Who blamed the EU?
So Germany doesn't give the EU billions?You said the EU was getting billions whilst they weren't.
Not true.
So Germany doesn't give the EU billions?
So Germany doesn't give the EU billions?
Certainly does. Biggest net contributor and biggest money given to bailout countries such as Greece.
So Germany doesn't give the EU billions?
Yes it does, but the East has received billions and billions from people like me through the Solidaritätsbeitrag ( solidarity contribution - an extra income tax ) and the EU through regional support. Unlike your claim that the East receives nothing.
Please stop falling into the trap that EU contributes anything. The EU's regional aid programmes are funded by the EU's net contributor countries. The EU is only the mechanism through which the money is redistributed.
The East needs huge investment. The investment they get isn't enough. But they see billions going to the EU.Yes it does, but the East has received billions and billions from people like me through the Solidaritätsbeitrag ( solidarity contribution - an extra income tax ) and the EU through regional support. Unlike your claim that the East receives nothing.
The East needs huge investment. The investment they get isn't enough. But they see billions going to the EU.
Germany is supposed to be one country again. What was a border is now an imaginary line that is moving East slowly. Another case of a country that could help its own instead of heavily contributing to a super state with poor countries that can't cope with the Euro.
The EU is a good idea.
The Euro is a good idea.
Not all good ideas work in practice.
Where does the money come from that you say comes from the EU?Yes, but Astute was saying that the Eastern regions were getting nothing. They were getting regional aid from the EU ( no matter where it came from ) and the solidarity tax from taxpayers the whole time. It is not that these people were left totally alone and therefore voted AfD. They don't want foreigners, and in particular refugees, living in their area. That's it.
Where does the money come from that you say comes from the EU?
The EU doesn't have a massive pot of billions going spare. They decide what is going where. Then they decide what countries should pay for it. They distribute a few countries wealth to all countries in the EU. That is why we pay in about 350 million a week but about half finds it way back. It doesn't go back to the taxpayer.
So the taxpayer pays the 350 million a week.
Where does the money come from that you say comes from the EU?
The EU doesn't have a massive pot of billions going spare. They decide what is going where. Then they decide what countries should pay for it. They distribute a few countries wealth to all countries in the EU. That is why we pay in about 350 million a week but about half finds it way back. It doesn't go back to the taxpayer.
So the taxpayer pays the 350 million a week.
Where does the money come from that you say comes from the EU?
The EU doesn't have a massive pot of billions going spare. They decide what is going where. Then they decide what countries should pay for it. They distribute a few countries wealth to all countries in the EU. That is why we pay in about 350 million a week but about half finds it way back. It doesn't go back to the taxpayer.
So the taxpayer pays the 350 million a week.
Wish we redistributed in this country from areas with cash to spare, to those that needed it.
Once we leave the EU, I fear London will accelerate into the stratosphere whilst the rest of us are neglected. A bit of rebalancing wouldn't go amiss.
Wish we redistributed in this country from areas with cash to spare, to those that needed it.
Once we leave the EU, I fear London will accelerate into the stratosphere whilst the rest of us are neglected. A bit of rebalancing wouldn't go amiss.
In itself, that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing - it's the slightly bizarre thing with the increase in nationalism (small n) recently - not just UK as a whole, but Scotland, Wales even.On a serious note, I expect that long term each part of the country will have more control over themselves.
I dislike lies and false accusations. That is why I am sometimes seen to be defending SISU when all I am doing is saying what I either think or know as the truth. And I dislike SISU more than Juncker.Blimey, considering you claim to be 'neutral', I wouldn't like to see how you react when you're against something.
I couldn't agree any more.Wish we redistributed in this country from areas with cash to spare, to those that needed it.
Once we leave the EU, I fear London will accelerate into the stratosphere whilst the rest of us are neglected. A bit of rebalancing wouldn't go amiss.
I can never see that happening. We pay tax to the government. They are based in London. Many of them have never been north of Watford Gap.I think those of us in London and the south east should take back control and stop funding the rest of you.
On a serious note, I expect that long term each part of the country will have more control over themselves.
Where does the money come from that you say comes from the EU?
The EU doesn't have a massive pot of billions going spare. They decide what is going where. Then they decide what countries should pay for it. They distribute a few countries wealth to all countries in the EU. That is why we pay in about 350 million a week but about half finds it way back. It doesn't go back to the taxpayer.
So the taxpayer pays the 350 million a week.
I dislike lies and false accusations. That is why I am sometimes seen to be defending SISU when all I am doing is saying what I either think or know as the truth. And I dislike SISU more than Juncker.
The East needs huge investment. The investment they get isn't enough. But they see billions going to the EU.
Germany is supposed to be one country again. What was a border is now an imaginary line that is moving East slowly. Another case of a country that could help its own instead of heavily contributing to a super state with poor countries that can't cope with the Euro.
The EU is a good idea.
The Euro is a good idea.
Not all good ideas work in practice.
Always makes me laugh when people say "oh this building was built by EU money" and "we get EU funding for this project"
It's our money ffs, for every £2 we give we get £1 back and told where to spend it. EU money doesn't exist it's member states taxpayers money mainly Britain and German. No wonder they are shitting themselves they want our money and it's going to go. What was it 100b? Not hard to see what the EU is all about.
It will be neglected to fund some ghetto in Krakov - smart idea
The Euro has only ever been a good idea for Germany
I have always said net 175 million a week approx. It is you that sometimes quotes out of context.And gets a load back ... net is far less than 350 million- which has been proved a million times. The pro capita contribution is in realty peanuts. Making Europe a decent place to live, helping the poorer countries and improving the infrastructure is an absolute necessity if we want to prosper in a secure atmosphere.
You have to be pretty blinkered if you can't see that and pretty desperate to quote Billy Bullshit's ( BoJo's ) figures ...
And yet again who blamed the EU?The East has had huge investment and will continue to need some investment. It will never be as rich as NRW or Berlin ( could become) or Hamburg- it never was before the war. That has to do with industrial history and geography - not the EU.
And yet again who blamed the EU?
I said that they see Germany giving billions to the EU. This is true.
You said that the EU gives billions to eastern Germany. False. They give back some of the money Germany hands to the EU. They give some of the money that the UK hands to the EU.
More fair EU?
Departing MEPs get final payoff of up to £157,000
Read the bottom paragraph by Nikki Sinclair. Then remember the clip saying it made her rich
Once again where doea the EU money come from?I said that billions and billions come from the solidarity tax ( and the EU ). The majority is from West Germany- and it is billions..
So you agree that it needs massive reform?Just because I think we should stay in the EU in our own interests doesn't mean I agree with everything in the EU. BTW.
Always makes me laugh when people say "oh this building was built by EU money" and "we get EU funding for this project"
It's our money ffs, for every £2 we give we get £1 back and told where to spend it. EU money doesn't exist it's member states taxpayers money mainly Britain and German. No wonder they are shitting themselves they want our money and it's going to go. What was it 100b? Not hard to see what the EU is all about.
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