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Samo

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  • Dec 20, 2022
  • #36
Otis said:
I live here. I was born here. I love Coventry, but I have said many disparaging remarks about the city too. It used to be an awful, oppressive place at times and ugly too.

The 70's were especially grim. Many, many of us have slagged the place off. True Coventry kids.
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Its improved immensely but as I always used to say... it might be a shithole but its our shithole.
 
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Torquay Sky Blue

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  • Dec 20, 2022
  • #37
Saw them first at Tiffany's back in 79 and last at the Cathedral in 2019 . Fantastic memories. I've always been proud to say they're from Cov .
 
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torchomatic

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  • Dec 20, 2022
  • #38
Peter Billing Eyes said:
I wasn’t talking purely about football. Just because he put Coventry on the music map doesn’t mean he liked the place, he was the first Special to leave Cov after John Bradbury and made some pretty disparaging comments about the place.
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No he didn't. Coventry was an awful place at the end of the 70s and early 80s.
Otis said:
I live here. I was born here. I love Coventry, but I have said many disparaging remarks about the city too. It used to be an awful, oppressive place at times and ugly too.

The 70's were especially grim. Many, many of us have slagged the place off. True Coventry kids.
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Beautifully put, Otis. I wasn't born in Cov but came into the City a lot in the late 70s and early 80s, and not just for the football. As a Mod in 82/83/84 I remember regularly being chased by skinheads through the precinct. Going back to my scooter after wandering around the city centre and finding it either pushed over or the seat covered in spit. It was an awful, scary place back then. A concrete jungle all right.

The "yeah but, he slagged off the city" argument is a weak one.
 
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olderskyblue

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  • Dec 20, 2022
  • #39
Otis said:
I live here. I was born here. I love Coventry, but I have said many disparaging remarks about the city too. It used to be an awful, oppressive place at times and ugly too.

The 70's were especially grim. Many, many of us have slagged the place off. True Coventry kids.
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It’s weird, I was 16 in 1970 so enjoyed a good part of my youth in the 70’s and had a great time. I didn’t give a shit it if it was ugly, never noticed. Too busy having fun down the town with mates, or dating girls. Didn’t seem grim at all.

a neighbour was Terrys cousin, so saw him now and again. RIP
 
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shmmeee

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  • Dec 20, 2022
  • #40
See the club say they can’t wear the two tone kit but are planning a tribute.

I’ll take a win so we play Enjoy Yourself at the end, what do we reckon it could be? I’m guessing scoreboard tribute video.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Dec 20, 2022
  • #41
shmmeee said:
See the club say they can’t wear the two tone kit but are planning a tribute.

I’ll take a win so we play Enjoy Yourself at the end, what do we reckon it could be? I’m guessing scoreboard tribute video.
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I'm sure plenty of fans will be wearing the shirt
 
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torchomatic

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  • Dec 20, 2022
  • #42
shmmeee said:
See the club say they can’t wear the two tone kit but are planning a tribute.

I’ll take a win so we play Enjoy Yourself at the end, what do we reckon it could be? I’m guessing scoreboard tribute video.
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I get it with the kit. There are probably EFL rules about this kind of thing. I guess a tribute on the screen and every song being TH related. Hope so.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 20, 2022
  • #43
torchomatic said:
No he didn't. Coventry was an awful place at the end of the 70s and early 80s.


Beautifully put, Otis. I wasn't born in Cov but came into the City a lot in the late 70s and early 80s, and not just for the football. As a Mod in 82/83/84 I remember regularly being chased by skinheads through the precinct. Going back to my scooter after wandering around the city centre and finding it either pushed over or the seat covered in spit. It was an awful, scary place back then. A concrete jungle all right.

The "yeah but, he slagged off the city" argument is a weak one.
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It want an argument, Peter Billing made a statement, and it was true,simple as that.
 
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Hullinho87

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  • Dec 20, 2022
  • #44
pusbccfc said:
99% of people from Coventry say negative things about it but we're all proud to be from the city.
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I think that’s the prerogative of being from somewhere. It doesn’t have to be a black and white relationship with a place.
A lot of my family haven’t been to Coventry, at least not in the centre for years but I know that it is a huge part of their identity - in many ways it is your identity for people, whether they like it or not, it just is in you, Cov. It was the same for Terry, I am sure.

Personally, I see this kind of debate as akin to seeing two brothers fighting and hating each other but if an outsider steps in the brothers will both turn on you.
 
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alexccfc99

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  • Dec 20, 2022
  • #45
clint van damme said:
He said he didn't have a good word to say about the city, and that's 100 per cent correct. Any interview where he mentions the city its always in the negative.
Still sad news right enough, RIP.
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The bloke was a diagnosed manic depressive and suffered with bipolar - I’d take anything like that with a massive pinch of salt

proof is in the pudding for me in the amount of times he come back to do gigs that deep down he never forgot his roots
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 20, 2022
  • #46
alexccfc99 said:
The bloke was a diagnosed manic depressive and suffered with bipolar - I’d take anything like that with a massive pinch of salt

proof is in the pudding for me in the amount of times he come back to do gigs that deep down he never forgot his roots
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I wouldn't disagree with this.
 
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torchomatic

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  • Dec 20, 2022
  • #47
alexccfc99 said:
The bloke was a diagnosed manic depressive and suffered with bipolar - I’d take anything like that with a massive pinch of salt

proof is in the pudding for me in the amount of times he come back to do gigs that deep down he never forgot his roots
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Absolutely. The guy and his bandmates did more for the City than almost anyone else in recent times. How many on here have slagged off their city? Most, I would say, but that's OK because they're not Terry Hall. Did more for racial harmony than any Government ever did.

Those who complain about either weren't around or have forgotten just what a terrible place it was back then. I didn't live in the city and I was terrified on most of my visits to the city centre. Gigs were a particularly nervy time.
 
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CCFC54321

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  • Dec 20, 2022
  • #48
torchomatic said:
I get it with the kit. There are probably EFL rules about this kind of thing. I guess a tribute on the screen and every song being TH related. Hope so.
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I doubt they have the kit around anymore to make it happen even if they had enough notice.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 20, 2022
  • #49
torchomatic said:
Absolutely. The guy and his bandmates did more for the City than almost anyone else in recent times. How many on here have slagged off their city? Most, I would say, but that's OK because they're not Terry Hall. Did more for racial harmony than any Government ever did.

Those who complain about either weren't around or have forgotten just what a terrible place it was back then. I didn't live in the city and I was terrified on most of my visits to the city centre. Gigs were a particularly nervy time.
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No ones complaining! A statement was made that happens to be true.
He had a complicated relationship with the city and that's got to be part of the discussion about his life.
No one has said he was an important figure, didn't do a lot for the City or isn't a sad loss.
 
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alexccfc99

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  • Dec 20, 2022
  • #50
CCFC54321 said:
I doubt they have the kit around anymore to make it happen even if they had enough notice.
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If I’m right in saying - CCFC’s policy is each player gets 3 match issue versions of each shirt every season and at the end of the season they are allowed to give them away to fans/family/charity but if they do so beforehand they have to pay to replace them

I doubt that there’s any of the two tone shirts lying around to get a whole batch for the current squad
 

the rumpo kid

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  • Dec 20, 2022
  • #51
Think a minute of applause rather than silence would be more fitting for a performer to show appreciation for his music and his message, when all is said and done he's still one of our own !
 
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Grendel

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  • Dec 20, 2022
  • #52
I don’t suppose the fact he was kidnapped by a teacher in his school and smuggled to France to a peado ring helped his love for the place much
 
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CCFC54321

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  • Dec 20, 2022
  • #53
alexccfc99 said:
If I’m right in saying - CCFC’s policy is each player gets 3 match issue versions of each shirt every season and at the end of the season they are allowed to give them away to fans/family/charity but if they do so beforehand they have to pay to replace them

I doubt that there’s any of the two tone shirts lying around to get a whole batch for the current squad
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inc socks and shorts etc impossible task.
 

nicksar

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  • Dec 20, 2022
  • #54
olderskyblue said:
It’s weird, I was 16 in 1970 so enjoyed a good part of my youth in the 70’s and had a great time. I didn’t give a shit it if it was ugly, never noticed. Too busy having fun down the town with mates, or dating girls. Didn’t seem grim at all.

a neighbour was Terrys cousin, so saw him now and again. RIP
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Snap,I was 16 in 1970 as well and had a great time in the city centre... can't remember a Friday or Saturday night without a fight in or outside a pub but no one got stabbed or shot.... different place these days!!!
 
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slowpoke

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  • Dec 20, 2022
  • #55
Tough city Coventry back in the early 70s especially but you didn’t really notice just got on with your teenage life, not sure why but in the late 50s/60s there was a big influx from all corners of Britain to Cov for the big factories, when you think in its hey day the Standard alone employed 15000 then there was Rootes/Chrysler, the Morris, Masseys, Rolls Royce, GEC plus loads of other subsidiaries all with thousands of workers and many of those from Ireland, Wales, Scotland and Geordie land, lots of youths, lots of different cultures, lots of fighting. Each area had its skin-head gang flexing their muscles.

The Specials typified those days, were part of it and the group itself made up from different creeds and cultures, not saying they were anywhere near as big or good as the Beatles but they did did create a big & different influence.
So yes RIP Terry Hall ex Woodway Park school boy, and thanks for the memory and helping to put little unfashionable Coventry on the music map.
 
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Peter Billing Eyes

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  • Dec 20, 2022
  • #56
torchomatic said:
No he didn't. Coventry was an awful place at the end of the 70s and early 80s.


Beautifully put, Otis. I wasn't born in Cov but came into the City a lot in the late 70s and early 80s, and not just for the football. As a Mod in 82/83/84 I remember regularly being chased by skinheads through the precinct. Going back to my scooter after wandering around the city centre and finding it either pushed over or the seat covered in spit. It was an awful, scary place back then. A concrete jungle all right.

The "yeah but, he slagged off the city" argument is a weak one.
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To be clear, it’s not an argument.
 

Colin Steins Smile

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  • Dec 20, 2022
  • #57
The one thing that stands out regarding Terry Hall was his immense talent!
 
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shmmeee

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  • Dec 20, 2022
  • #58
Grendel said:
I don’t suppose the fact he was kidnapped by a teacher in his school and smuggled to France to a peado ring helped his love for the place much
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Wait. What??
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 20, 2022
  • #59
shmmeee said:
Wait. What??
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Terry Hall life 'turned hell' amid kidnapping incident

Terry Hall, frontman of one of the leading influential British bands in the 1980s, breathed his last at 63.The musician was born in Coventry in 1959. However, his life experienced a 360-degree shift after he was kidnapped...
www.geo.tv
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 20, 2022
  • #60
shmmeee said:
Wait. What??
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The Fun boy 3 song Well fancy that is about the incident
 
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Samo

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  • Dec 20, 2022
  • #61
When you think all the bands that might have been noted for coming from Cov and we got The Specials, one of the coolest bands ever to set foot on a stage.
 
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EalingSB

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  • Dec 20, 2022
  • #62
Being Coventry fans we’re inextricably linked with the city and its famous sons and daughters. Been quite heartwarming the number of messages I’ve received from people from different countries today who have said what a sad loss it is for the city and music.
 
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slowpoke

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  • Dec 20, 2022
  • #63
Samo said:
When you think all the bands that might have been noted for coming from Cov and we got The Specials, one of the coolest bands ever to set foot on a stage.
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We had Frank Ifield, well he was born in Coundon and lived there until his family moved to Aus, Hazel O’Connor and the “singing dustman” Vince Hill.
 
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Samo

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  • Dec 20, 2022
  • #64
slowpoke said:
We had Frank Ifield, well he was born in Coundon and lived there until his family moved to Aus, Hazel O’Connor and the “singing dustman” Vince Hill.
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And who could forget Lieutenant Pigeon?
 
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CDK

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  • Dec 20, 2022
  • #65
Loved the 70s n 80s ,Tiffany's,chesford grange,fights,laughs,loves.
The sky blues always loved ska,two tone started running my mobile disco when I was 18 and still doing gigs right now in my 60s,.
 
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Samo

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  • Dec 20, 2022
  • #66
From hearing 'Zigger Zagger Zigger, Regis is a ...' to 'Black and white, will unite, smash the national front' on the terraces in just a few years and The Specials played a big part in that. Can you think of any other band with a legacy that meaningful?
 
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slowpoke

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  • Dec 20, 2022
  • #67
Samo said:
And who could forget Lieutenant Pigeon?
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Forgot them their old mum banging away on that old piano and let’s not forget Chuck Berry recording his big hit My Ding-a Ling live at our Locarno, I was at that concert so can boast being a crucial part of a number one record by singing along with the chorus.
 
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Samo

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  • Dec 20, 2022
  • #68
slowpoke said:
Forgot them their old mum banging away on that old piano and let’s not forget Chuck Berry recording his big hit My Ding-a Ling live at our Locarno, I was at that concert so can boast being a crucial part of a number one record by singing along with the chorus.
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I never knew that!
 

slowpoke

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  • Dec 20, 2022
  • #69
Samo said:
I never knew that!
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It’s true, thought it was common knowledge. The crowd singing the chorus were mainly Cov kids.
 
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Samo

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  • Dec 20, 2022
  • #70
slowpoke said:
It’s true, thought it was common knowledge.
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I remember the song very well but never knew the live version was in Cov. How did that get past me?
 
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