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That’s on Robins (1 Viewer)

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SheafIsGod

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  • Dec 17, 2022
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Never made a sub to run at their tired legs (and help our tired legs) at 3-0 and then sat back inviting pressure after their 1st. Clueless and tactically inept at this level. Get him gone.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Dec 17, 2022
  • #2
SheafIsGod said:
Never made a sub to run at their tired legs (and help our tired legs) at 3-0 and then sat back inviting pressure after their 1st. Clueless and tactically inept at this level. Get him gone.
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Get you gone ya tosspot little twat
 
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rexo87

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  • Dec 17, 2022
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Really don't see how it's Robins fault. Players thought it was won, sat off and they scored 3 pretty good goals

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Evo1883

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  • Dec 17, 2022
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rexo87 said:
Really don't see how it's Robins fault. Players thought it was won, sat off and they scored 3 pretty good goals

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He has to take some blame as I'd have made the change immediately after the 1st .. but there's some houdini motherfuckers on here that's for sure
 
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rexo87

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  • Dec 17, 2022
  • #5
Evo1883 said:
He has to take some blame as I'd have made the change immediately after the 1st .. but there's some houdini motherfuckers on here that's for sure
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But what change? I would've maybe gone Dabo for Burroughs but apart from that I don't think anything really

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SAJ

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  • Dec 17, 2022
  • #6
rexo87 said:
Really don't see how it's Robins fault. Players thought it was won, sat off and they scored 3 pretty good goals

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Robin’s totally at fault. Teams tiring sends the subs out to warm up at 61 minutes doesn’t put one on for 15 minutes.
 
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Robccfc87

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  • Dec 17, 2022
  • #7
Amazing home defensive record, cruising, Robins entrusted his players to easily see it through and rightly so.
It’s on the players for not being smart enough.
Lesson learnt by all.
I’d love to see the same MR bashers comments if he had of made subs and we’d have still drawn!
 
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SBAndy

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  • Dec 17, 2022
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Massive fan of Robins but I also put the draw all on his shoulders. Needed changes far sooner. I don’t really rate Tavares but that was the game for him - drag their defence back a bit further.
 
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quinn1971

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  • Dec 17, 2022
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based on that 2nd half he’s a good candidate for the England job
 
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SAJ

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  • Dec 17, 2022
  • #10
Robccfc87 said:
Amazing home defensive record, cruising, Robins entrusted his players to easily see it through and rightly so.
It’s on the players for not being smart enough.
Lesson learnt by all.
I’d love to see the same MR bashers comments if he had of made subs and we’d have still drawn!
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Robins needed to keep the pressure on Swansea by closing them down. First sub should have been Oalmet for O’Hare should also have brought Dabo on for Burroughs who had a great game but by 69 was tiring. At some stage he could have then used Tavares. We controlled the game while we pressed ad some ad the instruction came from the bench for the wing backs to drop back and stop pressing HE lost it.
 
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SAJ

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  • Dec 17, 2022
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SAJ said:
Robins needed to keep the pressure on Swansea by closing them down. First sub should have been Oalmet for O’Hare should also have brought Dabo on for Burroughs who had a great game but by 69 was tiring. At some stage he could have then used Tavares. We controlled the game while we pressed ad some ad the instruction came from the bench for the wing backs to drop back and stop pressing HE lost it.
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Palmer for O hare
 
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theferret

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  • Dec 17, 2022
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Big fan of Robins, but that was on him today. Jamie Allen and O'Hare were treading water at 65 minutes. Thing we needed most once they got the 1st goal was energy, we needed to step up the pitch and try to win a few 2nd balls, but we just couldn't get near them.

Gutted tbh, but trying not to be too dramatic about it. Some tough games coming up, but let's just hope we can put it right on Wednesday.
 
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BackRoomRummermill

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  • Dec 17, 2022
  • #13
You can’t blame robins - the players yes
 
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Robccfc87

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  • Dec 17, 2022
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Incredible how much tactical insight you have after the game has finished! Behave yourself man, Robins will be easily as shocked as the rest of us by that collapse.
SAJ said:
Robins needed to keep the pressure on Swansea by closing them down. First sub should have been Oalmet for O’Hare should also have brought Dabo on for Burroughs who had a great game but by 69 was tiring. At some stage he could have then used Tavares. We controlled the game while we pressed ad some ad the instruction came from the bench for the wing backs to drop back and stop pressing HE lost
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TwistAndShoutCCFC1987

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  • Dec 17, 2022
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rexo87 said:
Really don't see how it's Robins fault. Players thought it was won, sat off and they scored 3 pretty good goals

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It was slightly his fault. Brought on kelly for o’hare to try and stop them equalizing and then failed to react when they drew level leaving us with gyokeres totally isolated for the last 10 mins or so chasing a goal
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 17, 2022
  • #16
So what happened with O'Hare the absolute engine?
Never tires?
 
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shmmeee

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  • Dec 17, 2022
  • #17
rexo87 said:
But what change? I would've maybe gone Dabo for Burroughs but apart from that I don't think anything really

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Waghorn or Palmer for Allen.
 

SBAndy

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  • Dec 17, 2022
  • #18
Robccfc87 said:
Incredible how much tactical insight you have after the game has finished! Behave yourself man, Robins will be easily as shocked as the rest of us by that collapse.
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Robins is also in the privileged position to be able to change it.
 
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SBAndy

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  • Dec 17, 2022
  • #19
shmmeee said:
Waghorn or Palmer for Allen.
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Double change - Palmer and Tavares for O’Hare and Allen.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 17, 2022
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However anyone feels or whoever is to blame or how much, none of it matters now. Huge game on Wednesday against a team bang on form and we have to ensure that whoever features is right on their game.
 
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Super Graham Withey

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  • Dec 17, 2022
  • #21
That’s on SISU. Without Fadz our inexperience at the back cost us today. No squad depth.
 
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GIMOC

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  • Dec 17, 2022
  • #22
Not sure what Tavares has done wrong. Robins in game decision and changes does raise eyebrows and should not be immune to criticism when deserved
 
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Greggs

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  • Dec 17, 2022
  • #23
Boosh is back getting bites!
 

SBAndy

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  • Dec 17, 2022
  • #24
Super Graham Withey said:
That’s on SISU. Without Fadz our inexperience at the back cost us today. No squad depth.
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Behave. Nowt to do with Fadz, the defence wasn’t really the issue. Wave after wave of attack as the midfield and forwards pretty much downed tools.
 
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skyblu3sk

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  • Dec 17, 2022
  • #25
SheafIsGod said:
Never made a sub to run at their tired legs (and help our tired legs) at 3-0 and then sat back inviting pressure after their 1st. Clueless and tactically inept at this level. Get him gone.
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Dec 17, 2022
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Robccfc87 said:
Incredible how much tactical insight you have after the game has finished! Behave yourself man, Robins will be easily as shocked as the rest of us by that collapse.
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Yes, but unlike us he has it within his power to try and do something to change it.

He could have made a change after the first goal.
He could have made a more attacking sub than a DM coming back from injury for a AM when the problem was clearly that we were sitting too deep inviting pressure.
He could have used all the subs available to him rather than two to disrupt the momentum and/or give us fresh legs and regain some attacking impetus.

But he didn't. He watched and let us become negative and defensive and let them back into the game.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 17, 2022
  • #27
GIMOC said:
Not sure what Tavares has done wrong. Robins in game decision and changes does raise eyebrows and should not be immune to criticism when deserved
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He’s not good enough
 

Robccfc87

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  • Dec 17, 2022
  • #28
SBAndy said:
Robins is also in the privileged position to be able to change it.
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But not have the power of knowing a team 3-0 up will stop doing what they were doing and resting on their laurels.
 

Robccfc87

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  • Dec 17, 2022
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Yes, but unlike us he has it within his power to try and do something to change it.

He could have made a change after the first goal.
He could have made a more attacking sub than a DM coming back from injury for a AM when the problem was clearly that we were sitting too deep inviting pressure.
He could have used all the subs available to him rather than two to disrupt the momentum and/or give us fresh legs and regain some attacking impetus.

But he didn't. He watched and let us become negative and defensive and let them back into the game.
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With no guarantees.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Dec 17, 2022
  • #30
Robccfc87 said:
But not have the power of knowing a team 3-0 up will stop doing what they were doing and resting on their laurels.
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But having the power to be able to see exactly that happening in front of him.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Dec 17, 2022
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Robccfc87 said:
With no guarantees.
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Then why even bother picking a team and squad before the match? There's no guarantees.
 
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GIMOC

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  • Dec 17, 2022
  • #32
Sky Blue Pete said:
He’s not good enough
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how do you work that out? Without game time we just don’t know. hes a very useful player to have come off the bench with his pace and enthusiasm. Sunderland away this season a prime example
 

stupot07

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  • Dec 17, 2022
  • #33
Robccfc87 said:
But not have the power of knowing a team 3-0 up will stop doing what they were doing and resting on their laurels.
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Thats called in game management. We could all see it coming before their first goal. It wasn't against the run of play, it was coming. He had 8 minutes to change it before their second goal and didn't. He waited until we were 3-2 and really clinging on before changing it.

He is our King but he isn't infallible, and we have every right to question when he gets something as badly wrong as this. We rightly give him all the platitudes when we's got it right.

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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 17, 2022
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GIMOC said:
how do you work that out? Without game time we just don’t know. hes a very useful player to have come off the bench with his pace and enthusiasm. Sunderland away this season a prime example
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Because the manager who has overseen a hugely successful last 6 years doesn’t play him mainly
 

GIMOC

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  • Dec 17, 2022
  • #35
Sky Blue Pete said:
Because the manager who has overseen a hugely successful last 6 years doesn’t play him mainly
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the same manager who brings an ageing not good enough Liam Kelly on the pitch? Same manager who brings waghorn on last week who will not be here next season. sorry but that’s a poor excuse. if he doesn’t play we don’t know how good he is
 
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