So you think I believe that people here would have been involved in making of the plan?
Looks very much like "their" plans to me as you are going on about them not having one.
Not crying and I certainly hope it works out for the best. Saying that how can anyone, including those that voted leave, not be alarmed by the speed at which the backtracking is taking place?
Out of interest what did you Base your Vote Out on? What did you want to see change?
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I didn't vote out based on that, don't know anybody who did.
Did you know that it is actually EU rules that open provision of NHS services up to competition?
Looks very much like "their" plans to me as you are going on about them not having one.
We are world leaders, always have been , 5th largest economy, fantastic broad base of skills, trading links with the entire world way before much of Europe. The EU was a sham, getting worse by the month but more than anything else we cannot keep taking people to the tune of over 300,000 per year from anywhere. Hopefully we will align with a system more akin to Australia or the old German work permit system. More than anything for me we have to stop accepting people who come here and don't integrate, those same people who invoke the most fear and add the most security risk.
I don't disagree - a voted remain.Like getting rid of Robinson and Richardson to end up with SISU!
People in London are like a different breed. They can't believe that us suckers in the provinces have voted against them. It shows the mentality of your typical university leaver, no wonder politics is a mess. They genuinely think that they know better than everybody else.
Yes, I heard that too this morning - just needs some Govt. commitment to maintain the NHS as a public service. Would go against the grain though as I don't think the Govt's hand was being forced by the EU in regard to outsourcing.
I think we all knew the £350m for the NHS was a load of bollox anyway, not that it is down to Fascist Farage anyway - he isn't a UK MP
Incidentally, I popped down to A&E earlier for a gander, and there was no queue, and my GP phone to ask when I wanted my knee op as all the waiting list have disappeared!
Let the dust settle, let people get some sleep, let the markets calm down.............No-one IS going to have all the answers whilst the fall out is still settling.
The swallows are still flying around the skies, the moon hasn't collided with us just yet and the grass is still growing on a reasonable summers day. My cat wonders what all the fuss was about, it's not often I stay up all night with him !!
Yeah how dare they, people who spend 3 years of their lives developing an advanced understanding on a subject thinking they know better than someone who reads the paper. Makes me sick
Scotland officially planning a 2nd referendum
I didn't vote out based on that, don't know anybody who did.
Did you know that it is actually EU rules that open provision of NHS services up to competition?
We've not rejected Europe or it's people we've rejected the failing EU project !
Fair enough, like I say, I was unaware. But to my recollection, outsourcing of public services (and not just the NHS) started a long time before this April.I heard that they are standing outside GP surgeries now trying to entice people in with the offers of various treatments like the strip in Magaluf....2 hip replacements and a free boob job for the ladies
The EU public contracts directive states that public service contracts (i.e. those between NHS commissioners and providers of NHS services - i.e. NHS Trusts, Charities and Private Providers) have to be advertised for open competition if their value exceeds €750k (so basically 99% of NHS commissioned contracts), this is transposed into UK law as from 18 April this year. That is a fact.
I always imagined it to be much higher.Exactly, but the hand-wringers & alarmists believe the vote has suddenly uncovered 17.5M closet Nazis.....
How does somebody go from being a socialist to voting for Ukip ?the labour strategists in London shown to be completely out of touch with its core vote yet again
Very true. In fact I'm not sure there is a labour core vote anymore.
SNP have wiped them out in Scotland and UKIP are doing the same in the Midlands and North.
Now Northern Ireland looking for an independent referendum.
Northern Irelanders' queueing outside official offices in Dublin to see if the can get a Republican Passport or dual nationality.
As borders would have to be put up between EU Republic of Ireland & Non EU Northern Ireland, after all we don't want immigrants going from France to Ireland then sneaking through the borderless border between Northern Ireland & Republic of Ireland.
My understanding is that anyone born in Northern Ireland is automatically entitled to Irish and/GB nationality, so any application would be a formality.
I am an Irish citizen, and I strongly suspect, depending on what happens with GB nationals in regard to right to free health care as well entry to EU countries, that my wife and kids will also take up Irish citizenship.
Only is you keep your room tidy and do the dishes twice a weekcan you adopt me please?
Looking at the vote in NI it would seem that the Unionists voted to leave and nationalists and republicans voted to stay. No surprise there then. There will be an issue regarding the border though. Will they leave it open and check people coming over from NI or will the put a border in place to separate the north and south?
I thought that the border being open was a vital part of the peace process, whatever your thoughts on the outcome today we have to hope it doesn't descend into violence again.
Farage is not part of the official leave campaign not is an elected official. He has no right to say how money should be spent.So, Susanna Reid has pushed Nigel Farage on the NHS this morning and guess what? He NOW says that we can't guarantee that money that currently goes to the EU can go to the NHS. The vail of deceit is falling already and the smoke hasn't even settled yet. I wonder how many voted out based on this. As John Major also pointed out you can't trust Boris, Gove or IDS with the NHS either. Between them they either want the NHS privatised or pay at source.
Big big mistake this vote.
I thought that the border being open was a vital part of the peace process, whatever your thoughts on the outcome today we have to hope it doesn't descend into violence again.
Only is you keep your room tidy and do the dishes twice a week
Would cost a shed load in fencing wouldn't it? Same with Scotland / England.
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