It's so tough trying to find that balance. We talk a lot about this at the games. Is it finding those gems from league one that you think can go on to play in the premier league, or just finding one that's good enough to get us there and then we can bring in better quality. Then you have to remember the financial side of it, we can't overspend without having quality to sell off.This is the thing, it seems we have a lot of ambition for signing but there’s no use if we are not seen as an ambitious club for the players.
A lot of people shit on league one signings but there’s a some talent in that league and a lot who would love to push on to Cov
Planning for next season I think, keep the opposition down and all that, maybe we need to pursue the home markets and leave the exotic signings alone until we're solid challenger's.This wouldn't surprise me. Perhaps he sees himself as playing at a higher level. Could be the reason we went on to pursue Tahirovic in the summer.
It was a joke about his name TBF JimThis wouldn't surprise me. Perhaps he sees himself as playing at a higher level. Could be the reason we went on to pursue Tahirovic in the summer.
I realised after. Not enough coffee for me this morning!It was a joke about his name TBF Jim
Might have come if FL was the manager then!That was it. Wonder why so many CMs pulled out from joining us. Seems maybe we were way over ambitious for people we were looking at?
Fadz left at the right time. A few months later he couldn’t get into the Blackburn team.
He’s a leader of men on the pitch but we have no idea how good a coach he will become.
Out of our league but someone like James Tarkowski would be the ideal fit for us right now.
Right for him to go, wrong for us not to replace his experienceApparently Fadz is a defacto coach at Blackburn and is always a sub even though he rarely gets minutes as this allows him to get up and down the sideline to give out instructions.
Even if it was right to let him go it was a massive error not to replace him with a player of a similar ilk.
Easier said than done I reckon. Fadz was quality, and I’m not sure how we managed to get him in league 1. God knows what he was like when he was more mobile.Apparently Fadz is a defacto coach at Blackburn and is always a sub even though he rarely gets minutes as this allows him to get up and down the sideline to give out instructions.
Even if it was right to let him go it was a massive error not to replace him with a player of a similar ilk.
Lampard wouldn’t have joined without the promise of being backed in the transfer window. This job has too much riding on his own reputation to not have the team and backing from the owner for his own success.Frustrating really as we had a good CM and good RB lined up. The loan in midfield couldn't be helped, the player suffered an injury, I believe he's only just returned from it. Though young, he would've been promising imo.
I've heard we have 2 already lined up for January.
Spot on. From what I've heard, he will be backed well, over this window and the next.Lampard wouldn’t have joined without the promise of being backed in the transfer window. This job has too much riding on his own reputation to not have the team and backing from the owner for his own success.
Agreed that’s this forum can get toxic in a bad patch, not all our players have been poor purchases or a waste money. Look at how the script has flipped on EMC since Lampard took over.Spot on. From what I've heard, he will be backed well, over this window and the next.
You're right, I wouldn't call any of them a waste of money as such. They all have potential, the balance of the players recruited can be criticised I think. Recruiting so many younger ones at once has left them wide open for needless abuse.Agreed that’s this forum can get toxic in a bad patch, not all our players have been poor purchases or a waste money. Look at how the script has flipped on EMC since Lampard took over.
We clearly had more money in the pot for Jan. We agreed to sign that Stamenic, we’re chasing Burnley-bound Sonne and as you mentioned, a few other players.
That doesn’t scream King panicking because the Hamer and Vik fund has run dry. Far from it.
Lampard has elite coaches around him and his own record is probably the best we could’ve got and you can see that we look like a better outfit under him.
As soon as we can shore up our defence, we’ll march up the table because we’re free-scoring even without our top scorer and talisman in Wright.
Plenty of reason to remain optimistic and hoping we make some good moves in the transfer window!
Nail on the head for alot of it to be honest.You're right, I wouldn't call any of them a waste of money as such. They all have potential, the balance of the players recruited can be criticised I think. Recruiting so many younger ones at once has left them wide open for needless abuse.
How many games to they get before they get called 'dogs shit', 'waste of space', 'donkey', 'lazy', 'they just look thick'. it's vile.
Have seen EMC called all sorts previous to his last run of games, but any normal person will know that time and minutes breeds confidence. He will only get better now (with time), people singing his name. I had a chat with him about his song, it's amazing what that can do for a player.
Same with Simms, first full season at this level last year, I thought he had a decent return for a then 22 year old, just moved to a new home with a young family, finally finding a place to settle. Came up with some good goals and assists against Wolves, Man U etc.
Doesn't mean he will go into his next season flying, he's young. Also requires the whole team to be at it, which lets face it, none of them were. Passing sideways and backwards all season, because of low confidence. Nobody spotting the runs and having the balls to play them. Now we are finally loading the box with players and crosses, he deserves to be given minutes.
Being dropped after having 2 good games with goals against Watford and Luton couldn't have done the confidence any good.
We all saw last season, once they stopped dragging him off after 55/60 mins each game, he came good.
Can already see the difference under FL, he likes to get stuck in on the training pitch too from what I've heard, which the players love. He's spending individual time with all of them, which I think is good man management.
Agreed, sure up the defence and stop playing sideways / backwards, we're going to improve rapidly.
Also on the chant, who would of thought getting behind the players would breed confidence and a higher work rate rather than just calling them names. Again guilty of it, but think that was a big part of the 21/22 and 22/23 togetherness around the team and the fans.You're right, I wouldn't call any of them a waste of money as such. They all have potential, the balance of the players recruited can be criticised I think. Recruiting so many younger ones at once has left them wide open for needless abuse.
How many games do they get before they get called 'dog shit', 'waste of space', 'donkey', 'lazy', 'they just look thick'. it's vile.
Have seen EMC called all sorts previous to his last run of games, but any normal person will know that time and minutes breeds confidence. He will only get better now (with time), people singing his name. I had a chat with him about his song, it's amazing what that can do for a player.
Same with Simms, first full season at this level last year, I thought he had a decent return for a then 22 year old, just moved to a new home with a young family, finally finding a place to settle. Came up with some good goals and assists against Wolves, Man U etc.
Doesn't mean he will go into his next season flying, he's young. Also requires the whole team to be at it, which lets face it, none of them were. Passing sideways and backwards all season, because of low confidence. Nobody spotting the runs and having the balls to play them. Now we are finally loading the box with players and crosses, he deserves to be given minutes.
Being dropped after having 2 good games with goals against Watford and Luton couldn't have done the confidence any good.
We all saw last season, once they stopped dragging him off after 55/60 mins each game, he came good.
Can already see the difference under FL, he likes to get stuck in on the training pitch too from what I've heard, which the players love. He's spending individual time with all of them, which I think is good man management.
Agreed, sure up the defence and stop playing sideways / backwards, we're going to improve rapidly.
Yeah, losing the likes of Kelly, Godden, Mcfadzean all at once. You've got to ask questions of recruitment there. I saw an interview with Eccles, where he was saying he is considered a senior member of the squad now. No, that for me isn't right. You need some seasoned pro's in there. How that wasn't addressed is beyond me.Nail on the head for alot of it to be honest.
Its not the players as I think most if not all are decent footballers but more the team composition which is off. Might be called an idiot but think in hindsight, we should of kept Liam Kelly. Yes he wouldn't of played, but feel his presence would of helped and at the end of the day, we can always offer a coaching pathway to try and get some to stay.
Amazing what it can do for them. Yeah I think back to Gyokeres / Gus and those chants, they loved it.Also on the chant, who would of thought getting behind the players would breed confidence and a higher work rate rather than just calling them names. Again guilty of it, but think that was a big part of the 21/22 and 22/23 togetherness around the team and the fans.
Think in regards to Godden and Faz, we had to let them go. They asked for it and they had done so much for the club we owed it.Yeah, losing the likes of Kelly, Godden, Mcfadzean all at once. You've got to ask questions of recruitment there. I saw an interview with Eccles, where he was saying he is considered a senior member of the squad now. No, that for me isn't right. You need some seasoned pro's in there. How that wasn't addressed is beyond me.
Oh yeah definitely couldn't expect them to stay. The fact we didn't replace that experience is what baffled me.Think in regards to Godden and Faz, we had to let them go. They asked for it and they had done so much for the club we owed it.
Can’t expect current players to show loyalty if we can’t show it to players who have showed it to us.
But, Kelly should have been kept and more should have been done to try and keep what we had. Funny on Godden as feel his movement would be great with how we are trying to play.
You see on the last point I thought exactly the same against Plymouth. Thought Norman was in several times but we didn’t play the ball quick enough.Oh yeah definitely couldn't expect them to stay. The fact we didn't replace that experience is what baffled me.
I think any of them are as capable as Godden, now we are finally playing to their strengths. Playing the lone striker all season had been frustrating, and imo unfair on whoever was up top.
I also think after watching closely, one or two are guilty of overplaying, when they could easily slip someone in. Whether that's because they are interested in their own personal stats or not, only they will know. But once they start playing for each other, we will improve.
This applies to basically all our forwards across many, many games. This stretches back to last season, Wright and particularly Simms had made a run and could have been found with a relatively simple pass but weren't.You see on the last point I thought exactly the same against Plymouth. Thought Norman was in several times but we didn’t play the ball quick enough.
He was also played in for a beautiful one on one with the keeper and fluffed a golden chance to put us 2-0 up which may well of changed the way the game panned out.You see on the last point I thought exactly the same against Plymouth. Thought Norman was in several times but we didn’t play the ball quick enough.
I think / hope most of this is down so players trying to prove themselves to firstly fans and then Lampard, even though the two are not necessarily mutually inclusive. Trying to get a player to understand, a massive contribution to rather than, the scoring of a, goal is needed.Yeah I see this every game. Last year too. Then I see the likes of Simms and Wright getting called 'Lazy', "he just doesn't do anything', 'no movement' etc etc. I'm thinking I'm going mad and people are not watching the same games as I am.
Twice, Rudoni could've slipped Simms in against Millwall away, instead, kept running with the ball into 4 or 5 players and lost possession.
Same with Norman against Plymouth, even though we won 4-0, its still frustrating to see them reluctant to slip them in. Really simple easy passes too. It just leads me to question their intentions. If Lampard can get them playing for each other, we are going places.
Yeah, he definitely is very raw. Great enthusiasm and it's clear he has ability and potential. His minutes need to be managed, or he is at risk of becoming a boo boy with some of our 'fans'.He was also played in for a beautiful one on one with the keeper and fluffed a golden chance to put us 2-0 up which may well of changed the way the game panned out.
He also makes a lot of runs into offside positions, which may explain the reluctance of some players to play him in early.
Hopefully that's just down to a lack of experience that will improve with time.
I really like his style and I can see why he's ahead of Simms at the moment, if he can get a few more goals his confidence will rocket.
Another factor of being young and possibly naive. Hopefully, this is where the new coaching staff come in.I think / hope most of this is down so players trying to prove themselves to firstly fans and then Lampard, even though the two are not necessarily mutually inclusive. Trying to get a player to understand, a massive contribution to rather than, the scoring of a, goal is needed.
His minutes definitely need managing, and there's an argument for giving Simms a bit more game time. I've wondered if Lamps might even try 2 up front and play Simms and Bassette together, It's an option if EMC is Injured. That would be a real handful for defenders.Yeah, he definitely is very raw. Great enthusiasm and it's clear he has ability and potential. His minutes need to be managed, or he is at risk of becoming a boo boy with some of our 'fans'.
Do you think he would be better coming on against tired legs here and there? I think they do need to switch up who starts and who finishes the games, mainly for the management of the player but also now because our style has changed.
I like the midfielders getting more involved, Torp so unlucky not to come away with a couple of goals against Plymouth. He's someone I would love to see taking more shots on, he's got it in his locker.
Bassette was very greedy and ran into trouble more than once.Yeah I see this every game. Last year too. Then I see the likes of Simms and Wright getting called 'Lazy', "he just doesn't do anything', 'no movement' etc etc. I'm thinking I'm going mad and people are not watching the same games as I am.
Twice, Rudoni could've slipped Simms in against Millwall away, instead, kept running with the ball into 4 or 5 players and lost possession.
Same with Norman against Plymouth, even though we won 4-0, its still frustrating to see them reluctant to slip them in. Really simple easy passes too. It just leads me to question their intentions. If Lampard can get them playing for each other, we are going places.
I would like to see this actually. Wright and Simms proved a handful at times last season and developed a good understanding. No harm in trying it.His minutes definitely need managing, and there's an argument for giving Simms a bit more game time. I've wondered if Lamps might even try 2 up front and play Simms and Bassette together, It's an option if EMC is Injured. That would be a real handful for defenders.
Possibly like Fernando was saying, eagerness to impress and being so raw. He will learn I'm sure.Bassette was very greedy and ran into trouble more than once.
That was quite ambitious from Torp, nearly crept in but one thing done correctly from their keeper, looked in all the way?Yeah, he definitely is very raw. Great enthusiasm and it's clear he has ability and potential. His minutes need to be managed, or he is at risk of becoming a boo boy with some of our 'fans'.
Do you think he would be better coming on against tired legs here and there? I think they do need to switch up who starts and who finishes the games, mainly for the management of the player but also now because our style has changed.
I like the midfielders getting more involved, Torp so unlucky not to come away with a couple of goals against Plymouth. He's someone I would love to see taking more shots on, he's got it in his locker.
I was out of my seat, thought it was in. So unlucky. The free kick moved a bit too. Any time a shot falls to Sheaf or whoever, I think why couldn't that have been Torp. He's definitely the one I'd like to see getting into those positions outside the box.That was quite ambitious from Torp, nearly crept in but one thing done correctly from their keeper, looked in all the way?
At Rotherham away last season the Commentators were saying how poor he had been previously and how surprised they were he was even playing in the Championship. Adi said it was his ability to listen, learn and a will to improve that made the difference. He kept giving away goals and penalties at first, but then got better and better until he reached that tipping point that old age means it is all over.Easier said than done I reckon. Fadz was quality, and I’m not sure how we managed to get him in league 1. God knows what he was like when he was more mobile.
Think Stamenic is not getting much game time in Greece. Possibly a good financial move but not the best career move.Agreed that’s this forum can get toxic in a bad patch, not all our players have been poor purchases or a waste money. Look at how the script has flipped on EMC since Lampard took over.
We clearly had more money in the pot for Jan. We agreed to sign that Stamenic, we’re chasing Burnley-bound Sonne and as you mentioned, a few other players.
That doesn’t scream King panicking because the Hamer and Vik fund has run dry. Far from it.
Lampard has elite coaches around him and his own record is probably the best we could’ve got and you can see that we look like a better outfit under him.
As soon as we can shore up our defence, we’ll march up the table because we’re free-scoring even without our top scorer and talisman in Wright.
Plenty of reason to remain optimistic and hoping we make some good moves in the transfer window!
Unfortunately they all reached past their sell by date at the same time. As several posters have observed, the lack of experienced replacements has left us wanting. Looking at Robins previous transfer policy history, I honestly can't believe it was his decision to completely change our previous successful template.Think in regards to Godden and Faz, we had to let them go. They asked for it and they had done so much for the club we owed it.
Can’t expect current players to show loyalty if we can’t show it to players who have showed it to us.
But, Kelly should have been kept and more should have been done to try and keep what we had. Funny on Godden as feel his movement would be great with how we are trying to play.
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