Nick
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The other thing is that clause with Sport England / Rugby Council...
It is indeed worrying what it could mean for the club. One possibility though is that it puts any potential bidder in the driving seat meaning a takeover has just become more likely. Might not necessarily be a bad thing for CCFC if SISU are in the shit but I think it's right to be cautious about what it would mean. Let's face it. None of us really know for sure either way. We'll only really know if and when things unravel publicly.
The thing it rests on then is that clause with sport england and rugby council isn't it?
When I wert lad we used to dream of living in a toiletStreetmapped it but cant see the numbers. Sadly the toilet room is probably worth a million knowing the silliness down there
Your first point is true but not incompatible with Grendel's point
I seem to remember Ranson stating publicly that he had no interest in buying into the Ricoh and wasn't that why CCC favoured SISU and Ranson in the first place.
Anyway, what does it matter now. The lesson from this OP surely is that SISU are vulnerable to direct action and we should not, and need not, get at them through CCFC as that only damages the football club.
My point is that long after Ranson went they were publicly invited to make a serious offer for ACL. They didn't. I've suggested for a while that that was because they couldn't raise the finances and the OP if true backs that up. Grendull is trying to distract from that by suggesting that it's because it was a strategy set by some long gone former director. If we were still operating under Ransons strategy SISU would still be investing money in an attempt to reach the gold at the end of the premier league rainbow and I think we all know that isn't the case. Even grendull.
So if they have 44,336,534 shares, and they are priced here - http://quotes.wsj.com/PL/XWAR/NET
Am I being naive in just multiplying 44,336,534 * 5.10 PLN , then divide by 5 for the exchange rate which gives £45,223,264.68?
Obviously dont know what they paid to know whether its a loss, but if it is the case I wouldn't mind £45m.
No , there isn't enough of them .
However would be nice to not argue day in and day out for a change eh
Not going to argue here but, If we were getting 20-22k average gates on SISU arrival and now getting 7-8k gates, doesn't that mean there are about14-15k fans not paying to watch games at the Ricoh, and if that is right are they not NOPM?
Saw the name Walter Bosco on here a few days ago; noticed when I Googled Izurium that his name popped up....Sisu additionally lost their star players to another investment fund called Izurium Capital.
Ransons personal strategy had fuck all to do with anything but ranson.
The club were never allowed to bid and the only reason the council ever wanted to sell their share was because we weren't funding their business game anymore.
Not really. I would say NOPM is people who specifically decide not to go to simply starve SISU out. Rather than Big Dave who has taken up golf instead or people like Hill who have had a baby and spend their days with them.
Can't blame Hill for that. I think I went to one game in five years when I first became a dad. Also sold my beloved motorbike for the same reason. Family comes first.
I've just had a look on Google maps. 96 is at the left hand end of the block (looking from the road) next to an alleyway. It looks fairly swish but is quite small and is possibly shared by several companies.Sole Trader is at 96A, Ryman at 96, so I guess it is somewhere in the offices above the shops, either that or they have been given a stock room by Theo Paphitis.
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I wouldn't either.
That's what I mean, it isn't the same as NOPM with things like that. NOPM to me would be specifically not going with that reason.
Not going to argue here but, If we were getting 20-22k average gates on SISU arrival and now getting 7-8k gates, doesn't that mean there are about14-15k fans not paying to watch games at the Ricoh, and if that is right are they not NOPM?
So because Big Dave has decided to play golf and not pay to watch CCFC it's ok? but because I hate what SISU are and stand for isn't? The endgame is the same. No money going to SISU.
I guess we'll only really know the answer to that once things have settled down if and when SISU go. I'd certainly expect a new owner bounce but it all depends on how sustained that bounce is.
I guess we'll only really know the answer to that once things have settled down if and when SISU go. I'd certainly expect a new owner bounce but it all depends on how sustained that bounce is.
Seems Sisu are taking Netia to court as we speak...lol
http://www.rp.pl/Telekomunikacja-i-IT/308319858-Fundusz-kontra-biznesmen.html#ap-2
I think you are missing what I was saying, it is the reason for not going. If you aren't going specifically because you don't want to give the club money then it is NOPM isn't it?
Otherwise, if I get called into work urgently and have to miss a home game for example does that mean I am NOPM?
Make your mind up. We never bid because it was Ransons strategy and now Ransons "personal" strategy has nothing to do with it. There's that grendull duality again.
If the club were never allowed to bid there's only one person who can dictate that and that's Seppala. The reasons behind why they weren't allowed to bid? Quite possible my suggestion that they didn't have the backers is bang on the money. Certainly if I didn't have the money to bid for something I wouldn't bid for it. What would be the point.
We had 17,000 at a game last season.
As someone else says it's irrelevant so I won't bite other than point out the suggestion from a source that wasps were indeed lined up as buyers 4 years ago.
Google Translate (in all its dodgy wisdom) says that Sisu are bitching about three resolutions passed at the company's AGM earlier this year.Any chance of a translation? I don't understand a word of that and don't have a translator on my phone
So that 14-15k fans are getting called into work on a Saturday urgently(Strange day for the majority of workers to work)
As someone else says it's irrelevant so I won't bite other than point out the suggestion from a source that wasps were indeed lined up as buyers 4 years ago.
No, I am saying they all aren't not going for the sole reason of starving the club of money. I am sure there are hundreds of different reasons that people don't go.
Google Translate (in all its dodgy wisdom) says that Sisu are bitching about three resolutions passed at the company's AGM earlier this year.
My favourite line is someone saying, "we have a well prepared legal service and assure that the accusations of Sisu have no basis"
That still doesn't stop SISU making a bid though does it? No money to make a bid does though.
HP or Daddies?
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