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Ian1779

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  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #211
Nick said:
Ha, really? Probably went mental about car parking prices too, Fisher ripping us up.

It's no wonder people get so angry and worked up, when they just make shit up and others believe it.
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The prices were high because we didn't negotiate a better deal with ACL. Also Wasps prices were different because they did better negotiating, and the fact they own ACL was immaterial.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #212
Ian1779 said:
The prices were high because we didn't negotiate a better deal with ACL. Also Wasps prices were different because they did better negotiating, and the fact they own ACL was immaterial.
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Unfortunately that's the sort of shit that gets peddled so much and people like that shout the loudest.
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #213
Yet when the CT do an article
That is titled

BBC Price of Football 2016: What is the real cost of watching Coventry City?

The article points out that we pay the most for a pie and a cup of tea.
It then points out that it is important
To remember compass set the prices not SISU and the club only get 15% of the profits.

The article says we are average for season ticket prices. It even points out how more expensive the likes of Southend are compared to us!

It shows a picture of the tool the BBC have used to work out the cost of supporting Coventry City.

There is one line about the cost of replica shirts and match day programs that puts us at the top end.

Most of the article from me reading it is pro club and anti compass.

Highlighting the reasonable cost of Season tickets the fact that compass are ripping the fans off on beverages and the club are not even benefiting from it.

Yet in this forum. This article is highlighted in a thread under "Telegraph spin. "

Dave posts this

"Good one in there today. Every club in League One apart from Fleetwood charge £3 for a programme. In the CT article this becomes 'City also top the League One charts for the most expensive programmes"


For me the spin is Dave picking out one line about the cost of matchday programs and suggesting the article is part of spin by the CET. That for me is the real spin here Dave not the CET.

Sorry chaps but if you are going to slate the paper for spinning surely you need to come up with better examples like this and not your own spin!
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #214
How many people do you think bother to read to the part that mentions compass?



Or how many just look at the graphic accompanying the article?



Do you look at that and think Compass set the prices or that only 1 team in the division has a cheaper programme than us?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #215
Maybe not that clear is it?

 
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Ian1779

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  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #216
Nick said:
Maybe not that clear is it?

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That was the chap I was talking about.
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #217
chiefdave said:
How many people do you think bother to read to the part that mentions compass?
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How many people bothered to read the article at all ?

The CT get plenty of publicity on here and as a result get plenty of clicks.
 

Ian1779

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  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #218
ccfcway said:
How many people bothered to read the article at all ?

The CT get plenty of publicity on here and as a result get plenty of clicks.
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They probably read just the headline and make their own conclusions... As illustrated above.
 
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crowsnest

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #219
dongonzalos said:
Yet when the CT do an article
That is titled

BBC Price of Football 2016: What is the real cost of watching Coventry City?

The article points out that we pay the most for a pie and a cup of tea.
It then points out that it is important
To remember compass set the prices not SISU and the club only get 15% of the profits.

The article says we are average for season ticket prices. It even points out how more expensive the likes of Southend are compared to us!

It shows a picture of the tool the BBC have used to work out the cost of supporting Coventry City.

There is one line about the cost of replica shirts and match day programs that puts us at the top end.

Most of the article from me reading it is pro club and anti compass.

Highlighting the reasonable cost of Season tickets the fact that compass are ripping the fans off on beverages and the club are not even benefiting from it.

Yet in this forum. This article is highlighted in a thread under "Telegraph spin. "

Dave posts this

"Good one in there today. Every club in League One apart from Fleetwood charge £3 for a programme. In the CT article this becomes 'City also top the League One charts for the most expensive programmes"


For me the spin is Dave picking out one line about the cost of matchday programs and suggesting the article is part of spin by the CET. That for me is the real spin here Dave not the CET.

Sorry chaps but if you are going to slate the paper for spinning surely you need to come up with better examples like this and not your own spin!
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You missed this bit:
The Sky Blues also charge the most in the third tier for a cup of tea, with supporters having to pay £2.50 for a brew.
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How do the sky blues charge the most, we do not sell tea.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #220
chiefdave said:
How many people do you think bother to read to the part that mentions compass?

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Or how many just look at the graphic accompanying the article?

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Do you look at that and think Compass set the prices or that only 1 team in the division has a cheaper programme than us?
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Try to set your preconceptions aside. Read the article as a whole and answer yourself truthfully.
Does that article represent going against the club. Or is it quite balanced and actually shows the club overall in a good light.
If they were spinning against the club in this article. Surely they would not have mentioned that compass set the prices.
Also why point out how the likes of Southend are far more expensive than us on season tickets.
( I take it on those parts you think the CET is spinning for the club!!)
Sorry Dave you are way off the mark here.
The one line you pick out comes after the compass comment.
So yes I do think someone would bother to read that. If you think think someone would bother to read the matchday program bit below it. You can't have it one way.

Also which will people be more concerned about the cost of tickets and their food and drink. Or the £3 program.

It is hardly a great spinning point for the CET against the club. Whereas the reasonable ticket price and blaming Compass for the cost of food and drink is very good PR for the club
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #221
ccfcway said:
How many people bothered to read the article at all ?

The CT get plenty of publicity on here and as a result get plenty of clicks.
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I didn't see the article until it was mentioned on here. Even then I struggled to find it looking at the web site
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #222
chiefdave said:
How many people do you think bother to read to the part that mentions compass?
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Not you and Nick by the look of it. You brought the article up in the first place spitting feathers over 2 lines rather than taking a balanced view of the whole article and Nick proclaims it as "any way to kick the club when they can". Easy to get angry and talk of conspiracy theories when you pick and choose what you take notice of in an article if you bother reading it in it's entirety at all.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #223
crowsnest said:
You missed this bit:


How do the sky blues charge the most, we do not sell tea.
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Think you missed this bit

"It is important to remember however, that Coventry City do not set the prices for food and beverages sold inside the ground. Compass catering are responsible for providing food and drink at the Ricoh Arena, and the Sky Blues only receive 15% of the revenue."
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #224
Nick said:
Maybe not that clear is it?

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That's just oldy whoever that is spinning the story like Dave has done here.
The story itself is not anti club.
It's just others spinning it that way. Or as above using it to be anti club. When the article clearly isn't
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #225
skybluetony176 said:
Not you and Nick by the look of it. You brought the article up in the first place spitting feathers over 2 lines rather than taking a balanced view of the whole article and Nick proclaims it as "any way to kick the club when they can". Easy to get angry and talk of conspiracy theories when you pick and choose what you take notice of in an article if you bother reading it in it's entirety at all.
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Absolutely no question, ironically they are doing exactly what they are criticise others for.
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #226
dongonzalos said:
Absolutely no question, ironically they are doing exactly what they are criticise others for.
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Perhaps the thread title should be changed to SBT spin
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #227
skybluetony176 said:
Not you and Nick by the look of it. You brought the article up in the first place spitting feathers over 2 lines rather than taking a balanced view of the whole article and Nick proclaims it as "any way to kick the club when they can". Easy to get angry and talk of conspiracy theories when you pick and choose what you take notice of in an article if you bother reading it in it's entirety at all.
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Nobody is angry or saying it's a conspiracy theory. Strangely it only seems to be you who bangs on about that one?
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #228
dongonzalos said:
Think you missed this bit

"It is important to remember however, that Coventry City do not set the prices for food and beverages sold inside the ground. Compass catering are responsible for providing food and drink at the Ricoh Arena, and the Sky Blues only receive 15% of the revenue."
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And we all know why , SISU would sell your SOUL TO THE DEVIL . :greedy::greedy::greedy:
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #229
Ian1779 said:
They probably read just the headline and make their own conclusions... As illustrated above.
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The headline....


BBC Price of Football 2016: What is the real cost of watching Coventry City?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #230
Nick said:
Nobody is angry or saying it's a conspiracy theory. Strangely it only seems to be you who bangs on about that one?
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You said and I quote "any way to kick the club when they can" only they didn't kick the club.
 
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Ian1779

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  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #231
dongonzalos said:
The headline....


BBC Price of Football 2016: What is the real cost of watching Coventry City?
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If you look at the tweet that posted this story on Twitter - it says 'Expensive Pies and Tea at CCFC'

You know exactly what that is implying...
 
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Nick

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  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #232
skybluetony176 said:
You said and I quote "any way to kick the club when they can" only they didn't kick the club.
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Isn't really a good idea of it all is it? The bit about topping the charts makes it sound like we are the most expensive, where we aren't. The same as on another thread it was saying about the shirts being the most expensive, where it isn't.

And yes, they will try and kick the club whenever they can. Have a look at how they promoted it on Social Media
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #233
Oh, and on the subject of spin.

This whole 10% to Charity line that the Trust are also pushing to sell Simon's book and it's his cut. You could make more than 10% on each one from buying it retail other than amazon and not being the author.
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #234
Any way to kick the club when they can

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sp...est-christmas-presents-coventry-city-12187842
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #235
skybluetony176 said:
Any way to kick the club when they can

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sp...est-christmas-presents-coventry-city-12187842
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Saw that actually You are right about this article, nice little addition at the end though to push Simon's book.

Still, they didn't approve my comment saying a signed football would be a great present

I think that's more down a slow news day, as it's followed by "Coventry Related Christmas Gifts" that feature 2 tone business cards...
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #236
Clearly people seeing something like this will know it is all down to Wasps and Compass.
 
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ccfcway

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  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #237
agreed

they should have put....

#itsalldowntoWaspsandCompass.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #238
Surely for balance there should be an article saying football fans forced to pay more than snooker fans? etc, etc etc

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/coventry-city-fans-forced-pay-11725762
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #239
skybluetony176 said:
Not you and Nick by the look of it. You brought the article up in the first place spitting feathers over 2 lines rather than taking a balanced view of the whole article and Nick proclaims it as "any way to kick the club when they can". Easy to get angry and talk of conspiracy theories when you pick and choose what you take notice of in an article if you bother reading it in it's entirety at all.
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In fairness, you've summed up most people there. They'll see a couple of lines and come away thinking that Fisher is pocketing a load of tea money. Like what has happened. Whether it was intentional or not on the part of the article writer I don't know nor care.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #240
fernandopartridge said:
In fairness, you've summed up most people there. They'll see a couple of lines and come away thinking that Fisher is pocketing a load of tea money. Like what has happened. Whether it was intentional or not on the part of the article writer I don't know nor care.
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I don't disagree FP. I just found it funny that posters who are usually the first to shoot anyone down who mentions management fee's or all the transfer fee's are being taken out of the club to keep Joy in handbags while feeling all superior and educated on all things CCFC are making misconceptions on articles in the CT based on the same principle that leads people to believe that believe that management fee's, all the transfer fee's are being taken out of the club to keep Joy in handbags. Failure to read and/or take in the details. After all, the devil is in the detail.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #241
skybluetony176 said:
I don't disagree FP. I just found it funny that posters who are usually the first to shoot anyone down who mentions management fee's or all the transfer fee's are being taken out of the club to keep Joy in handbags while feeling all superior and educated on all things CCFC are making misconceptions on articles in the CT based on the same principle that leads people to believe that believe that management fee's, all the transfer fee's are being taken out of the club to keep Joy in handbags. Failure to read and/or take in the details. After all, the devil is in the detail.
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What misconceptions are being made?
 

Moff

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  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #242
dongonzalos said:
Absolutely no question, ironically they are doing exactly what they are criticise others for.
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So people are criticising Nick for what they do themselves. Well that is ironic. Perhaps we should just have an irony wheel that goes round in circles.
 
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oucho

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  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #243
The club's a mess and going nowhere, oh well let's give a load of stick to people who complain about it, like the CT and the Trust, as if it is their fucking fault....
 
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dutchman

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  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #244
oucho said:
The club's a mess and going nowhere, oh well let's give a load of stick to people who complain about it, like the CT and the Trust, as if it is their fucking fault....
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They didn't complain about it though did they, until very recently.
 
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letsallsingtogether

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  • Nov 18, 2016
  • #245
oucho said:
The club's a mess and going nowhere, oh well let's give a load of stick to people who complain about it, like the CT and the Trust, as if it is their fucking fault....
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Exactly right.
No more needs to be said really.
 
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