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The Balance / When Will You Be Concerned.... (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Jul 21, 2016
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Nick

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  • Jul 21, 2016
  • #36
Sky Blue Kid said:
Coz we'd have lost out to other clubs otherwise.
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Which disproves the theory of not wanting to pay players until the last minute the one about players going to other clubs over us and the one about us getting players nobody else wants

(I know you didn't say them, before you think that!!)
 

Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 21, 2016
  • #37
Nick said:
Which disproves the theory of not wanting to pay players until the last minute the one about players going to other clubs over us and the one about us getting players nobody else wants

(I know you didn't say them, before you think that!!)
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I never said a word!
 
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Chipfat

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 21, 2016
  • #38
I think its no secret that TM missed out on a few signings early which may have put him behind a little. But he is in a tight spot with regards to the budget and not many clubs will want to lose players so close to the start of a season, so he will have to look to the loan market and use the kids to fill the gaps. Still time to go, but we do need more experienced players in the door and i don't mean over 30's.

So with this i don't expect anything other than free agents and a few loans coming our way before we kick off, and to be honest im not concerned its a long season and we need to get stronger during the season than start and fade.
 
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Ashdown

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 21, 2016
  • #39
Just for one year, wouldn't it be nice to get the bulk of your first team in and training together and playing the friendlies and building up a spirit so that we are ready for the off. I think Mowbray did very well with Armstrong and Murphy last year and they paid off, but can he pull another rabbit out of the hat again to get off to such a positive start ??
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 21, 2016
  • #40
On the defence side Mowbray has partially created the problem himself. I'm sure Martin would have re signed for the club.
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Jul 21, 2016
  • #41
I feel letting Martin go was a big mistake.
 
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Chipfat

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 21, 2016
  • #42
I didn't get the Martin situation the only thing i can think of is that TM was very confident of getting a replacement of the type he wanted when letting Martin go. This is still the case or TM missed out on that target and Martin moved on.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 21, 2016
  • #43
Grendel said:
On the defence side Mowbray has partially created the problem himself. I'm sure Martin would have re signed for the club.
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Absolutely.

I think I'd be feeling about 15% better if we had him onboard, which probably tells you how many players I think we still need to bring in.
 

AFCCOVENTRY

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 21, 2016
  • #44
Current team would be:

RCC
Willis Ricketts Stokes Haynes
Gadzhev McCann Vincelot
Jones
Tudgay Sordell
 

Orca

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 21, 2016
  • #45
AFCCOVENTRY said:
I feel letting Martin go was a big mistake.
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For me, our most improved player last season and our dip in form coincided with his injury. I'd have kept him, but if TM had a plan he needs to start executing it pretty quickly.


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Gint11

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 21, 2016
  • #46
If have kept him too. Thought he was decent enough at this level.


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Hobo

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 21, 2016
  • #47
Even if we were looking for a new centre half, I thought he was worth keeping as a squad player and keeping a bit of continuity.
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 21, 2016
  • #48
Otis said:
Well, you need to look at that list of outgoing players and see who we will really miss. (You missed Fleck off by the way. )


Johnson? We didn't even have him for 80% of the season and you could just about ditto that for Conor Thomas too.

Will we miss Lorentzson? No. Ramage, Hunt, Henderson? Definitely not.

Cole? Again I would say no. He flattered to deceive for the most part. Philips was frozen out for long periods anyway and Maddison missed most of the season.

Looking at the squad as it stands now, I would say we are only missing Aaron Martin and Adam Armstrong. Murphy was very inconsistent and we didn't really have Stephens for that long anyway.

I am not too unduly worried and there will still be loans to come.
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Agree with all this except Murphy. We will miss a winger who scores in the double digits
 

Brylowes

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 22, 2016
  • #49
Nick said:
McCann can't sign due to his parent club.

Why did we get Jones right at the very start?
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I think it was so you could bring his name up every time there's a discussion
about the lack of signings/ investment .
 

Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 22, 2016
  • #50
Please note on 7th Jul, TM wanted 6 players, Thomas & Sordell joined on 4th July.
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sp...coventry-city-transfers-tony-mowbray-11575583

Since then new signings have been.... McCann (and he hasn't actually signed yet).

Resigned Tudgay & Ricketts.
 

Hobo

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 22, 2016
  • #51
covcity4life said:
Agree with all this except Murphy. We will miss a winger who scores in the double digits
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We need a winger but a consistent one.
 
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Brylowes

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  • Jul 22, 2016
  • #52
Hobo said:
We need a winger but a consistent one.
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Wingers by nature, are usually inconsistent.
 

ccfcway

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  • Jul 22, 2016
  • #53
AFCCOVENTRY said:
Current team would be:

RCC
Willis Ricketts Stokes Haynes
Gadzhev McCann Vincelot
Jones
Tudgay Sordell
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Stokes and McCann suspended

RCC
K-Evans Willis Ricketts Haynes
Gadzhev Vincelot Rose
Jones Lameris
Sordell

Tudgay, Burge, K Thomas and kids on the bench
 

Hobo

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  • Jul 22, 2016
  • #54
Brylowes said:
Wingers by nature, are usually inconsistent.
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Brylowes said:
Wingers by nature, are usually inconsistent.
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That is like saying players from Europe are no good in winter.
Are you saying Tommy Hutchison, Ray Graydon, Dave Bennett, Dennis Teaurt, Ryan Giggs, John Robertson, Jimmy Johnstone and I could go on and on were more inconsistent than their team mates....bollocks
 

Brylowes

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 22, 2016
  • #55
Hobo said:
That is like saying players from Europe are no good in winter.
Are you saying Tommy Hutchison, Ray Graydon, Dave Bennett, Dennis Teaurt, Ryan Giggs, John Robertson, Jimmy Johnstone and I could go on and on were more inconsistent than their team mates....bollocks
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So good you named it twice.
Of course there are fantastic consistent wingers,
 

ccfctommy

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 22, 2016
  • #56
ccfcway said:
Stokes and McCann suspended

RCC
K-Evans Willis Ricketts Haynes
Gadzhev Vincelot Rose
Jones Lameris
Sordell

Tudgay, Burge, K Thomas and kids on the bench
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See I think Harries will start at CB.
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 22, 2016
  • #57
and willis at RB ?
 

WONDERLAMPS

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 22, 2016
  • #58
Charles-Cook

Ricketts Willis New CB Haynes

Vincelot Rose

Jones Gadzhev/New CAM Lameiras

Sordell
 
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Skybluenutterman

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 22, 2016
  • #59
Thread bare team with so many holes in it. I have faith in TM but please get your bloody finger out



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johnwillomagic

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 22, 2016
  • #60
Surprised tudguy not in some peoples first xi? Have we not learnt that cost us last season? Besides he's done more pre season than sordell to date too?

I do not think that start xi is too bad. Helluva lot of doom mongers here! Best thing to do look at swindons squad as it stands to remain consistent look at their current strongest start xi and compare to ours currently... Imo we look better as things stand!
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 22, 2016
  • #61
FRY-CCFC said:
Charles-Cook

Ricketts Willis New CB Haynes

Vincelot Rose

Jones Gadzhev/New CAM Lameiras

Sordell
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No McCann?
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 22, 2016
  • #62
johnwillomagic said:
Surprised tudguy not in some peoples first xi? Have we not learnt that cost us last season? Besides he's done more pre season than sordell to date too?

I do not think that start xi is too bad. Helluva lot of doom mongers here! Best thing to do look at swindons squad as it stands to remain consistent look at their current strongest start xi and compare to ours currently... Imo we look better as things stand!
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tudgay is the new martin! i can see it now

legend, best player ever lmao
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 22, 2016
  • #63
gk:rcc,burge - ok
left back\wing back:haynes,stokes - ok but haynes must improve
right back:ricketts,willis,spence - could do with a specialist here
centreback:ricketts,willis,harries,stokes - 2 cbs needed urgently
centre midfield:vincelot,gadzhev,rose-1 more CM needed for depth and o be able to push gadzhev forwards when required
attacking mid/winger:lameries,jones,g thomas- 1 with pace needed at least
strikers:sordell,tudgay,thomas - 1 more striker required urgently

by my calculations we need 6 new players. mcann is 1. SO 5 NEEDED
 

Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 22, 2016
  • #64
Otis said:
No McCann?
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He's not signed yet Otis
 

ajsccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 22, 2016
  • #65
I forgot about Stokes in the middle. I'd be quite happy to get another leftback and have Stokes move central as a permanent thing.
 

WONDERLAMPS

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 22, 2016
  • #66
Otis said:
No McCann?
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Talking first game. McCann and Stokes in for Rose and Haynes when all available
 

CovisGod

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 22, 2016
  • #67
To answer my own question in the OP, Now, now I'm concerned. First we had a load of targets, then we had a few targets but lost a few, now there's a couple of irons in the fire and we may have to offload players from already depleted squad to get in others,

I can honestly see us missing out on a good few were after, not replacing anywhere near enough bodies, even if they were bit part players. If we got burnt out by Christmas last year how on earth are we going to cope with a much smaller squad ?

So the talk will be "we've still got a month to sign players when the season starts", then "but the loan window is open soon", then "we'll do some business in January" and we'll have another disappointing season at the lower end of league one.

I'm actually really quite pissed off
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 22, 2016
  • #68
Did you actually read what Mowbray said or just go with the alarmist CT conclusions? What he actually said is there's two players in training now who are likely to be singing shortly and he's looking to bring another five or six in but might, if those players are expensive, have to let one or two go.
 
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skyblueelephant76

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 22, 2016
  • #69
CovisGod said:
To answer my own question in the OP, Now, now I'm concerned. First we had a load of targets, then we had a few targets but lost a few, now there's a couple of irons in the fire and we may have to offload players from already depleted squad to get in others,

I can honestly see us missing out on a good few were after, not replacing anywhere near enough bodies, even if they were bit part players. If we got burnt out by Christmas last year how on earth are we going to cope with a much smaller squad ?

So the talk will be "we've still got a month to sign players when the season starts", then "but the loan window is open soon", then "we'll do some business in January" and we'll have another disappointing season at the lower end of league one.

I'm actually really quite pissed off
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There is no loan window, everything has to be done by the end of August so there won't be any talk of that...
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 22, 2016
  • #70
chiefdave said:
Did you actually read what Mowbray said or just go with the alarmist CT conclusions? What he actually said is there's two players in training now who are likely to be singing shortly and he's looking to bring another five or six in but might, if those players are expensive, have to let one or two go.
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That's the thing isn't it. It makes perfect sense unless you just go by the headline.
 
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