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Ricketts

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  • May 4, 2023
  • #36
I am trying to renew our two as Premier League but there doesn't appear to be a way to do it.

There is a membership and packages tab, which show my tickets but I cannot click on them or anything.

There is no mention of Premier League package.

The season ticket page just shows unallocated seats. I could buy the single one next to mine as a Premier League package but I need two.
 
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Hercules

Well-Known Member
  • May 4, 2023
  • #37
Mine was waiting as a notification in my online ticketing account
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • May 4, 2023
  • #38
rob9872 said:
Still on sale, so I'll stick my neck out and say less than 5,000. Hope this helps
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Thanks @rob9872 - can always rely on you for the facts
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • May 4, 2023
  • #39
Personally, my initial thought to this deal was that it’s a bit of a gamble to be honest. It’s not really any different to a ‘bond’ and if we get promoted the free ST is the interest.

I get it, we need more revenue to compete in the transfer market and this is a way to do that but there’s no telling how effective that’ll be.

I think it’s a shame there’s no bands for the Prem membership because for people with juniors, it’s v expensive. For many parents, it’s probably sensible hedging your bets on not paying the £500 on the basis that either the junior(s) will be 18 (presumably paying for themselves) or will still be U18 if we got promoted before the 5 year plan.

I’ll only consider the Prem package if my brother chooses to not get a ST because then I won’t be able to take advantage of the family stand deal. Which represents amazing value and my old ST was in block 28.
 

joemercersaces

Well-Known Member
  • May 4, 2023
  • #40
I’m glass half full. Last year turned 60 and was branded a ‘senior citizen’ which I didn’t much care for. However the reduced price helped me get over the calumny. This year they announce that I’m no longer a coffin dodger but charge me £400!
 
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MalcSB

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  • May 4, 2023
  • #41
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Personally, my initial thought to this deal was that it’s a bit of a gamble to be honest. It’s not really any different to a ‘bond’ and if we get promoted the free ST is the interest.

I get it, we need more revenue to compete in the transfer market and this is a way to do that but there’s no telling how effective that’ll be.

I think it’s a shame there’s no bands for the Prem membership because for people with juniors, it’s v expensive. For many parents, it’s probably sensible hedging your bets on not paying the £500 on the basis that either the junior(s) will be 18 (presumably paying for themselves) or will still be U18 if we got promoted before the 5 year plan.

I’ll only consider the Prem package if my brother chooses to not get a ST because then I won’t be able to take advantage of the family stand deal. Which represents amazing value and my old ST was in block 28.
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It’s completely different to a bond.
 

Robinshio

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  • May 4, 2023
  • #42
if you are premium zone you will save over 5 years (even without promotion) barring relegation - so it really is a no brainer
if you are standard zone, without promotion will probably cost you maybe £200 over the 5 years after inflation - not really worth it at that point
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • May 4, 2023
  • #43
MalcSB said:
It’s completely different to a bond.
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Obviously I know that. The point is the Premier league package is a scheme to generate extra revenue without the guarantee of Prem football. It’s asking us to pay extra as a type of loan in return for a free Prem season ticket should we achieve our goal of promotion.

We could sign up for it, and be in the doldrums in 5 years for all we know.
 

Robinshio

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  • May 4, 2023
  • #44
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Obviously I know that. The point is the Premier league package is a scheme to generate extra revenue without the guarantee of Prem football. It’s asking us to pay extra as a type of loan in return for a free Prem season ticket should we achieve our goal of promotion.

We could sign up for it, and be in the doldrums in 5 years for all we know.
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but you can opt out any time during the 5 years
so if you dont like what you see just pay this year = an extra £20 for premium seats, and you are effectively having a 24/1 bet on us going up
 

Grendel

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  • May 4, 2023
  • #45
Robinshio said:
but you can opt out any time during the 5 years
so if you dont like what you see just pay this year = an extra £20 for premium seats, and you are effectively having a 24/1 bet on us going up
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Is there any legal recourse the consumer has if King sells the business in the summer??
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • May 4, 2023
  • #46
rob9872 said:
I would assume not. No guarantees - remember the seat licences?
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Yeah they sold it as a seat for life.
 

stay_up_skyblues

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  • May 4, 2023
  • #47
Grendel said:
Is there any legal recourse the consumer has if King sells the business in the summer??
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You’d have contracted with the club so surely it would have to be honoured. Unless it’s dissolved and a newco set up
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 4, 2023
  • #48
1500 sold apparently
 
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MalcSB

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  • May 4, 2023
  • #49
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Obviously I know that. The point is the Premier league package is a scheme to generate extra revenue without the guarantee of Prem football. It’s asking us to pay extra as a type of loan in return for a free Prem season ticket should we achieve our goal of promotion.

We could sign up for it, and be in the doldrums in 5 years for all we know.
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If you know it’s completely different to a bond, why say it’s not really any different to a bond.

in addition to the free Prem season ticket, the prices are fixed until promotion is achieved so there is that benefit as well. Almost can’t lose - promotion this year or anytime in next 5 years = free ST, no promotion a cumulative saving against inflation.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 4, 2023
  • #50
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Obviously I know that. The point is the Premier league package is a scheme to generate extra revenue without the guarantee of Prem football. It’s asking us to pay extra as a type of loan in return for a free Prem season ticket should we achieve our goal of promotion.

We could sign up for it, and be in the doldrums in 5 years for all we know.
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It's not a loan. It's just paying more.
 

Hobo

Well-Known Member
  • May 4, 2023
  • #51
It's all geared to feeding off play off fever and before the Middlesbrough result comes in.

Sounds like he got the idea from Boyle Sports.
 
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Ashdown

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  • May 4, 2023
  • #52
Less than £22 a game for best seats in the house….by todays stupid prices for everything it’s not bad value at £500 if you are dedicated anyway. If we did have a good season then it’s a good investment.
 
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MalcSB

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  • May 4, 2023
  • #53
Ashdown said:
Less than £22 a game for best seats in the house….by todays stupid prices for everything it’s not bad value at £500 if you are dedicated anyway. If we did have a good season then it’s a good investment.
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It’s £26 a game for Premier football.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • May 4, 2023
  • #54
Ashdown said:
Less than £22 a game for best seats in the house….by todays stupid prices for everything it’s not bad value at £500 if you are dedicated anyway. If we did have a good season then it’s a good investment.
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Not sure being dedicated has anything to do with it.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #55
Nick said:
It's not a loan. It's just paying more.
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It is if you’re (potentially) getting a free season ticket. The free season ticket is the repayment.
MalcSB said:
If you know it’s completely different to a bond, why say it’s not really any different to a bond.

in addition to the free Prem season ticket, the prices are fixed until promotion is achieved so there is that benefit as well. Almost can’t lose - promotion this year or anytime in next 5 years = free ST, no promotion a cumulative saving against inflation.
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MalcSB said:
If you know it’s completely different to a bond, why say it’s not really any different to a bond.

in addition to the free Prem season ticket, the prices are fixed until promotion is achieved so there is that benefit as well. Almost can’t lose - promotion this year or anytime in next 5 years = free ST, no promotion a cumulative saving against inflation.
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MalcSB said:
If you know it’s completely different to a bond, why say it’s not really any different to a bond.

in addition to the free Prem season ticket, the prices are fixed until promotion is achieved so there is that benefit as well. Almost can’t lose - promotion this year or anytime in next 5 years = free ST, no promotion a cumulative saving against inflation.
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Guys, comparing it to a bond was an analogy and not to be taken literally. It’s a scheme where we pay more money than the product is valued at on the promise we get something back i.e. a free season ticket upon promotion. Which is an investment (like a bond) because promotion is not guaranteed - a team like Barnsley finished 5th only to be relegated the season after.

If we get promoted, it’s a great investment but if the wheels come off and we go back to being a mid table Championship club, it’s a waste of money.

£500 for a season ticket in the grand scheme of things is a lower mid table price according to last season data.
 

Covkid1968#

Well-Known Member
  • May 5, 2023
  • #56
I’ve done it… £100 more so it’s just a punt on promotion.
 
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thekidfromstrettoncamp

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #57
Nick said:
1500 sold apparently
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Nick to be honest I think there wont be more than around 2500 because I sit in 21 and a big percent of people who sit in the new premier zone are Pensioners if they intend to stay they can gamble but at the cost of £60 or move(which I will) so I cannot gamble unless I pay£500 for a ticket I can get for £360 think not.Then there are quite a few with children surely to big a gamble.Doubt that leaves many more than about 2,500 possible sales.There was a post recently that said how many seats there were in the blocks forgot how many 19-20-21 totalled but don't think I'll be far off.
 
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long way home

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #58
It's over 2000 now i have a feeling they may extend the deadline. And open it to more areas.
 
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MalcSB

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #59
Mucca Mad Boys said:
It is if you’re (potentially) getting a free season ticket. The free season ticket is the repayment.




Guys, comparing it to a bond was an analogy and not to be taken literally. It’s a scheme where we pay more money than the product is valued at on the promise we get something back i.e. a free season ticket upon promotion. Which is an investment (like a bond) because promotion is not guaranteed - a team like Barnsley finished 5th only to be relegated the season after.

If we get promoted, it’s a great investment but if the wheels come off and we go back to being a mid table Championship club, it’s a waste of money.

£500 for a season ticket in the grand scheme of things is a lower mid table price according to last season data.
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I see it more as a gamble than an investment.
 

MalcSB

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #60
long way home said:
It's over 2000 now i have a feeling they may extend the deadline. And open it to more areas.
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Why on earth would they do that, it is a gamble offered before we know whether we are in the playoffs and the limited numbers also limits the cost to the club if the gamble pays off.
 
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Winny the Bish

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #61
Already made a million off this initiative. Excellent.
 
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the rumpo kid

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #62
Rumpo junior and myself went for the deal today (rumpo j is 25 so not a real junior) I think it could be a good deal . Over five years ? I think season tickets have to increase anyway, it's fixed , and you just never know. I trust robins to deliver, and I'm always going to go anyway so why not take a little punt and try and back the boys. PUSB .
 
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Hutch11

Well-Known Member
  • May 5, 2023
  • #63
joemercersaces said:
I’m glass half full. Last year turned 60 and was branded a ‘senior citizen’ which I didn’t much care for. However the reduced price helped me get over the calumny. This year they announce that I’m no longer a coffin dodger but charge me £400!
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Same here , bastards !
 
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Hutch11

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #64
MalcSB said:
If you know it’s completely different to a bond, why say it’s not really any different to a bond.

in addition to the free Prem season ticket, the prices are fixed until promotion is achieved so there is that benefit as well. Almost can’t lose - promotion this year or anytime in next 5 years = free ST, no promotion a cumulative saving against inflation.
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And if like me you've moved to 21 , the premium seats it makes even more sense
 
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joemercersaces

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #65
joemercersaces said:
I’m glass half full. Last year turned 60 and was branded a ‘senior citizen’ which I didn’t much care for. However the reduced price helped me get over the calumny. This year they announce that I’m no longer a coffin dodger but charge me £400!
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What the hell, went for the £500. No fool like an old fool
 
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Hutch11

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #66
 

GaryJones

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #67
I’ve just done the same x 4 - not sure what’s got in to me - must be the heady sniff of promotion or something - can’t make out if I’ve gone mad or what!
 
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Woolly68

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #68
Me too x 2. Have it!
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • May 6, 2023
  • #69
You guys make me very excited!
Can anyone believe we are in touching distance of a return???
 
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Covkid1968#

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2023
  • #70
Sky Blue Pete said:
You guys make me very excited!
Can anyone believe we are in touching distance of a return???
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The place has gone mad… rational people making daft decisions. I’ve not been this excited since the first time I saw the Jenkinson step over trick.
 
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