Evo1883
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Just seen this , well I don't know what to say that's poor really .. did he throw Sheila under the bus too ?
Just seen this , well I don't know what to say that's poor really .. did he throw Sheila under the bus too ?He stated that the standard of coaching wasn’t good enough, I was in the room and could see that he thought he’d fucked up with the way he answered that question and then backtracked.
Really wouldn’t surprise me to see a few of them out the door in the next couple of weeks.
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I could see Wright and Milan 100%. Hard to tell on the rest as either still developing or seem to have serious flaws in there game which we have failed to improve onhamer made it in the prem. he was one of their only good players
So again, how many of our players will make it in the prem?
Spending 40 mill you should hope a few could/would
Haji Wrightagain
we’ve spent 40mill and you can’t name one player who could make it in the prem
speaks volumes
He did sort of say thatI wish King had just been honest and just said the results have not been good enough in his opinion.
Sorry just posted my answer. It would be Milan and Haji. The rest I think could with coaching to get rid of issues in their games.again
we’ve spent 40mill and you can’t name one player who could make it in the prem
speaks volumes
I think tonight really showed that there is an awful lot that goes on behind the scenes of a football club that usually never sees the light of day.
My takeaways from tonight:
Doug King backed “the team” of Mark and Ady, and was basically acting as marriage councillor when they fell out for whatever reason, seemingly beginning after the Wolves game?. Ultimately didnt work in keeping them together and so backed the manager.
Robins was the main proponent of the flat coaching structure which appears behind the scenes has not gone down well with players and isnt the elite structure that DK wants in place, but he went along with it initially
Robins was effectively told to sort it out and recruit a head coach to work underneath him but above the other coaches (i think this is the bit that needs the most clarity) but couldnt or didnt put anyone infront of king (i suspect here that Marks stubbornness meant he didnt want anyone)
I think the Chris Ramsey thing came too little too late, maybe Robins grew nervous after the poor start and then tried to 180 but by then the conversations or thoughts about sacking him had started and so they werent going to commit at that point to a new person into the coaching set up.
If Robins & Viveash were still together and on good terms and poor start happened, they wouldnt have been sacked because Doug trusted them both
But Robins and new coaches on their own werent trusted to turn it around.
The singular visions and expectations of this season was to clearly start strong and really have a go of it. They believe its the strongest squad we’ve ever had and that Robins and this coaching set up were at risk of squandering it.
On the face of it, it’s possible to see how all of that is true.
Yeah he did say that to be fairHe did sort of say that
He did a great job of telling us how fantastic a manager Mark Robins had been and that he didn't really have much option but to throw him under a bus, for the benefit of the club.
We were beating a spurs team up until 89th min a few months agohamer made it in the prem. he was one of their only good players
So again, how many of our players will make it in the prem?
Spending 40 mill you should hope a few could/would
Sorry just posted my answer. It would be Milan and Haji. The rest I think could with coaching to get rid of issues in their games.
On Wright wasn’t he a target for if we went up as think he was invited to Wembley by the club
Fair take on it allI think tonight really showed that there is an awful lot that goes on behind the scenes of a football club that usually never sees the light of day.
My takeaways from tonight:
Doug King backed “the team” of Mark and Ady, and was basically acting as marriage councillor when they fell out for whatever reason, seemingly beginning after the Wolves game?. Ultimately didnt work in keeping them together and so backed the manager.
Robins was the main proponent of the flat coaching structure which appears behind the scenes has not gone down well with players and isnt the elite structure that DK wants in place, but he went along with it initially
Robins was effectively told to sort it out and recruit a head coach to work underneath him but above the other coaches (i think this is the bit that needs the most clarity) but couldnt or didnt put anyone infront of king (i suspect here that Marks stubbornness meant he didnt want anyone)
I think the Chris Ramsey thing came too little too late, maybe Robins grew nervous after the poor start and then tried to 180 but by then the conversations or thoughts about sacking him had started and so they werent going to commit at that point to a new person into the coaching set up.
If Robins & Viveash were still together and on good terms and poor start happened, they wouldnt have been sacked because Doug trusted them both
But Robins and new coaches on their own werent trusted to turn it around.
The singular visions and expectations of this season was to clearly start strong and really have a go of it. They believe its the strongest squad we’ve ever had and that Robins and this coaching set up were at risk of squandering it.
On the face of it, its possible to see how all of that is true.
That’s probably the best explanation of what he was trying to get across, but I still think some of it doesn’t make sense and is contradictory, and it is all rather convenient.I think tonight really showed that there is an awful lot that goes on behind the scenes of a football club that usually never sees the light of day.
My takeaways from tonight:
Doug King backed “the team” of Mark and Ady, and was basically acting as marriage councillor when they fell out for whatever reason, seemingly beginning after the Wolves game?. Ultimately didnt work in keeping them together and so backed the manager.
Robins was the main proponent of the flat coaching structure which appears behind the scenes has not gone down well with players and isnt the elite structure that DK wants in place, but he went along with it initially
Robins was effectively told to sort it out and recruit a head coach to work underneath him but above the other coaches (i think this is the bit that needs the most clarity) but couldnt or didnt put anyone infront of king (i suspect here that Marks stubbornness meant he didnt want anyone)
I think the Chris Ramsey thing came too little too late, maybe Robins grew nervous after the poor start and then tried to 180 but by then the conversations or thoughts about sacking him had started and so they werent going to commit at that point to a new person into the coaching set up.
If Robins & Viveash were still together and on good terms and poor start happened, they wouldnt have been sacked because Doug trusted them both
But Robins and new coaches on their own werent trusted to turn it around.
The singular visions and expectations of this season was to clearly start strong and really have a go of it. They believe its the strongest squad we’ve ever had and that Robins and this coaching set up were at risk of squandering it.
On the face of it, its possible to see how all of that is true.
Bombshell threw everything out
The lady who asked the first question after that was great and he didn’t answer as was the lad of here after
It wasn’t very fair of him to throw mr under the bus but I can’t believe how many in the room and on here were like oh well robins is the past and king is the future so thanks but we move on
I don’t really like him he’s arrogant and answers as if he knows everything when he clearly can’t know everything
That said he fronted up and didn’t do bad - he didn’t really answer the question of why
It seemed to be because his coaches aren’t good enough and results are going to get us relegated which doesn’t quite work
@Boicey why are you putting poo emoji on all my posts?
If you want to carry on, carry on, but I honestly don't give a fuck and you're not achieving anything.
Wouldn't it be better to try and debate your point?
Or maybe you've just got a faeces fetish.
We were beating a spurs team up until 89th min a few months ago
We beat wolves at their place last season
We came back to draw 3-3 against man utd.
This is all in our current shite form. These players can absolutely step up and do more and they should be. If MR couldn't motivate them to do so regularly then someone else has to.
The fact is that the potential this squad has is huge and they have underperformed and DK has told us his reasoning tonight for why that is. Time will tell if he's right or not
Confused on the wright bit. Understand he gets pelters but think he plays decent and is a big part why we are not in the bottom two.Lol
the same wright who gets pelters one week because he doesn’t look interested
I agree wright could step up but too inconsistent
Milan based on last season yes. This season no
so out of 40 mill spent we have two players with a combined total of 10 mill
so that’s 30 mill spunked up the wall
If 'made it' equates to playing one season ( and I rate Gus by the way) that is a low benchmark. Surprised nobody bought him to be honest. I think MVE could handle the PL, and possibly Haji Wright ( on a 'going' day). Promoted teams will always buy new players anyway (although Luton bought very few).hamer made it in the prem. he was one of their only good players
So again, how many of our players will make it in the prem?
Spending 40 mill you should hope a few could/would
Haji Wright
I respect Clint as generally comes across very well. Disagree with him perhaps with this seemingly anti king thing but honestly from you mate I don't believe a word you say. We're you part of the 9k box gang who were asked to pay the full 24k when King arrived?you think it’s a good trait to throw someone under the bus to save their face?
you think it’s a good trait to name drop a person about a job when king says he does all his business behind closed doors
so many gullible fans on here and in general
I hope I’m wrong but king is part of the problem
Hope I have egg on my face. I don’t think it’ll end well due his persona. robins worked with sisu and gave us our best times
let’s see if we get the same good times in the next 7 years
Well yeah, it’s not his job to sort out the coaching structure, that was MRs. Otherwise, he would be undermining him by interfering i.e. the very thing people were accusing King of in the first place!That’s probably the best explanation of what he was trying to get across, but I still think some of it doesn’t make sense and is contradictory, and it is all rather convenient.
washing his hands of any responsibility whatsoever.
If 'made it' equates to playing one season ( and I rate Gus by the way) that is a low benchmark. Surprised nobody bought him to be honest. I think MVE could handle the PL, and possibly Haji Wright ( on a 'going' day). Promoted teams will always buy new players anyway (although Luton bought very few).
Yeah they've failed to live up to that and DK has acted. I don't see the argument tbhwe lost to spurs 2nd team
We beat a wolves team that have won three times since we played them
We beat a United team that have been shite and since sacked their manager
our squad has been slated all season. Most of current crop have failed to live up to expectations and price tag
Ipswich got promoted and bought new players to replace their old team.so out of 40 mill spent. Only possibly 2 players could make the grade
that’s poor recruitment don’t you think?
Yeah they've failed to live up to that and DK has acted. I don't see the argument tbh
Stuff absolutely comes out of the club. Every club in the country.and people don’t believe stuff comes out the club makes me laugh
they are all human in the end
Ipswich got promoted and bought new players to replace their old team.
does that mean the players who got them promoted were bad recruitment?
Stuff absolutely comes out of the club. Every club in the country.
Would be interesting to look back and see your % conversion rate though…. Like saddlebrains its probably the poetic licence you apply to the things you hear that put people off
Also to add, i think Doug King is going to drag this club kicking and screaming to modern footballing professionalism in the structures and processes in place.
He talked today about Directors of football, heads of marketing and commercial. I think there is alot required to bring the club back from its knees off pitch. Interested to see and hear more about this in the future
5 players started for Ipswich Saturday that were there last year, and 1 was a loan they spent £20m on in the summerCheck how many players started for Ipswich that ended the season. the vast majority
Can’t disagree on the last statement. While I do think a bit more positivity on the squad, the lack of certain roles being filled (CM) worries me that our recruitment is a bit shiny shiny when it comes to certain rolesrecruitment has been poor
you can only coach players if they can improve
most of these players have had enough time to show improvement and we haven’t seen it
Dean Austin should have been held to account more about his recruitment record thus far
5 players started for Ipswich Saturday that were there last year, and 1 was a loan they spent £20m on in the summer
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