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The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (16 Viewers)

  • Thread starter jimmyhillsfanclub
  • Start date Jun 8, 2016
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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed Jun 15, 2016.
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Oct 16, 2019
  • #43,646
Sick Boy said:
Wow even Salvini has abandoned his anti Euro stance - wasn’t Italy one of the dominos along with Holland and France?
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Error...yes & he is an Italian - not Italy.

Plus from what I have seen he hasn't exactly embraced the Euro, just resigned himself to it!

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SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 16, 2019
  • #43,647
shmmeee said:
I take it all back about Boris. Truly the wankers PM

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Suprised you aren't his biggest fan!

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SkyblueBazza

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  • Oct 16, 2019
  • #43,648
skybluetony176 said:
A New IRA spokesperson on C4 news saying any installation to do with border controls and anybody operating them either at the border or away from the border will be a legitimate target.
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Imagine the uproar if Trump said something along those lines

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SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 16, 2019
  • #43,649
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Because there are too many of those that are looking to take control post Brexit with a vested interest not to. Look already at the subsidies for green energy that have been removed yet resources increased into fracking, nuclear and oil.
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Are you talking LDs or Labour or SNP here?

Bojo has been criticised heavily for trying to make political gain...isn't this ultimately the same thing?

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SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 16, 2019
  • #43,650
skybluetony176 said:
Thank god the DUP don’t have terrorist links then. Oh, wait...
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So you are only really worried about one side of the terrorist link?

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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 17, 2019
  • #43,651
skybluetony176 said:
Thank god the DUP don’t have terrorist links then. Oh, wait...
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they met with members of the UVF this week to discuss Boris's deal.

DUP 'held series of meetings with loyalists' to discuss EU exit specifics - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Oct 17, 2019
  • #43,652
SkyblueBazza said:
Error...yes & he is an Italian - not Italy.

Plus from what I have seen he hasn't exactly embraced the Euro, just resigned himself to it!

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...hence why I said he had dropped his anti Euro stance, he described it as a vote loser.
 

Sick Boy

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  • Oct 17, 2019
  • #43,653
SkyblueBazza said:
Imagine the uproar if Trump said something along those lines

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WTF...
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Oct 17, 2019
  • #43,654
SkyblueBazza said:
Imagine the uproar if Trump said something along those lines

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Why would Trump propose committing terrorist attacks on customs installations?
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Oct 17, 2019
  • #43,655
SkyblueBazza said:
So you are only really worried about one side of the terrorist link?

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Many of my family will be on the front line fighting terrorism as they have been all the way through the troubles. I’m bothered about terrorism full stop. Stop trying to make a point that isn’t there just so you can point score.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Oct 17, 2019
  • #43,656
Aww. It’s not easy being world king is it Boris

DUP rejects Brexit deal 'as things stand'
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 17, 2019
  • #43,657
shmmeee said:
This is hilarious, the legislation referred to that might make the WA illegal was Moggs idea apparently.



For the record, I think this is a bit of a dick move (to use a technicality to stop Brexit), but I can also see the “well they started it” argument when it comes to win at all costs. I wouldn’t have done it though, I think it’ll leave a particularly nasty taste if successful.
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TBF, I see what you're saying but the government can't break the law.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 17, 2019
  • #43,658
skybluetony176 said:
Aww. It’s not easy being world king is it Boris

DUP rejects Brexit deal 'as things stand'
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as things stand? I think that magic money tree will be getting another shake.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 17, 2019
  • #43,659
clint van damme said:
as things stand? I think that magic money tree will be getting another shake.
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May has already been down this path and Boris is clearly doing the same things expecting different results. Apparently the UUP has come out and said that Northern Ireland would be better of remaining in the EU today also.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 17, 2019
  • #43,660
fernandopartridge said:
TBF, I see what you're saying but the government can't break the law.
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I imagine they’ll just repeal it or something, doubt anything will come of it. But yeah they should. I just worry about anything that comes across as dirty tricks to stop Brexit. Needs to be a referendum really, politically no one will gain from it long term otherwise. Even a referendum will piss off a lot, but not having one will piss off just as many of not more.
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 17, 2019
  • #43,661

Fair play Boris!! Time for parliament to actually do what the MAJORITY voted for now and get it through and stop pissing around because people can't accept a result
 

shmmeee

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  • Oct 17, 2019
  • #43,662
clint van damme said:
as things stand? I think that magic money tree will be getting another shake.
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Havent they already done this? Some kind of “peace fund” for NI funded by the EU and the UK is part of the deal I think.
 

shmmeee

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  • Oct 17, 2019
  • #43,663
SkyBlueDom26 said:

Fair play Boris!! Time for parliament to actually do what the MAJORITY voted for now and get it through
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I dunno, this leading Brexiter isn’t a fan of the deal


In all seriousness, as I said before, if he gets it through fair play. It’s a terrible deal that will make us all poorer, but I didn’t see anyone getting the DUP to agree to separate NI.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Oct 17, 2019
  • #43,664
shmmeee said:
I dunno, this leading Brexiter isn’t a fan of the deal


In all seriousness, as I said before, if he gets it through fair play. It’s a terrible deal that will make us all poorer, but I didn’t see anyone getting the DUP to agree to separate NI.
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Project fear, things will be rough at the start but they will pick up! Deal is much better than no deal
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 17, 2019
  • #43,665
shmmeee said:
I dunno, this leading Brexiter isn’t a fan of the deal


In all seriousness, as I said before, if he gets it through fair play. It’s a terrible deal that will make us all poorer, but I didn’t see anyone getting the DUP to agree to separate NI.
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2006 Boris would be furious with the pair of them
 
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clint van damme

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  • Oct 17, 2019
  • #43,666
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Project fear, things will be rough at the start but they will pick up! Deal is much better than no deal
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can you explain how they will pick up and give us the timescale?
Just to guide you, leave won get over it, and leave means leave, are not explanations.

Tell me the economic reasons to embrace Brexit.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 17, 2019
  • #43,667
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Project fear, things will be rough at the start but they will pick up! Deal is much better than no deal
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Two facts:

1) this deal is no deal in all but name. Economically it’s pretty much the worst it could be with a deal.

2) Lost growth is lost forever. That’s how compound interest works. If you lose 5% now in thirty years it’s equivalent to a lot more even if you return to previous levels.

Be clear that what you’re asking for will make us all poorer and reduce public services. You believe that’s a fair trade off for, something (still not genuinely sure what, happy to be informed).
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Oct 17, 2019
  • #43,668
Will be interesting to see if he can get the DUP on side
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 17, 2019
  • #43,669
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Project fear, things will be rough at the start but they will pick up! Deal is much better than no deal
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That's easy for a rich politician or one of his useful idiots to say, not easy to somebody losing their livelihood. Let him get his deal through and forget about a General Election and we'll see what people think in 2022.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Oct 17, 2019
  • #43,670
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Will be interesting to see if he can get the DUP on side
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It’ll also be interesting to see whether Brexiteers are all for it now it’s been negotiated by a posh boy.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Oct 17, 2019
  • #43,671
fernandopartridge said:
That's easy for a rich politician or one of his useful idiots to say, not easy to somebody losing their livelihood. Let him get his deal through and forget about a General Election and we'll see what people think in 2022.
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This version of a deal is all about protecting businesses and will do absolutely nothing for the average person.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Oct 17, 2019
  • #43,672

Finally a PM with a backbone, time to get brexit done and move on its been going on for far to long now
 
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djr8369

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  • Oct 17, 2019
  • #43,673
SkyBlueDom26 said:

Finally a PM with a backbone, time to get brexit done and move on its been going on for far to long now
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This is the end of phase one. Strap yourself in.


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skybluetony176

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  • Oct 17, 2019
  • #43,674
DUP has reiterated their previous statement that they can’t support the deal as it stands since Boris has announced that a deal is done.
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 17, 2019
  • #43,675
djr8369 said:
This is the end of phase one. Strap yourself in.


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They won't approve an extension...... its either deal or no deal
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Oct 17, 2019
  • #43,676
skybluetony176 said:
DUP has reiterated their previous statement that they can’t support the deal as it stands since Boris has announced that a deal is done.
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He'll get them on side some how
 
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djr8369

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  • Oct 17, 2019
  • #43,677
SkyBlueDom26 said:
They won't approve an extension...... its either deal or no deal
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Either the way, it’s still just the end of part 1.


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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Oct 17, 2019
  • #43,678
djr8369 said:
Either the way, it’s still just the end of part 1.


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Saturday is going to be huge
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 17, 2019
  • #43,679
SkyBlueDom26 said:
He'll get them on side some how
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If you say so.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 17, 2019
  • #43,680
clint van damme said:
as things stand? I think that magic money tree will be getting another shake.
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Brexit in exchange for a SInn Fein dominated representation, possibly.

SkyBlueDom26 said:

Finally a PM with a backbone, time to get brexit done and move on its been going on for far to long now
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Revoking Article 50 it is, then.
 
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