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Match Thread Supporter's Meeting with Doug King Match Thread (2 Viewers)

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skybluecam

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,121
GIMOC said:
open your eyes to it

lawernce was not offered a new contract but adi and robins were at the time

Lawerence left because of this. Incidentally interesting king said after the wolves game all wasn’t the same but no direct mention of Lawrence

in the summer the club were told while vivesh is there, some players won’t sign because of his methods and character

robins (imo) was pushed into a corner and saved his back by staying with the club while Adi was sacked

robins ignored adi all summer (imo because he felt guilty that he betrayed adi in some way)

for king to say robins dismantled the coaching setting up is misleading

again from tonight that king kept saying first team coach not assistant. So in theory king was the one pushing for that specific role not robins.

we all know that Ramsey was lined up and this was stopped by king.

king chose his words very wisely tonight but to suggest they (robins and adi) fell out over an article is bizarre
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What you're saying directly contradicts what King said.

According to King, Robins drove the sacking of Adi and King was against it.

You saying he's telling a complete lie?
 
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skybluegod

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,122
GIMOC said:
and if anyone wants context for that

all employees in the club are panicking now. coaches the lot

Austin probably didn’t want to attend tonihjt

the only person king praised was a person whose only been here 10 months
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Well that's a a bending of the words he said. He gave praise to Rhys Carr and Boateng but said that they needed an experienced tactician to oversee them.

Dempster and Delaney on the other hand might be at risk.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,123
"The Cov Pod" - "The CWR presenters did really well"

Fucking hell.
 
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GaryJones

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,124
Evo1883 said:
Dod doig king say mark was assigned the job of finding his own number 2 ?
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Yes - standard practise for a club manager that’s trusted by the owner.
 

TomRad85

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,125
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Sent from my SM-A536U using Tapatalk
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,126
BackRoomRummermill said:
I don’t think Robins will respond - he does not need to . He is held in high esteem across the football world and the last thing he needs is a legal wrangle
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I don't think any opposing fans would listen to tonight and believe King
 

bigfatronssba

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,127
Evo1883 said:
Well the fact solicitors are involved would suggest something much more sinister is at play .. not a simple fall out over a media quote
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Well it would be the cause for dismissal.

I've no idea how football contracts work, so I'm not going to pretend I know what I'm talking about here.

But if the reason for terminating his contract was because of a personal fall out, then Viveash could legitimately say it wasn't to do with his performance
 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,128
Nick said:
He blamed Robins for the coaching setup that's there, Robins was quoted as saying the same.
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I'm sure he blamed robins for the dismantling of the coaching setup , for wanting adi out , for results which he said at the start , for not getting a number 2 .

I'm not sure what he didn't blame Robins for
 
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GaryJones

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,129
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Not at all, I think many people expected to pelt Doug King because they had it in their minds it was him/his people that got rid of AV and then Robins.

As it happens, it was Robins who got rid of AV and wanted the much-maligned flat coaching setup.

Many people had decided it was Dr Roberts who was the evil genius behind this all. Which seems to be miles off the mark.
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Agree with this.
 

Evo1883

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,130
GaryJones said:
Yes - standard practise for a club manager that’s trusted by the owner.
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Sure but then said he didn't get one because all the best tactician they interviewed wanted to be a number 1 , which is definitely not the case as why would they apply
 
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bigfatronssba

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,131
Is anyone going to take up Doug's offer of a day a Ryton to see what Dr. Claire does?
 
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skybluegod

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,132
GIMOC said:
did I say strike?

I said sheaf was on the team sheet Friday night. Sheaf woke up Saturday morning and said he didn’t want to play

I never mentioned the word strike
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You are right you didn't say the word strike specifically. You said and I quote

'Refused to play'

You said Dovin was injured, why didn't you say Sheaf was injured, if we trust both Carr and Sheaf he was touch and go all the way up to the game, so it wasn't a last minute decision.
 

GIMOC

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,133
skybluegod said:
Well that's a a bending of the words he said. He gave praise to Rhys Carr and Boateng but said that they needed an experienced tactician to oversee them.

Dempster and Delaney on the other hand might be at risk.
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and they know they are at risk (as I said further up) a player has admitted coaching staff are inexperienced and worried about their futures

I don’t rate Delaney and if robins chose to promote him then he was wrong ro do so. our youth set up has been shocking since he joined
 

skyblueelephant76

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,134
GIMOC said:
did I say strike?

I said sheaf was on the team sheet Friday night. Sheaf woke up Saturday morning and said he didn’t want to play

I never mentioned the word strike
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You said he refused to play , so yes strike.
 
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Major Tom

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,135
One thing for sure you don’t take ownership of a club for the buzz and an easy time.

Bet King feels like it was a lifetime ago when he was being interviewed on national radio before the FA Cup semi final
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,136
Evo1883 said:
I'm sure he blamed robins for the dismantling of the coaching setup , for wanting adi out , for results which he said at the start , for not getting a number 2 .

I'm not sure what he didn't blame Robins for
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Robins said himself about the coaching setup, didn't he? I literally quoted him saying it and it was "He was just towing the line".
 
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GaryJones

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,137
Evo1883 said:
I'm sure he blamed robins for the dismantling of the coaching setup , for wanting adi out , for results which he said at the start , for not getting a number 2 .

I'm not sure what he didn't blame Robins for
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Robins was the manager - surely the buck stops with him.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,138
Perennial Lurker said:
Didn't like that one bit tonight ,I'm sorry but to put the blame on Robins for everything and take credit for the good isn't leadership .
King came across as incredibly egotistical and self indulged .
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I was expecting him to say basically anything besides ‘because he dismantled the coaching setup’. Incredibly divisive thing to say if it’s not true and perhaps even if it is.
 
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GIMOC

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,139
skybluegod said:
You are right you didn't say the word strike specifically. You said and I quote

'Refused to play'

You said Dovin was injured, why didn't you say Sheaf was injured, if we trust both Carr and Sheaf he was touch and go all the way up to the game, so it wasn't a last minute decision.
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dovin was never down to play Saturday. sheaf was
 

Evo1883

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,140
GaryJones said:
Robins was the manager - surely the buck stops with him.
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In regards to recruiting a number 2 ? I'm sure we heard the same thing ?
 
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Otis

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,141
bigfatronssba said:
Is anyone going to take up Doug's offer of a day a Ryton to see what Dr. Claire does?
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I'm hoping she could take a look at my sinuses.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,142
Nick said:
Robins said himself about the coaching setup, didn't he? I literally quoted him saying it and it was "He was just towing the line".
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Sure but doug blamed him for much more than just that which is what I said
 
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GaryJones

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,143
Evo1883 said:
Sure but then said he didn't get one because all the best tactician they interviewed wanted to be a number 1 , which is definitely not the case as why would they apply
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Interviewed by who though?
MR??
 

GIMOC

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,144
skyblueelephant76 said:
You said he refused to play , so yes strike.
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he woke up Saturday morning and said he didn’t wanna play. Didn’t say he was on strike

Sheaf was asked to do the media duties Friday and refused hence why Bidwell came in
 

skybluegod

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,145
GIMOC said:
dovin was never down to play Saturday. sheaf was
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Well done for avoiding the point.

I have given you praise previously for getting things right, but you do come out with bollocks sometimes and it's always negative.
 

pusbccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,146
Nick said:
Yeah he said Viveash was the tactician, he said that Robins "got found out"
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It all adds up really.

Robins has hinted at it before.
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,147
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I was expecting him to say basically anything besides ‘because he dismantled the coaching setup’. Incredibly divisive thing to say if it’s not true and perhaps even if it is.
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Could've used a million other soundbytes to move us on . The way he came out fighting ,for me , was disrespectful and contemptible
 

Domo

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,148
couple of things, never understood the claire roberts situation, can only assume is pure sexism, as if it was Dr Clive Roberts no one would bring it up.

King came across well, if all true, not sure ive ever heard, or will ever hear an exit interview quite like this before, it hasnt tarnished my opinion of MR, but it certainly give a bigger insight to the cogs within a professional FC.
 
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hill83

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,149
Nick said:
He blamed Robins for the coaching setup that's there, Robins was quoted as saying the same.
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STOP IT
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,150
Here’s a thought. What would the players think listening to that?
 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,151
GaryJones said:
Interviewed by who though?
MR??
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Well dougs words were all the best tvticians wanted to be a number 1 so I assumed he was involved ??
 

pusbccfc

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,152
Nick said:
"The Cov Pod" - "The CWR presenters did really well"

Fucking hell.
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Thought Gab Sutton had a few poor views as he clearly didn't listen to it all.
 
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Alkhen

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,153
Perennial Lurker said:
His version of the truth ?
Sorry that just says it all for me
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Opinions on how something played out, voiced by only one side are always going to challenged by the other. Doesn't make them definitively true or definitely false.. just one side of the story. But I will say it would be massively stupid of Doug to come out and say that stuff if he wasn't confident it's correct. Nobody expected him to be so candid so why would he lie if he didn't need to? He easily could have just said nothing
 
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Hiraeth

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,154
Mr Panda said:
Incredible what we've witnessed tonight if you think about it. What other manager sackings get this kind of transparency and bombshell moment?
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Agree but how many other manager sackings relate to a manager who has achieved as much as Mark Robins did at Coventry for as long as he had.

There was and probably still is a lot of passion for him personally and I can understand the desire to respond to that with a level of apparent transparency to try to defuse that passion.

I wouldn't accuse anyone of lying but think everything said should be taken with a pinch of salt, King is openly speaking his truth.

I appreciated what Adi did for the club but still not sure I agree that everything Mark achieved was solely due to that partnership or solely Adi himself.

Robins was successful in his first spell here at the club without Adi. I still believe he had the ability to turn this around and would have done so if given the chance.

I feel he had earned that chance after a period of unprecedented growth and success and whilst I disagree with the decision made, King appears to be hands on and I respect him for facing up to the outcry today.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,155
Grendel said:
The real issue of conjecture is why did Viveash get sacked and by who

If we knew that we’d know a lot about what subsequently happened
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I believe King when he said Robins instigated it.
There's a lot he said I don't believe but I believe that.
 
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