The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (20 Viewers)

shmmeee · Dec 24, 2020

CCFCSteve said:
I’ll say it again though Fernando, it depends why you voted and how it plays out. Purely trade, you might be right, was it all worth it. I’ve got to be honest as well, I didn’t expect it all to take 4.5 years, I doubt many/any did !!!

I’m guessing on divergences of key standards there would be the same type of clauses in most free trade agreements ?

Ps deal not done yet either, let’s hope we’ve not all spoken too soon !

Still don’t get how a vote to leave a trading deal can be about anything other than trade. Four years on and still don’t even know why we’re doing this, seems to change with the wind. It was all about immigration, then nothing to do with immigration all about trade, then nothing to do with trade all about “sovereignty”. No doubt once they’ve worked out what they’ve actually agreed to with this deal it’ll all be about whatever win they can find there.

So tired. We’ll be back in within 20 years. This all seems so depressingly pointless.

shmmeee · Dec 24, 2020

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:

We’re all on the same team you lemon.

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Dec 24, 2020

shmmeee said:
We’re all on the same team you lemon.

That's a bit rich.

This thread for the last 4 years has made it feel very much the opposite.

skybluetony176 · Dec 24, 2020

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
That's a bit rich.

This thread for the last 4 years has made it feel very much the opposite.

We’re definitely all on the same team. It’s just you shot all your team mates in the foot.

fernandopartridge · Dec 24, 2020

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:

I voted leave you clown

Ian1779 · Dec 24, 2020

Grendel said:
I doubt that very much. If the reports are accurate this is a fairly significant shift from the deal May proposed.

The devil as always will be in the detail. Let’s see how much it pisses Farage off in the first instance.

Grendel · Dec 24, 2020

Ian1779 said:
The devil as always will be in the detail. Let’s see how much it pisses Farage off in the first instance.

Farage is irrelevant

skybluetony176 · Dec 24, 2020

Ian1779 said:
The devil as always will be in the detail. Let’s see how much it pisses Farage off in the first instance.

Would anybody really be surprised if it is essentially the same deal? Afterall the withdrawal agreement was. Ironically if he and the ERG had have backed May we would already have been out for coming up to two years now. All the postering has done has kept us in longer and exacerbated the issue.

shmmeee · Dec 24, 2020

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
That's a bit rich.

This thread for the last 4 years has made it feel very much the opposite.

Unless you’re planning to move country we are on the same team. My kids will grow up with the same economy and life chances as yours. I happen to think that you’re supporting a strategy which will make us poorer and limit her options in life, the entire reason I care is because we’re on the same team. If you were American I’d give far less of a shit. I think Trumpers are morons too, but in a detached laugh at them kinda way, not in a visceral “stop fucking with my kids future” kinda way.

Ian1779 · Dec 24, 2020

Grendel said:
Farage is irrelevant

Yet so many people hang on his every word...

Grendel · Dec 24, 2020

Ian1779 said:
Yet so many people hang on his every word...

Who does?

shmmeee · Dec 24, 2020

Ian1779 said:
Yet so many people hang on his every word...

I think it’s more that the far right loons over at BBC News hang on his every word TBH.

David O'Day · Dec 24, 2020

Word is it isn't the great victory Boris is set to paint it as. Where the governemnt has tried to get something the EU has said no on and then they have asked for something more reasonable is counted as a victory in their "victory %"

shmmeee · Dec 24, 2020

JP Morgan a fairly neutral source in this (I try and look outside the U.K. Media for Brexit news anyway), doesn’t sound great:

Ian1779 · Dec 24, 2020

Grendel said:
Who does?

His 1.6 million Twitter followers is a start

Grendel · Dec 24, 2020

Ian1779 said:
His 1.6 million Twitter followers is a start

Which is a tiny amount of the uk electorate - and many probably are not anyway

Ian1779 · Dec 24, 2020

Grendel said:
Which is a tiny amount of the uk electorate - and many probably are not anyway

We’ll see how this all plays out.
Both sides will claim victory in the first instance.

Brighton Sky Blue · Dec 24, 2020

Ian1779 said:
We’ll see how this all plays out.
Both sides will claim victory in the first instance.

This is a bit like when Cameron and Osborne went to extract things that would secure the ‘Remain’ victory. Boris will probably say he sneaked a look down Ursula’s top and has a photo he can exchange for a hard Irish border

wingy · Dec 24, 2020

Brighton Sky Blue said:
This is a bit like when Cameron and Osborne went to extract things that would secure the ‘Remain’ victory. Boris will probably say he sneaked a look down Ursula’s top and has a photo he can exchange for a hard Irish border

Boner more like

tisza · Dec 24, 2020

Ian1779 said:
The devil as always will be in the detail. Let’s see how much it pisses Farage off in the first instance.

Farage seems happy enough. Pyrrhic victory springs to mind

clint van damme · Dec 24, 2020

tisza said:
Farage seems happy enough. Pyrrhic victory springs to mind

The war is over he said.
It's not a war Nigel and you've never been involved in one so drop the milatry fetishism you fucking weirdo.

David O'Day · Dec 24, 2020

As I said earlier even a shit deal like this one is better than no deal

David O'Day · Dec 24, 2020

Boris Johnson doesn't half talk some piffle

David O'Day · Dec 24, 2020

"There's some good language about equivalence on financial services... not as much as we would have liked".

FFS

David O'Day · Dec 24, 2020

Ian1779 · Dec 24, 2020

clint van damme said:
The war is over he said.
It's not a war Nigel and you've never been involved in one so drop the milatry fetishism you fucking weirdo.

To be expected from a man who has only ever had success by exploiting peoples deepest fears and prejudices...

David O'Day · Dec 24, 2020

SomersetSB · Dec 24, 2020

David O'Day said:

Get over it,Move on with your life cheer up ffs!!

Liquid Gold · Dec 24, 2020

It doesn't really matte what's in the deal for millions of people. The Union Jack flag shaggers will be loving it no matter what. TheEU flag shaggers will hate it no matter what.

Deleted member 4439 · Dec 24, 2020

Apparently, we forgot to negotiate around seed potatoe farmers in Scotland.

Deleted member 4439 · Dec 24, 2020

David O'Day said:

Alister Campbell and lying have always gone together.

oakey · Dec 24, 2020

This could turn out to be a great day.
Brexit is over. This is the lowest point.
The journey back to sensible governance could begin.
I doubt that the tribalism will go away but now the quitters have to fully own their Brexit. PM BJ must fully be held responsible for what unfolds.
I hope it will turn out well. I fear more lasting damage will be done by this band of zealots who will continue to gaslight the nation.

SomersetSB · Dec 24, 2020

Irish PM ecstatic with it,Arlene Foster too.
A win win for everyone surely?

David O'Day · Dec 24, 2020

It’sabatch87 said:
Get over it,Move on with your life cheer up ffs!!

I've already said a bad deal is better than no deal. Reading not your strong point?

Nick · Dec 24, 2020

oakey said:
This could turn out to be a great day.
Brexit is over. This is the lowest point.
The journey back to sensible governance could begin.
I doubt that the tribalism will go away but now the quitters have to fully own their Brexit. PM BJ must fully be held responsible for what unfolds.
I hope it will turn out well. I fear more lasting damage will be done by this band of zealots who will continue to gaslight the nation.

Oh such a perfect day

Im gonna spend it with youuuuuuuuu

ps. Anybody want in on the group bulldog tat?

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