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The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (11 Viewers)

  • Thread starter jimmyhillsfanclub
  • Start date Jun 8, 2016
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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed Jun 15, 2016.
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 11, 2022
  • #51,696
Sick Boy said:
It’s highly doubtful that Britain would ever rejoin.
I do expect it to rejoin the Single Market within the next 15 years though.
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Next 5 years I reckon
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 11, 2022
  • #51,697
skybluetony176 said:
So. Does this mean that the NHS isn’t getting its £360M a week?

Brexit cost the UK billions in lost trade and tax revenues, research finds | ITV News

The economy is around 5% smaller than it would have been if the UK had stayed in the EU, the Centre for European Reform has found. | ITV National News
www.itv.com
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Come on Tony grendel has said we’re all willing to forgo billions in investment for an ideology
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 11, 2022
  • #51,698
Sky Blue Pete said:
Come on Tony grendel has said we’re all willing to forgo billions in investment for an ideology
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Well urge labour to put joining the single market in their manifesto
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 12, 2022
  • #51,699
Sky Blue Pete said:
Come on Tony grendel has said we’re all willing to forgo billions in investment for an ideology
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Who's Tony Grendel ?
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 12, 2022
  • #51,700
The fishing industry is finally catching on to the realities of brexit. Too late sadly.

Northumberland seafood firm faced losing £50,000 shipment over Brexit error - BBC News

A £50,000 seafood shipment faced destruction after officials took issue with a "clerical" error.
www.bbc.co.uk

That is unfortunately what happens when you take the word off numerous grifters instead of industry experts such as Robin Turner.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 21, 2022
  • #51,701
clint van damme said:
I think he does understand. He's a pissed soaked racist tramp.
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@Deleted member 9744 this is very offensive to @Alan Dugdales Moustache I can’t recall you condemning this? As you’ve now seen it and I’m sure you would be politically neutral on insults you will now condemn this? There’s about another 50 posts lined up as I’m sure you aren’t a hypocrite that only allows abuse one way?
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 21, 2022
  • #51,702
Grendel said:
@Deleted member 9744 this is very offensive to @Alan Dugdales Moustache I can’t recall you condemning this? As you’ve now seen it and I’m sure you would be politically neutral on insults you will now condemn this? There’s about another 50 posts lined up as I’m sure you aren’t a hypocrite that only allows abuse one way?
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2022
  • #51,703
Another Brexit benefit. Why have 1 standard phone charger when you can have eleventy. No doubt the phone chargers will be happier for it. Scrapping the benefits barrel now.

Hopefully the phone companies won’t see the “benefit” of not standardising for one spec in the corner of Europe so this sensible policy will trickle down.
 

Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 23, 2022
  • #51,704
Really is something else watching this Leave.EU video, practically every word proven to be false/lies.

 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 23, 2022
  • #51,705
Just reading the Rees-Moggs latest brexit bonus is sparkling wine in plastic bottles. Already mocked by the industry as all but a minority of sparkling wines are fermented in the bottle with pressures reaching levels that would tear a plastic bottle to shreds. As someone has eloquently put it he’s a man educated beyond his intelligence.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 23, 2022
  • #51,706
skybluetony176 said:
As someone has eloquently put it he’s a man educated beyond his intelligence.
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That's a great quote.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 23, 2022
  • #51,707
skybluetony176 said:
Just reading the Rees-Moggs latest brexit bonus is sparkling wine in plastic bottles. Already mocked by the industry as all but a minority of sparkling wines are fermented in the bottle with pressures reaching levels that would tear a plastic bottle to shreds. As someone has eloquently put it he’s a man educated beyond his intelligence.
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He's even failed on the patriotic front as it was an Englishman who invented the glass bottles which could withstand the pressure about a century before the French cottoned on. What a moron
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2022
  • #51,708
Rees-Mogg again proving that he’s a man educated above his intelligence



Is this really the best they can come up with. Spending fortunes changing and moving signs in a tunnel to do the same job with zero benefit.
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2022
  • #51,709
skybluetony176 said:
Rees-Mogg again proving that he’s a man educated above his intelligence



Is this really the best they can come up with. Spending fortunes changing and moving signs in a tunnel to do the same job with zero benefit.
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I used to regularly drive through the tunnel andI can honestly say I wasn't aware of those signs,they could have been written in Chinese for all I know.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2022
  • #51,710
I'm so happy we voted to fuck the country for years to come in order to get rid of funny numbers in the Dartford tunnel, have sparkling wine in plastic bottles, and get the crown back on pint glasses. What a totally worthwhile exercise.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2022
  • #51,711
clint van damme said:
I used to regularly drive through the tunnel andI can honestly say I wasn't aware of those signs,they could have been written in Chinese for all I know.
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I hope he never travels abroad. Killed by not understanding funny numbers on signs in a road tunnel meaning he wasn’t able to escape an ensuing fire. His final words were “what does it all mean?”.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2022
  • #51,712
Also, what does funny numbers mean. The whole world adopted arabic numerals about 8 centuries ago. Even someone like him trapped in a Victorian mindset will know what arabic numerals are.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2022
  • #51,713
Also I’m guessing he’s never been to Wales. I’d understand if he said Welsh road signs can be confusing. Bloody EU.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2022
  • #51,714
PVA said:
I'm so happy we voted to fuck the country for years to come in order to get rid of funny numbers in the Dartford tunnel, have sparkling wine in plastic bottles, and get the crown back on pint glasses. What a totally worthwhile exercise.
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Nobody voted for that. The brexit vote and implementation of it are two separate things and conflating them as one isn't helpful, it plays into the silly argument that everything is or isn't down to EU membership.

So, move on from the yes / no and rightly hold the Tories feet to the fire that the promises they made are all broken.
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2022
  • #51,715
fernandopartridge said:
Nobody voted for that. The brexit vote and implementation of it are two separate things and conflating them as one isn't helpful, it plays into the silly argument that everything is or isn't down to EU membership.

So, move on from the yes / no and rightly hold the Tories feet to the fire that the promises they made are all broken.
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The promises they made were all bollocks not broken. They had to be tangible in the first place to be broken. You’re first clue that they wasn’t is the people selling them. The moment the likes of Boris, David Davies, Ian Duncan Smith, Jacob Rees-Mogg, Dominic Raab etc etc started selling brexit alarm bells should have started ringing.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 24, 2022
  • #51,716
Frostie said:
Really is something else watching this Leave.EU video, practically every word proven to be false/lies.

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Hahaha what a fucking joke.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2022
  • #51,717
skybluetony176 said:
The promises they made were all bollocks not broken. They had to be tangible in the first place to be broken. You’re first clue that they wasn’t is the people selling them. The moment the likes of Boris, David Davies, Ian Duncan Smith, Jacob Rees-Mogg, Dominic Raab etc etc started selling brexit alarm bells should have started ringing.
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it is perfectly possible to have seamless trade with the EU without being an EU member, that is what was promised and what has been broken
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2022
  • #51,718
fernandopartridge said:
it is perfectly possible to have seamless trade with the EU without being an EU member, that is what was promised and what has been broken
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It is. But no one was selling that.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2022
  • #51,719
fernandopartridge said:
Nobody voted for that. The brexit vote and implementation of it are two separate things and conflating them as one isn't helpful, it plays into the silly argument that everything is or isn't down to EU membership.

So, move on from the yes / no and rightly hold the Tories feet to the fire that the promises they made are all broken.
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I mean, yes you did. You voted for more trade barriers, which always hurts an economy. You might not have realised it, but you did. There was never a magic Brexit that meant economic growth. It was always a trade off for other things.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2022
  • #51,720
fernandopartridge said:
it is perfectly possible to have seamless trade with the EU without being an EU member, that is what was promised and what has been broken
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How? You want frictionless trade you need common standards. Or did you want to have the rules dictated to us without us having any say? Why?
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 24, 2022
  • #51,721
shmmeee said:
How? You want frictionless trade you need common standards. Or did you want to have the rules dictated to us without us having any say? Why?
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The EEA option would have been the best compromise.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2022
  • #51,722
Sick Boy said:
The EEA option would have been the best compromise.
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It’s still a shit deal. We’ve been holding our finger on the scales when the EU makes decisions on things like finance and tax for ages. And it means FoM and EU law in the U.K., which was supposed to be the whole point of leaving.

It’s where we’ll end up because of political and economic gravity, and everyone will be pissed off. Best case now is we rejoin on a much worse deal.

So fucking stupid and I can’t believe people are still believing in unicorns six years later.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 24, 2022
  • #51,723
shmmeee said:
It’s still a shit deal. We’ve been holding our finger on the scales when the EU makes decisions on things like finance and tax for ages. And it means FoM and EU law in the U.K., which was supposed to be the whole point of leaving.
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...yet it would still be better for the UK than the current deal!
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2022
  • #51,724
shmmeee said:
How? You want frictionless trade you need common standards. Or did you want to have the rules dictated to us without us having any say? Why?
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You agree you could have seamless trade with the EU without being a member. I didn't say it was without downsides but it was the best compromise and the cretins in the remain campaign ignored it.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2022
  • #51,725
fernandopartridge said:
You agree you could have seamless trade with the EU without being a member. I didn't say it was without downsides but it was the best compromise and the cretins in the remain campaign ignored it.
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You talk about living the world as it is now yet on this issue you're not. There was no plausible route to remain after 23/6/16.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2022
  • #51,726
fernandopartridge said:
You agree you could have seamless trade with the EU without being a member. I didn't say it was without downsides but it was the best compromise and the cretins in the remain campaign ignored it.
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In what way is keeping the things we voted against a compromise?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2022
  • #51,727
fernandopartridge said:
You talk about living the world as it is now yet on this issue you're not. There was no plausible route to remain after 23/6/16.
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Of course not. But that’s not when people voted on promises. The issue isn’t implementation is the point. The issue is the result itself.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 24, 2022
  • #51,728
fernandopartridge said:
You talk about living the world as it is now yet on this issue you're not. There was no plausible route to remain after 23/6/16.
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Quoting yourself? This might confirm a long held suspicion of mine about a wind up account
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2022
  • #51,729
shmmeee said:
In what way is keeping the things we voted against a compromise?
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The wording of the vote was purely about leaving the European Union
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2022
  • #51,730
shmmeee said:
In what way is keeping the things we voted against a compromise?
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People voted to leave by the same token. Urge labour to demand another referendum in the next manifesto and see what happens
 
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