Let's say SISU pack up and leave and we become fan owned and offered sustainability by living within our means. How would the supporters react to that? Would season tickets sold and attendance increase/decrease? Would the people who won't buy tickets because we've had no success/little investment etc in the playing squad still not buy tickets? Or would SISU being gone be enough to get them back?
I don't agree Ian. If we had come back to the Ricoh and SISU had sold up I think the attendance would have been higher for a lot longer.
Let's say we ask you to explain how you breezily assume we can be "fan owned " before we indulge you any further.
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It seems like a theoretical situation being put forward, not an assumption? Are these now not allowed to be debated?
Because it's not even theoretical as there is absolutely no likelihood of fan ownership given our current fanbase.
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A lot of theoretical situations are unrealistic.
I believe false promises and crap owners have made us fickle. If we had decent owners we would have fans like Southampton or Norwich
I believe false promises and crap owners have made us fickle. If we had decent owners we would have fans like Southampton or Norwich
No we wouldn'tI believe false promises and crap owners have made us fickle. If we had decent owners we would have fans like Southampton or Norwich
I believe false promises and crap owners have made us fickle. If we had decent owners we would have fans like Southampton or Norwich
Or, If we had decent fans then we might have decent owners.
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You could always fuck off. That'd bring the average up a bit
I probably worded my question wrong but I meant in an entirely hypothetical scenario of us being an open, well run, community focused club* but with little hope of progress, would this see our support increase or decrease vs the current situation and struggling to sell 5000 season tickets
(* Dear Andreas, I know that we will not become a fan owned club but they are traits I associate with fan ownership. Love, Eso xx)
Owners are completely irrelevant despite what all the mouth breathers on here would tell you. Sustained success the only ticket generator...and that's not even guaranteed at this club.
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Our fan base has been fickle as long as I can remember...
Mmm...Southampton didn't have decent owners at one point but their support stayed with them. Same with Leeds.
The Philosopher Martin Fry once said: Excuses have their uses, but they're all used up, all used up.
Some people just seem to love to run down the people of this City and county. Is their something in the genes of people around here that make them more fickle than anywhere else in the country? As I mentioned on another thread, in terms of win ratios, we are probably the least successful team in the league over the last forty five years. Give the people of the area something to shout about and they will come back. Having supported this club for nearly fifty years, I know that this is true. Look at gates in Jimmy Hills first half season in charge to what they were when he really got us going.We averaged 25k during the Fergie and Wallace season. People returned before and after the cup win. When Ron Atkinson took over there was an immediate up turn in gates. Supporters here are the same as anywhere else, a little bit of hope, a little bit of success and they will return.I love this club, it is a big part of my life. I will always go. Some people for various reasons aren't or can't be as committed as this. Support does go up and down. In Man.Utd.'s relegation season their crowds went down to 25k. That season they were shocking. Alex Stepney, their keeper was leading scorer with 2 or 3 pens. A large percentage of their fans stopped going. Look on You Tube. There is great footage on their of a City away win that season with huge gaps on the Old Trafford terrace.They were promoted the following season and had a full house for most games. There are always ups and downs depending on how a club is doing. I remember listening to 606 a few years ago when a United "fan" from somewhere in Surrey phoned up to complain about their defeat to a lower league team in a cup competition. The gist of his argument was that he hadn't bought his Sky subscription to see "his" team losing to the likes of, I think it was Bournemouth. He was going to cancel his subscription! Now he is fickle!
Can I also say that there is a difference between criticising Sisu and criticising the club. The club is the entity that carries on ( hopefully) for ever in spite, sometimes, of the owners that are there. Sisu are simply an organisation that have attached themselves to our club. Sometime in the future they will be gone. For all those who say be careful for what you wish, or it is only Sisu money that is keeping us afloat, there are enough people who care about this club to make sure it survives short term which will give it the chance to flourish in the future.
Rant over!
In my opinion. The only time this may happen would be if SISU were paid compensation that. Hit a bit chunk into their loses and restored their business reputation.
Say 30 million.
Then I think they could walk away and say to the business world we were legally wronged by the council. Hence it was the council's fault what happened with Coventry investment. Not bad business decisions or investment by ourselves. I think then they would sell the club for any price and rightly walk away. It is what I would do if I were them.
However to be honest if that happened I would not expect fan ownership.
I would expect new owners.
Owners are completely irrelevant despite what all the mouth breathers on here would tell you. Sustained success the only ticket generator...and that's not even guaranteed at this club.
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Oh look back onto your favourite topic again.
Let's say SISU pack up and leave and we become fan owned and offered sustainability by living within our means. How would the supporters react to that? Would season tickets sold and attendance increase/decrease? Would the people who won't buy tickets because we've had no success/little investment etc in the playing squad still not buy tickets? Or would SISU being gone be enough to get them back?
Well said Irish
It's that negative self perpetuating tripe.
We have special water here in Coventry that makes you a fickle fan. Harsh really because if you were born just 30 miles away you would be a super fan. Hey ho that life
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