Takeover Scenario (1 Viewer)

ICHAN · Dec 7, 2011

Seeing as talk off a takeover (possible) is about investors, could we have another sisu scenario?

Now I know this would mean the end and see the back of sisu could we not find ourselves back in the same position a few years down the line?

Is Hoffman only bringing/introducing investors and then actually have no part of what happens once and if the takeover happens.

Not being a damp squib just looking into the possibilities of what could happen still want sisu out naturally.

On a side note could an investor be souness? he has wanted to get into football for years and if my fading memory serves me right was he not interested before sisu took us over.

kg82 · Dec 7, 2011

2 things out of that made me laugh! 1st - damp squid!! And second was Souness trying to get into football!! I'm not being condescending by the way, just made me laugh thinking about Souness trying to get into football - thought he'd been in for years!!

Anyway, sorry about that! Regarding this apparent takeover, it's confusing me. News coming from inside the club is they are open to "investment". But Hoffman's group are surely looking at a takeover? Investment says to me SISU are looking to stay but want somebody to basically fund the club?

The other thing is, this person who is apparently involved with Hoffman is a billionaire (my sceptical side is raring to come out), telling me it wouldn't be Souness.

EleanorRigby · Dec 7, 2011

Souness was on radio with Richard Keys today ?? and don't believe for one minute Gary Hoffman will introduce people then sit back and think of England, he is just not being the Ken Bates look i'm a chairman type. But lets give the bloke credit with his business accumen he ain't going to introduce fly-by-nights. He loves the City as much as any fan

ICHAN · Dec 7, 2011

You cynic you
Glad I made you at least laugh kg but you know what I mean about souness he has wanted to own a club for years.
People are saying investors some are saying just 1 person a billionaire.

Could the sisu thing be they are being told what to say by the potential new owners so as to play everything down to the media as they do not want the same case of what happened last time this time around and so are doing a play on words so to speak?

ICHAN · Dec 7, 2011

Was meant to be is hoffman in the opening thread not hoffman is. (will edit this for you eleanor )

These were just questions and not accusations about any said parties and just scenarios to discuss.

EleanorRigby · Dec 7, 2011

Don't underestimate Graeme Souness one of his biggest buddies is a bloke called McDermott ( not his ex-teamate either}, can't think of his first name might be Brian, richest man in Ireland i believe.

cloughie · Dec 7, 2011

ICHAN said:
You cynic you

Could the sisu thing be they are being told what to say by the potential new owners so as to play everything down to the media as they do not want the same case of what happened last time this time around and so are doing a play on words so to speak?

ICHAN you don't really beleive this do you? We are all clutching at straws but....

ICHAN · Dec 7, 2011

Was not underestimating him at all, just that if keys has introduced some of the people to sisu along with hoffman it just adds up to me that he would be somewhere in this seeing as he has tried before to get into ownership of a club and ours particularly in the past.
Niall Quinn has done it why not him?

ICHAN · Dec 7, 2011

cloughie said:
ICHAN you don't really beleive this do you? We are all clutching at straws but....

Just throwing it out there cloughie not saying I beleive this just ideas.

kg82 · Dec 7, 2011

I know ICHAN, just made me laugh!

I'm worried about this takeover to be honest. From all the talk it seems a bit too good (if it is the billionaire thing) and you know when you just have that immense doubt about things (like with everything sky blue)? Well, I have that!

ICHAN · Dec 7, 2011

Like to bring a smile on faces.

Thing is there has just been to many rumours lately and if someone did actually know something for real everyone is so suspicious because we do support ccfc and are so used to false dawns and being let down.

kg82 · Dec 7, 2011

That's just it, all rumours at the moment, but like you say, a lot of them. It's hard not to be taken in by it a bit and the state the team and the club in general is in, it's even harder to not clutch at straws.

Regis87 · Dec 7, 2011

"Don't underestimate Graeme Souness one of his biggest buddies is a bloke called McDermott ( not his ex-teamate either}, can't think of his first name might be Brian, richest man in Ireland i believe"

What Brian McDermott the baldy Reading manager !

georgehudson · Dec 7, 2011

the bits i've heard all hinge on how 'the mob' can explain / dupe, their investors,
i know it's getting ludicrously complicated,
& that i believe is due to the historic crass ineptitude exhibited by 'the mob',
effectively s*su & their alter ego's, are a 'busted flush',
but will grasp at everything,
so very, very, sad,

PUSB

Wrenstreetcarpark · Dec 7, 2011

The reality is that there is no takeover in the near future. SISU have not moved, their position is the same, they want new investors NOT to be replaced. They have not changed the control Onye Igwe is still there, sure some have moved but the fundementals remain the same. There has been no movement on ACL. Lots of noise, not from them, lots of change, not of them. All change, stand still. Its like the optical illusion, when did you see the bear? You didn't, but it was there. SISU using puppets like Clarke give the illusion of change, of movement, but there is none. Hoffman is still nowhere. Keys is just a mouth trying to be relevant, but actually a dead duck. Where we are now is where we are: no takeover in the 'off(man)ing, SISU in total control, keeping quiet and letting the noise pass them by. If they need to nudge it they put up Clarke, a nobody and nothing, to flap the air so that there is a pretence of action. Nothing has changed the stranglehold of SISU still grips the club round the throat.

Grendel · Dec 7, 2011

Wrenstreetcarpark said:
The reality is that there is no takeover in the near future. SISU have not moved, their position is the same, they want new investors NOT to be replaced. They have not changed the control Onye Igwe is still there, sure some have moved but the fundementals remain the same. There has been no movement on ACL. Lots of noise, not from them, lots of change, not of them. All change, stand still. Its like the optical illusion, when did you see the bear? You didn't, but it was there. SISU using puppets like Clarke give the illusion of change, of movement, but there is none. Hoffman is still nowhere. Keys is just a mouth trying to be relevant, but actually a dead duck. Where we are now is where we are: no takeover in the 'off(man)ing, SISU in total control, keeping quiet and letting the noise pass them by. If they need to nudge it they put up Clarke, a nobody and nothing, to flap the air so that there is a pretence of action. Nothing has changed the stranglehold of SISU still grips the club round the throat.

A very accurate summary of a very desparate situation. SISU are going nowhere until they get what they see as a fair return. Otherwise they will continue to run the club down in a bid to make it revenue positive as they are only interested in increasing asset value. All the more reason for getting the boycott to be a success. We need national awareness of the plight. Outside Coventry nobody seems aware at all of the problems. I have many associates away from Coventry who are all surprised at how poor our league position is but no awareness of the owners and issues. Shouting SISU out in the ground ultimately will achieve nothing. Deliue's nonsense comments are in my opinion deliberate to show contempt for supporters and to try and demonstrate that SISU are in charge and are going nowhere. This has to change but will take monumental effort and commitment.

SkyBlueScottie · Dec 7, 2011

EleanorRigby said:
Souness was on radio with Richard Keys today ?? and don't believe for one minute Gary Hoffman will introduce people then sit back and think of England, he is just not being the Ken Bates look i'm a chairman type. But lets give the bloke credit with his business accumen he ain't going to introduce fly-by-nights. He loves the City as much as any fan

So he had nothing to do with the Sisu reign?

Robccfc87 · Dec 7, 2011

You don't want to be a damp squid???!!!

EleanorRigby · Dec 7, 2011

SkyBlueScottie said:
So he had nothing to do with the Sisu reign?

Who are you on about ?

speedgun79 · Dec 7, 2011

Does this mean Souness could be the next manager? Could do worse than him. Any change would be good!

Grendel · Dec 7, 2011

speedgun79 said:
Does this mean Souness could be the next manager? Could do worse than him. Any change would be good!

Steady on...

ICHAN · Dec 7, 2011

Robccfc87 said:
You don't want to be a damp squid???!!!

Guess you've never heard of being a damp squid then rob?
It's kind of putting a dampner on something, killjoy etc.
As for souness being the next manager,wouldn't have thought so but he has tried to buy us and other clubs in the past though, so would not be surprised if he did have his fingers in the pot somewhere IF there is a takeover challenge going to be made.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · Dec 7, 2011

Robccfc87 said:
You don't want to be a damp squid???!!!

...or squib even. Squids are wet. Like SISU

georgehudson · Dec 7, 2011

it's 'damp squib' as in a firework that fails to impress

kg82 · Dec 7, 2011

ICHAN said:
Guess you've never heard of being a damp squid then rob?
It's kind of putting a dampner on something, killjoy etc.
As for souness being the next manager,wouldn't have thought so but he has tried to buy us and other clubs in the past though, so would not be surprised if he did have his fingers in the pot somewhere IF there is a takeover challenge going to be made.

Oh ICHAN, that was one of things I was laughing at!! Mainly because squids are always damp! But also because it's damp squib...

kg82 · Dec 7, 2011

Sorry, I didn't mean to rub that in either - those posts above were not there when I started writing!

Jack Griffin · Dec 7, 2011

I think the statement by Clarke says SISU are not standing aside, but are willing to let other people risk putting money in and take the losses if that finance doesn't work.
Forget Souness & Keys, SISU will not negotiate a 'hostile takeover', when they sell they will have got their money out, somehow.

kg82 · Dec 7, 2011

kg82 said:
Sorry, I didn't mean to rub that in either - those posts above were not there when I started writing!

Do not feel disheartened though... You are not alone:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...-The-top-10-misquoted-phrases-in-Britain.html

ICHAN · Dec 7, 2011

No problems kg never wanted to be perfect anyway (not aimed at anyone ) and I like squid, no wonder people looked at me weird if I ever used the saying.
Right I am going to change it and then that will really baffle anyone who reads this thread who hasn't read it already.
To myself.ointlaugh:.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · Dec 7, 2011

ICHAN said:
No problems kg never wanted to be perfect anyway (not aimed at anyone ) and I like squid, no wonder people looked at me weird if I ever used the saying.
Right I am going to change it and then that will really baffle anyone who reads this thread who hasn't read it already.
To myself.ointlaugh:.

Fair play

kg82 · Dec 7, 2011

ICHAN said:
No problems kg never wanted to be perfect anyway (not aimed at anyone ) and I like squid, no wonder people looked at me weird if I ever used the saying.
Right I am going to change it and then that will really baffle anyone who reads this thread who hasn't read it already.
To myself.ointlaugh:.

I love squid! Barbecued! With chips... DAMNIT, I'm hungry now

ICHAN · Dec 7, 2011

Never take myself serious Sir Digby Chicken Caesar if you can't take the piss out of yourself or have the piss taken out of you then don't take the piss out of others.

ICHAN · Dec 8, 2011

Didn't we have a conversation about desserts the other day KG?
Calamari YUM YUM.

kg82 · Dec 8, 2011

ICHAN said:
Didn't we have a conversation about desserts the other day KG?
Calamari YUM YUM.

We may well have done! But any conversation that turns to food is fine by me!

Robccfc87 · Dec 8, 2011

ICHAN said:
No problems kg never wanted to be perfect anyway (not aimed at anyone ) and I like squid, no wonder people looked at me weird if I ever used the saying.
Right I am going to change it and then that will really baffle anyone who reads this thread who hasn't read it already.
To myself.ointlaugh:.

Apology accepted!!

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