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The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (7 Viewers)

  • Thread starter jimmyhillsfanclub
  • Start date Jun 8, 2016
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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed Jun 15, 2016.
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 25, 2019
  • #44,696
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Shutting down private schools, shutting down migrant detention centers, deluded green deals regarding carbon
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1. Not party policy

2. Not party policy

3. Not party policy and versions of a Green New Deal are gaining traction across the world.
 
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djr8369

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 25, 2019
  • #44,697
Grendel said:
so you want me to get a poll that shows that the Tories are more trusted on economy and crime and these are higher priority in an election than getting more paternity leave?
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The economy one might be useful as it relates to your original claim below. You didn’t mention crime so that’s not relevant is it?

Grendel said:
people don’t not vote for labour because of an lack of awareness they have such policies but because they know basic needs such as employment stability and economic management will be ruined if they get into power
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 25, 2019
  • #44,698
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The general public is a bit thick-there is no controversy to be had
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there we have it - the private schoolboy knows what’s best for the thick working classes - probably the most bigoted disgusting comment I’ve seen
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 25, 2019
  • #44,699
Grendel said:
so you want me to get a poll that shows that the Tories are more trusted on economy and crime and these are higher priority in an election than getting more paternity leave?
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Tories more trusted on crime having removed 10,000 police since coming to power-right
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 25, 2019
  • #44,700
Grendel said:
there we have it - the private schoolboy knows what’s best for the thick working classes - probably the most bigoted disgusting comment I’ve seen
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The truth hurts.

You do know your idols have been exploiting this fact for decades?
 
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djr8369

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  • Oct 25, 2019
  • #44,701
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Tories more trusted on crime having removed 10,000 police since coming to power-right
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But the public are so street wise how could this happen?


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Grendel

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  • Oct 25, 2019
  • #44,702
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The truth hurts.

You do know your idols have been exploiting this fact for decades?
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So basically you are superior to the working classes who are a bit thick

lol you’ve become Jacob Rees Mogg
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 25, 2019
  • #44,703
Grendel said:
So basically you are superior to the working classes who are a bit thick

lol you’ve become Jacob Rees Mogg
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It’s not only the working classes, it’s the cross section of society. Is this coming from the same G who openly boasts about his wealth?

Charlatans have been exploiting public ignorance since time began
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 25, 2019
  • #44,704
Grendel said:
So basically you are superior to the working classes who are a bit thick

lol you’ve become Jacob Rees Mogg
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You don't have to be working class to be stupid.

Dom is upper middle class.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Oct 25, 2019
  • #44,705
SkyblueBazza said:
I don't, you & others on here seem to argue that they are in some way because they are making an educated & well informed observation on things. You have argued against me saying that experts can be wrong, even with all the gathered data, so I view their conclusions differently to you.
As for the link I provided - that was an example among many articles on Google related to the subject...to demonstrate many people think he was more socialist than credited with.

You just refuse to be swayed on anything unless it comes from one of your luuvvies

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The irony here.

I take each source on its own.

The argument Blair was socialist when the first thing he did was remove Clause 4 then set about privatising health and education as well as stuff like light touch regulation on finance and cosying up to big media on copyright reforms is hilarious.

He was a Social Democrat at best.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 25, 2019
  • #44,706
shmmeee said:
The irony here.

I take each source on its own.

The argument Blair was socialist when the first thing he did was remove Clause 4 then set about privatising health and education as well as stuff like light touch regulation on finance and cosying up to big media on copyright reforms is hilarious.

He was a Social Democrat at best.
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Oh and following Bush and Cheney into an illegal war in the middle of the desert
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 25, 2019
  • #44,707
Deleted member 5849 said:
You don't have to be working class to be stupid.

Dom is upper middle class.
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Haha very funny dickhead, comedian in the making you are
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Oct 25, 2019
  • #44,708
SkyblueBazza said:
But again...this is just you latching onto something that YOU THINK/WISH someone has said so that you can take issue with them because either you have taken issue with something they have said before or they have taken issue with something you have said.

It's a sad obsession.

And I suspect you do not have anything better to do because you seem to spend an awful lot of time doing it.

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not really, the only one doing that on here is you.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 25, 2019
  • #44,709
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Tories more trusted on crime having removed 10,000 police since coming to power-right
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police numbers now are twice the number per capita than 40 years ago and Johnson has pledged even more

the only labour comment on policy in this area is I recall a rather confused interview with Mr Corbyn former lover and Nick Ferrari which did not go well
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 25, 2019
  • #44,710
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Haha very funny dickhead, comedian in the making you are
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LOL remainiac
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 25, 2019
  • #44,711
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It’s not anecdotal polling has been done to survey public perception of key issues compared to the reality. Then we have Osborne admitting the 2010 bullshit and David Cameron’s adviser on TV bragging about him wearing an armband to win support from ‘scum’. More recently you have immigration cited as the biggest factor in people voting Leave despite most immigration being non EU combined with the strongest correlation being level of education.

The general public is a bit thick-there is no controversy to be had
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Same applies to those who voted remain. Let's keep things the same because it's too much hard work to think about it.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 25, 2019
  • #44,712
Grendel said:
police numbers now are twice the number per capita than 40 years ago and Johnson has pledged even more

the only labour comment on policy in this area is I recall a rather confused interview with Mr Corbyn former lover and Nick Ferrari which did not go well
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Obfuscation-police numbers have dropped by 10,000 since they took office and all Johnson is doing is proposing to restore the losses while not even outlining how they will be recruited.

It’s like nicking someone’s car then giving it back a decade later
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 25, 2019
  • #44,713
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Same applies to those who voted remain. Let's keep things the same because it's too much hard work to think about it.
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‘You voted remain because you think the EU’s perfect’

Hmmm
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 25, 2019
  • #44,714
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Corbyn would collapse the economy with all that borrowing he plans:smuggrin:
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Project Fear

In all seriousness if you care about the public debt you should be focused on kicking the Tories out ASAP. As always they’ve ballooned the public debt and we need a Keynesian government to get it back down.

But if you cared about the public debt you wouldn’t be pushing for Brexit which will cost trillions and deliver precisely nothing in return.

Edit: some facts. These are from 2016 and the last three years have been worse so would look even worse for Tories.

 

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shmmeee

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  • Oct 25, 2019
  • #44,715
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Same applies to those who voted remain. Let's keep things the same because it's too much hard work to think about it.
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No. Literally anyone who has thought about it and not got distracted by WW2 memes knows Remain is best for the country. Even if they don’t think the EU is all that great.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 25, 2019
  • #44,716
SkyBlueDom26 said:
But if he didn't want an election the remoaners would be doing everything possible to delay brexit even more so its a non starter my friend
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His deal has just passed a vote so I’m not sure how you work that out. Truth is if he’d been trying to get a deal from the moment he got in office not only would he have not been heckled in a Manchester street asking him why is he here when he should be in Brussels, we would easily have been a couple of weeks further ahead than we are now, at least. If he hadn’t gone through the farce of proroguing parliament we’d probably be another week ahead of where we are now on top of that. If he’d been successful in getting Parliament prorogued we wouldn’t even be where we are now. At some point you’re going to have to accept that no one has done more to delay Brexit than Boris. That’s before you even get into him delivering a deal he’d previously stood on the stage at a DUP conference and stated that no PM should not and will not deliver the Brexit deal that he is now trying to deliver, that’s a deliberate 2 year delay on his own deal, then you’ve got the times he voted against May’s deal. Delay delay delay.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 25, 2019
  • #44,717
skybluetony176 said:
His deal has just passed a vote so I’m not sure how you work that out. Truth is if he’d been trying to get a deal from the moment he got in office not only would he have not been heckled in a Manchester street asking him why is he here when he should be in Brussels, we would easily have been a couple of weeks further ahead than we are now, at least. If he hadn’t gone through the farce of proroguing parliament we’d probably be another week ahead of where we are now on top of that. If he’d been successful in getting Parliament prorogued we wouldn’t even be where we are now. At some point you’re going to have to accept that no one has done more to delay Brexit than Boris. That’s before you even get into him delivering a deal he’d previously stood on the stage at a DUP conference and stated that no PM should not and will not deliver the Brexit deal that he is now trying to deliver, that’s a deliberate 2 year delay on his own deal, then you’ve got the times he voted against May’s deal. Delay delay delay.
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Almost as though the fat turd is more focussed on personal ambition than national interest
 

shmmeee

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  • Oct 25, 2019
  • #44,718
skybluetony176 said:
His deal has just passed a vote so I’m not sure how you work that out. Truth is if he’d been trying to get a deal from the moment he got in office not only would he have not been heckled in a Manchester street asking him why is he here when he should be in Brussels, we would easily have been a couple of weeks further ahead than we are now, at least. If he hadn’t gone through the farce of proroguing parliament we’d probably be another week ahead of where we are now on top of that. If he’d been successful in getting Parliament prorogued we wouldn’t even be where we are now. At some point you’re going to have to accept that no one has done more to delay Brexit than Boris. That’s before you even get into him delivering a deal he’d previously stood on the stage at a DUP conference and stated that no PM should not and will not deliver the Brexit deal that he is now trying to deliver, that’s a deliberate 2 year delay on his own deal, then you’ve got the times he voted against May’s deal. Delay delay delay.
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But the papers told me it was the Remainers in Parliament!
 

skybluetony176

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  • Oct 25, 2019
  • #44,719
SkyBlueDom26 said:
People won't vote for labour mainly because of communist Corbyn
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You must be referring to stupid people who don’t realise that he’s a socialist not a communist.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 25, 2019
  • #44,720
Just listening to Boris on R4.

“we will [get this deal done] if Labour agree to an election on Dec 12th”

On what planet is that anyone but his fault for delaying Brexit?
 
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  • Oct 25, 2019
  • #44,721
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Haha very funny dickhead, comedian in the making you are
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Breckshit bantsssss lmao
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 25, 2019
  • #44,722
shmmeee said:
No. Literally anyone who has thought about it and not got distracted by WW2 memes knows Remain is best for the country. Even if they don’t think the EU is all that great.
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Odd given that the Labour Party and the Green Party have previously voted to leave the EU and even the leader of the undems campaigned against it in 2007

facts eh?
 

RegTheDonk

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  • Oct 25, 2019
  • #44,723
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Tories more trusted on crime having removed 10,000 police since coming to power-right
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TBF, when budgets were cut It was up to the old bill where they made those savings. It was easier under police regs and contracts to make the older coppers retire when they'd got their 30 years service in and simply no replace them. There were still loads doing investigations and back office work that a civvy could fulfill. What the should have done was make those who carried a warrant card and weren't on restricted duties get back on the front line.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Oct 25, 2019
  • #44,724
shmmeee said:
No. Literally anyone who has thought about it and not got distracted by WW2 memes knows Remain is best for the country. Even if they don’t think the EU is all that great.
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Sorry but what is/are ww2 memes ?
Over 17 million weren't distracted by whatever memes are and I'm guessing they are those who were born around 1935 or earlier in order to remember Ww2 which puts a lot of them dead at the time of the referendum . So that would mean the overwhelming majority who voted leave would have been born post 1945. I may be thick but I'd guess they have no memory of WW2.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Oct 25, 2019
  • #44,725
shmmeee said:
Just listening to Boris on R4.

“we will [get this deal done] if Labour agree to an election on Dec 12th”

On what planet is that anyone but his fault for delaying Brexit?
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Its parliaments, don't you remember when they voted against getting it through in Boris's timetable
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Oct 25, 2019
  • #44,726
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Sanders beats him in virtually all polling
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It may be another case of winning the popular vote but not the electoral college. Especially with the further gerrymandering and ID needed to combat (almost non-existent) voter fraud (which mainly occurs on the Rep side by people fooled by the right-wing rhetoric and do it to 'even it out'.

Bernie is quite hard left for America, especially in 'red' states whereas over here he's thought of as quite reasonable left wing.

Peronally I'd have loved to see Michelle Obama go for it. To see Trump not just beaten by an Obama, but someone black AND a woman. Sweet! Plus she's very good at public speaking and she's wipe the floor with Trump. It'd be fun just to see him have a meltdown live on TV in a debate.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Oct 25, 2019
  • #44,727
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Its parliaments, don't you remember when they voted against getting it through in Boris's timetable
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If parliament had not been called back from being prorogued that timetable wouldn't have been feasible anyway.

Why do you want probably the most important piece of legislation in a generation to be rushed through quicker than say a piece of legislation stating the minimum required width of a doorway?

Alexander has threatened to withdraw the Brexit bill, not parliament.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Oct 25, 2019
  • #44,728
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Sorry but what is/are ww2 memes ?
Over 17 million weren't distracted by whatever memes are and I'm guessing they are those who were born around 1935 or earlier in order to remember Ww2 which puts a lot of them dead at the time of the referendum . So that would mean the overwhelming majority who voted leave would have been born post 1945. I may be thick but I'd guess they have no memory of WW2.
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Yes they were boomers, the war generation are mostly Remain.

And this shit has been all over my FB wall for years, you must’ve been blind to miss it.

 

shmmeee

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  • Oct 25, 2019
  • #44,729
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Its parliaments, don't you remember when they voted against getting it through in Boris's timetable
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Boris’ made up, random timetable you mean?

I thought you wanted Brexit done, not Boris obeyed. Make your mind up.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Oct 25, 2019
  • #44,730
shmmeee said:
Boris’ made up, random timetable you mean?

I thought you wanted Brexit done, not Boris obeyed. Make your mind up.
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He's tried to get it done idiot!!! Its the people you support who are making it impossible to get through because of bullshit laws and acts
 
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