only have to look at CCFC and the Ricoh to see how these things go. We will do a deal with Wasps.... but late in the day. In the meantime there will be talk about the Butts or Hinckley or Nuneaton. At the end we will be at the Ricoh. Same here, there will be talk of 100, 60, 50 million. No deal. Then we’re not talking. Then a mediator, or they meet on the sidelines of an event informally.. and then it’s back on .. at the last minute it is 40 Million Euro.
We have paid over half a trillion pounds into the EU project over the years. Yes over 500,000,000,000 pounds.They don't have a clue. They are plucking figures out of the sky. There is no detailed bill and no acknowledge we have spent hundred of billions since we joined for "free trade"
What about our stake in the EU buildings that we helped fund and what about us having a massive trade decifict with the EU. We buy around double what we sell them.
Just like a dodgy TV. They should be paying us our money back and we get the hell out there.
Would you like to pay for your ST for many years after you stop going? Would you be happy if you had to pay for dodgy loans that SISU had made?Would you say at some time that when you leave a club you want your membership fees back? Or your ST money back for the last 20 years if you stop supporting CCFC? That is past tense.
The trade deficit is not money you get back at some future time.
The buildings should be deducted from the bill.
Try to not look at it through pro EU goggles.No one in Ireland deserves this. We have a GFA which assumes we are in the EU. By leaving we’re breaking the agreement. There may well be violence if there is a hard border. The Brexiteers caused this problem. The government could solve the problem by leaving NI in the Customs Union as suggested by the EU. But, they cannot because they are reliant on the DUP.
So the UK would have to open borders to everyone that lives in India but the EU wouldn't?
You were talking about the problems in Ireland. So I thought I would too.
The fear about returning to violence is not of Britain as a whole becoming violent - just the Irish (NI & ROI)! They don't need to return to violence...some rhetoric suggests a desire to encourage it though...like on QT tonight talking about 'hard borders'
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Look back at what has been said. Stated as though India wants open borders for a trade deal.they're not asking for an open border but an easing of visa requirements, (I think mainly for people who want to study in the UK).
I don't know what the current criteria for an Indian citizen to get into other EU countries is but this would be a separate arrangement in the same way any post Brexit trade deal we sign would be separate from the EU.
Try to not look at it through pro EU goggles.
Ireland should be treated as one country. Nobody should want any risk of past atrocities returning. So who wants a hard border splitting the country into two?
The UK certainly doesn't want a hard border. I would love to see the day that Ireland could be fully united. Just like what happened with Germany.
So who holds all the cards on how borders will look like? It certainly isn't the Irish or the UK government.
Yet you try and blame it all on those who voted to leave.
So one size fits all?I was referring to Brexit. It's a bit strange after all the talk of the borders being tightened up, yet now it now appears that the open border policy with the EU is fine?
So one size fits all?
Would you be happy for Ireland to be split into two again?
So trade borders and freedom of movement for residents is the same?In am ideal world NI would remain in the Customs Union but the DUP aren't going to allow that to happen, therefore a hard border is likely.
It is inevitable that the UK will deregulate, I can't see the Irish being happy with an open border in that circumstance. Of course, it's all the EU's fault. It's also strange that you are now all for open borders with the EU?
So why do I get shot down for saying the same?No of course not, which is why NI should remain in the customs union.
So trade borders and freedom of movement for residents is the same?
As I have said countless times I am not against migration. But I am against total freedom of migration where you can move without funds, a job and somewhere to live. You don't need any skills that are needed. All you need is an EU passport.
Good in principle. Not good for countries planning for the future.
So why do I get shot down for saying the same?
Look back at what has been said. Stated as though India wants open borders for a trade deal.
English is clearly the second most spoken language in India. And they have a lot. About an eighth of the Indian population can speak in English. No other European language even registers there.
Saying that more go to Germany than here. They take English spoken degrees there. And the courses are free.
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