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  • Start date Oct 16, 2023
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edgy

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  • Oct 17, 2023
  • #36
Sky Blue Pete said:
I hear that lots I’m really not sure it’s not an excuse to act like a twat
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It is though, because their god(s) and/or beliefs tell them that. In their heads it's perfectly acceptable or even encouraged to murder innocent people.

It's not an excuse, it's a belief.
 

skybluecam

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  • Oct 17, 2023
  • #37
Would be nice if they agreed to replay it in Sweden or something and give the proceeds to the victim’s families.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Oct 17, 2023
  • #38
edgy said:
It is though, because their god(s) and/or beliefs tell them that. In their heads it's perfectly acceptable or even encouraged to murder innocent people.

It's not an excuse, it's a belief.
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9 times out of 10 if you scratch the surface it's land or oil or minerals that's really been fought over.
 
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edgy

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  • Oct 17, 2023
  • #39
clint van damme said:
9 times out of 10 if you scratch the surface it's land or oil or minerals that's really been fought over.
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Maybe for the higher ranking leaders of terror organisations. They want the money involved to increase their power. But the minions carrying out the atrocities, they are doing so because they have been radicalised from birth by extremes of a religion.
 
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Macca

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  • Oct 17, 2023
  • #40
Jews hate Muslims, Muslims hate Jews. Large amounts of both think this allows them to slaughter each other. I'd rather not get in the crossfire.
 
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hinckley cov

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  • Oct 17, 2023
  • #41
Macca said:
Jews hate Muslims, Muslims hate Jews. Large amounts of both think this allows them to slaughter each other. I'd rather not get in the crossfire.
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Muslims think no other religion but theirs should exist.
 
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rob9872

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  • Oct 17, 2023
  • #42
hinckley cov said:
Muslims think no other religion but theirs should exist.
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Isn't that true of all religions, just that some are more tolerant?
 
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Otis

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  • Oct 17, 2023
  • #43
rob9872 said:
Isn't that true of all religions, just that some are more tolerant?
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Yup. I think they pretty much all talk of one God and their god being the only God.
 

Joy Division

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  • Oct 17, 2023
  • #44
hinckley cov said:
Muslims think no other religion but theirs should exist.
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Which particular Muslims, you mean like all of them?
 
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GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee

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  • Oct 17, 2023
  • #45
Joy Division said:
Which particular Muslims, you mean like all of them?
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Not like there has ever been any wars between Sunni's and Shia's or anything... all think exactly the same.
 

Irish Sky Blue

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  • Oct 17, 2023
  • #46
edgy said:
It is though, because their god(s) and/or beliefs tell them that. In their heads it's perfectly acceptable or even encouraged to murder innocent people.

It's not an excuse, it's a belief.r as I am
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The problem isnt the religion, it is the way that men ( and it is almost exclusively men) interpret and twist things in a way that was never part of any religion’s philosophy. As far as I aware most world religions would have a creed of kindness, tolerance and respect for others.
It’s people (mostly men) who are responsible for the atrocities that go on, done in the name of their religion or their god but in reality for their own twisted or evil purposes.
 
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Otis

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  • Oct 17, 2023
  • #47
Irish Sky Blue said:
The problem isnt the religion, it is the way that men ( and it is almost exclusively men) interpret and twist things in a way that was never part of any religion’s philosophy. As far as I aware most world religions would have a creed of kindness, tolerance and respect for others.
It’s people (mostly men) who are responsible for the atrocities that go on, done in the name of their religion or their god but in reality for their own twisted or evil purposes.
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Men wrote the religious scriptures for men.

You are right in some ways re the kindness and respect etc, but women were always second class citizens in the ancient scriptures.

Man's servant pretty much.
 

Terry_dactyl

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  • Oct 17, 2023
  • #48
Otis said:
Yup. I think they pretty much all talk of one God and their god being the only God.
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Isn’t Islam/Judaism/Christianity the same god?
 
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clint van damme

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  • Oct 17, 2023
  • #49
GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee said:
Not like there has ever been any wars between Sunni's and Shia's or anything... all think exactly the same.
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Catholics and protestants have always got on famously of course and never forced Christianity on anyone!
 
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clint van damme

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  • Oct 17, 2023
  • #50
Terry_dactyl said:
Isn’t Islam/Judaism/Christianity the same god?
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Abrahamic religions.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 17, 2023
  • #51
Terry_dactyl said:
Isn’t Islam/Judaism/Christianity the same god?
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Yes all Abrahamic faiths
 
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fatso

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  • Oct 17, 2023
  • #52
Greggs said:
Same mate. Can't be many unspoiled places left on this planet. Japan perhaps?
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Do you mean countries with no Muslims?
 

the rumpo kid

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  • Oct 17, 2023
  • #53
I believe in God but not religion!
All religion is a form of controlling the masses .
All religion is about collecting money power and influence.
Do as I say or God will be angry.

Tell you what I'll do as I say and take my chances with God.!
 

clint van damme

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  • Oct 17, 2023
  • #54
hinckley cov said:
Muslims think no other religion but theirs should exist.
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That's not what Islam teaches, same as Christianity doesn't teach a lot of the shit that's been carried out in its name, as Irish sky blue said,its humans that are the problem.

It's the same with political ideogies.
 
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fatso

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  • Oct 17, 2023
  • #55
Otis said:
Men wrote the religious scriptures for men.

You are right in some ways re the kindness and respect etc, but women were always second class citizens in the ancient scriptures.

Man's servant pretty much.
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Jews would argue that, it was God who gave the 10 commandments and the Torah to man.
 
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SBT

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  • Oct 17, 2023
  • #56
fatso said:
Do you mean countries with no Muslims?
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I think he means countries without cunts, which rules out any countries where people are saying stuff like your post.

Mental how much outright and open racism/religious hatred there’s been on this forum the past week
 
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fatso

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  • Oct 17, 2023
  • #57
SBT said:
I think he means countries without cunts, which rules out any countries where people are saying stuff like your post.

Mental how much outright and open racism/religious hatred there’s been on this forum the past week
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Fuck sake, calm down, I only asked a question ffs.
 

ccfc1234

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  • Oct 17, 2023
  • #58
Otis said:
Yup. I think they pretty much all talk of one God and their god being the only God.
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I am not a theologian but I find it insanely sad that most major religions believe in the concept of a god but some will kill each other while arguing over how we get there.
 

skyblueeyesrevisited

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  • Oct 17, 2023
  • #59
Irish Sky Blue said:
The problem isnt the religion, it is the way that men ( and it is almost exclusively men) interpret and twist things in a way that was never part of any religion’s philosophy. As far as I aware most world religions would have a creed of kindness, tolerance and respect for others.
It’s people (mostly men) who are responsible for the atrocities that go on, done in the name of their religion or their god but in reality for their own twisted or evil purposes.
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Calm down dear and put the kettle on
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 17, 2023
  • #60
Needs moving to off topic this
 

clint van damme

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  • Oct 17, 2023
  • #61
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Needs moving to off topic this
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Spot the school teacher!

I don't care if the worlds on fire boy, that thread is in the wrong sub forum, get it moved!
 
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NortonSkyBlue

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  • Oct 17, 2023
  • #62
hinckley cov said:
Muslims think no other religion but theirs should exist.
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That comment couldn’t be further from the truth. Islam is a peaceful religion interpreted in different ways just like any other. As said above me it’s men that do things in the name of religion but scratch the surface evil is in all societies, just that this particular issue is Muslim and Jewish. Having lived amongst them for 8 years we would be a much kinder society if we lived by their rules.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 17, 2023
  • #63
clint van damme said:
Spot the school teacher!

I don't care if the worlds on fire boy, that thread is in the wrong sub forum, get it moved!
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We’ll have less of that from Clint at the back too, your name’s going on the board.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 17, 2023
  • #64
NortonSkyBlue said:
That comment couldn’t be further from the truth. Islam is a peaceful religion interpreted in different ways just like any other. As said above me it’s men that do things in the name of religion but scratch the surface evil is in all societies, just that this particular issue is Muslim and Jewish. Having lived amongst them for 8 years we would be a much kinder society if we lived by their rules.
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Islam literally means peace
 
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Macca

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  • Oct 17, 2023
  • #65
Islam is indeed a peaceful religion but the extremist interpretation is attractive to young disaffected men in the same way a gang is. One could say more macho than joining Doris for communion and scones
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 17, 2023
  • #66
SBT said:
I think he means countries without cunts, which rules out any countries where people are saying stuff like your post.

Mental how much outright and open racism/religious hatred there’s been on this forum the past week
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It's always been here. Don't wanna speak for him but hill83 doesn't post about it anymore cos he sees it as useless I believe.
 

San Francisco

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  • Oct 17, 2023
  • #67
NortonSkyBlue said:
That comment couldn’t be further from the truth. Islam is a peaceful religion interpreted in different ways just like any other. As said above me it’s men that do things in the name of religion but scratch the surface evil is in all societies, just that this particular issue is Muslim and Jewish. Having lived amongst them for 8 years we would be a much kinder society if we lived by their rules.
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Sky Blue Pete said:
Islam literally means peace
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Otis

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  • Oct 17, 2023
  • #68
Terry_dactyl said:
Isn’t Islam/Judaism/Christianity the same god?
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You would think so wouldn't you.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 17, 2023
  • #69
San Francisco said:
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It actually literally means submit
 
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stevefloyd

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  • Oct 18, 2023
  • #70
In the ficticious world where a secret mystical entity overlooks the earth theres the 'servants' that preach their various religions and if you give them money it will make your life here or the after life sooo much better although that has never been proved for various reasons, in the meantime the ficticious entities hand down all the various diseases and hatred towards fellow men and women after making the various servants of each fictitious entity richer, this to me is religion and maybe deep deep down inside of me theres a very small percentage of believing but seeing is believing and as no one on earth has ever managed to prove 100% that these entities are real I shall err to the side of what a load of vicious crap it all is !
 
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