So Registration/Identity Cards are a good thing are they?
The Nazi's/Communists/Facit or any extreme political group would certainly agree with that...they love that sort of thing.
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I will answer the question when you answer mine I promise
A or B?
Yes. Been there, done that. Ended with the destruction of most of Europe. You should watch world at war. The future is being politically and economically competitive with the major countries of the world. You want the past. It's gone. The rest of the world has moved on.
Enjoy.
Is this the German 'we' or the British 'we'?
Thing is not so long back I think you were one of those spouting about EU workers leaving Britain as a result of Brexit...which kinda explains why more people are in employment. EU people leave, vacancies arise...British people fill the jobs maybe? I'm sure you will offer a more complex reasoning though.
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It made me happy living in the EU. Brexit is dead - irrelevant in the EU. Farage said he was surprised no one was mentioning it in the German election- I'm not. We are moving on. Sorry for the UK though. I think it shows why the EU say "the clock is ticking".
You won. So be happy.
There is over 200 countries in the world. Wow how is the world still alive today the way you speak. You're still under the same mis comprehension as your Brussels buddies. They think it was the nation state that was responsible for world worlds actually it was non democratic nation states that was responsible.
Listen I respect your point of view it's clear how you see the world. many people see it like you do but I will always argue for nation state democracy and each country deciding their own currency laws and borders and parliaments.
The reason it isn't being mentioned in the German election is they don't want to face up to the fact brexit is an embarrassment for them. Sweep it under the carpet attitude it isn't really happening. It's the same attitude why we voted for brexit ironically.
The Eu is profoundly undemocratic what was it juncker said infamously "when things get serious you have to lie" And " if the french vote yes we move on and if they vote no we will continue"
you're welcome to it Mart.
White supremacists wouldn't- although they use their drivers license as an ID card in the USA. They don't believe in big government or communism ( which they would associate with ID catds ).
I don't know about A, but Cameron scrapped ID cards.
You are mental or stupid or both. Cameron scrapped ID cards as he believes in civil liberty which you clearly do not.
You are mental or stupid or both. Cameron scrapped ID cards as he believes in civil liberty which you clearly do not.
How the hell does having an ID card like most of Europe impend civil liberty? No one asks for my ID unless I get stopped at a traffic control or want money from a bank. I find it useful. I ask for it when I employ people. Why aren't people out on the streets throughout Europe protesting? In the present climate registration helps by at least giving a start in a terrorist investigation. I believe in civil liberty, but life is easier if you can prove who you are when needed.
People on here criticized Merkel for not knowing who is in her country. Bit rich coming from the U.K..
Is that the answer you promised me? So, you mean yes, Cameron is the tosser who scrapped ID cards whilst the Islamic threat continues to grow.
Cameron like the others I mentioned is a libertarian. He believed in freedom of the individual and the idea of large state control of the individual he rejected.
The nazis, the Stalinists, the Mau regime, North Korea etc are on your side.
Keep digging.
The House of Lords and the monarchy - and the great repeal act - are profoundly undemocratic.
No one is sweeping Brexit under the carpet in the German election- it just isn't relevant.
If you voted for that, then I think you made a mistake.
There you go. You didn't listen to his so called speech.Turkey? What Russia was? A communist state? Gulags? One party state? Yes, I missed that.
EU military cooperation. Yes, I hope so. Can't rely on Trump.
Unvoted? You mean nominated by elected governments - as opposed to the House of Lords? Or the royal family?
Gravy trainers? Nigel Farage!
Mandatory Euro? Yes I can see the point of that. One market with one universal currency. Logic.
I won? I didn't vote leave. Wish I had now that the truth is out.It made me happy living in the EU. Brexit is dead - irrelevant in the EU. Farage said he was surprised no one was mentioning it in the German election- I'm not. We are moving on. Sorry for the UK though. I think it shows why the EU say "the clock is ticking".
You won. So be happy.
Have watched it all more than once. All started with a dictator who brainwashed people. Germany wanting to take over Europe.Yes. Been there, done that. Ended with the destruction of most of Europe. You should watch world at war. The future is being politically and economically competitive with the major countries of the world. You want the past. It's gone. The rest of the world has moved on.
Enjoy.
We would need a police force bigger than we have now just to deal with people already here. Then when you try and do something about it the human rights card is used. It isn't easy to even remove the serious criminals. Look how long it took to sort out Hamza. His family couldn't get removed.The EU Citizens' Rights Directive 2004/38/EC. Clause 9 states EU citizens have an unrestricted right to visit for 3 months only.
Further clauses show some of the restrictions on stays over 3 months, for example clause 10 states the EU citizen must not be a burden on the host countries social assistance system. clause 12 says they must all be registered in the host country and, if the host countries government wishes, requires them to have ID cards.
Clause 22 allows the host country to suspend immigration on the basis of policy, security or health.
So the reality is, if the UK chose to enforce it, you could only come to the UK if you had work here and if you leave that job and are no longer employed you lose the right to stay here. You have to maintain employed status for 5 years to be granted permanent residence.
What are you expecting to be put in place post brexit? Presumably something stricter than the above so by definition you are looking to refuse entry to those who have jobs here which will be an issue for those industries that require that labour.
The EU Citizens' Rights Directive 2004/38/EC is more commonly referred to as the EU Freedom of Movement Directive, it is the rules around which Freedom of Movement is based so can't possibly go against it.
People have holiday homes. The rich have bought up the expensive parts of London.Because they aren't lived in. There is a record number of empty homes and its increasing.
Who said enough houses have been built? Do you think it is good that enough people come here that would occupy a small city when we can't house them...can't even house those already here or that were born here.Not really millions is it?
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but of course its all the bloody immigrants fault, nothing to do with the decline in number of homes being built.
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Same old crap reply.So lets just for a second imagine that post Brexit EU immigration is suddenly zero.
Where do we get the labour we need from? Don't say we'll let in people from the EU to work because that's what the directive is now and you've said we need to leave to take control.
And besides that how are we doing a trade deal with the EU without signing up to the same regulations on movement we've just voted to leave.
Not to mention other countries. India for example have said they will only consider a trade deal if we agree to a huge increase in migration and unlimited numbers of family members are granted permanent residence.
Will it be irrelevant when Germany has to dig deeper to make up for the billions not coming from this direction?The House of Lords and the monarchy - and the great repeal act - are profoundly undemocratic.
No one is sweeping Brexit under the carpet in the German election- it just isn't relevant.
If you voted for that, then I think you made a mistake.
You are mental or stupid or both. Cameron scrapped ID cards as he believes in civil liberty which you clearly do not.
The nazis, the Stalinists, the Mau regime, North Korea etc are on your side.
Keep digging.
Will it be irrelevant when Germany has to dig deeper to make up for the billions not coming from this direction?
Same old crap reply.
Who said zero immigration?
Being able to choose how many and what skills over having an EU passport any day.
Will these skilled people be allowed to bring their families? What about the unskilled or semi skilled that we need?
Who said enough houses have been built? Do you think it is good that enough people come here that would occupy a small city when we can't house them...can't even house those already here or that were born here.
So you have the official numbers. The proper amount is much higher.
Yes and yes. As happens now with people who come from non eu markets.
Why wouldn't they be allowed to bring their families you clown.
Well that is what I mean. Even if you restrict it to skilled workers, they will bring their families. It won't just be the workers. You clown for not catching what I was saying. Pretty sure Astute got that.
OK, so if we can't enforce the regulations now how are we going to enforce whatever new regulations come in? That's what makes no sense. We vote to leave to 'take back control of our borders' when we already have the right to control them but not he ability and / or manpower.We would need a police force bigger than we have now just to deal with people already here. Then when you try and do something about it the human rights card is used. It isn't easy to even remove the serious criminals. Look how long it took to sort out Hamza. His family couldn't get removed.
Where in particular did you want to know about. There's 26,576 in the West Midlands, 3,189 of those in Cov.So where in the cities are all these empty houses?
The rules at the moment, if we enforced them, mean only those who have jobs here are allowed in. What is the difference between that and whatever new system it is you are proposing?Who said zero immigration?
Being able to choose how many and what skills over having an EU passport any day.
Why not reduce it now?I suspect they will reduce the EU budget accordingly. People are not interested- at the moment. Who says the U.K. Won't be paying in in order to be in the single market? Not been decided yet.
Why ask when you think anyone from the EU should be allowed to live here no matter what the skills mix.Will these skilled people be allowed to bring their families? What about the unskilled or semi skilled that we need?
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