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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 16, 2022
  • #176
chiefdave said:
Doesn't the fact they had a replacement lined up, albeit one that fell though, not indicate that they had some idea he was going?
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Hmm, can still have somebody sold from beneath you, forward planning mean you at least know of options, but short time scale before deadline mean if options fail, you end up a man down.
 

AOM

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  • Sep 16, 2022
  • #177
chiefdave said:
Doesn't the fact they had a replacement lined up, albeit one that fell though, not indicate that they had some idea he was going?
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Fair point really. No idea how the scouting system works or if they might have options identified in that area already!
He hasn't sounded happy at all particularly about this transfer, but it has been made worse with not replacing
 

chiefdave

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  • Sep 16, 2022
  • #178
clint van damme said:
All clubs make bad signing. We dont appear to allow for it.
We don't appear to allow for injuries either. Madness in a year like this with periods of heavy fixture congestion as it was let alone with us losing games because no one at the club realised the pitch had turned to marzipan.
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its not that we don't allow for it, more that we don't have the budget for it. So we're back to the same thing, we're asking the owner to put money in with little chance of return, its not a case of sign one or two players for relatively small amounts and we're pushing for the Prem.

The gamble every year until they go will be how little they can put in and have us survive in this division, although in all honest I doubt they would lose any sleep if we were relegated.

There appears to be no exit strategy other than hope for the best so sadly until someone wins EuroMillions and makes a silly offer we're stuck with them and that mins they will look to minimise any money they need to put in, even if its just a short term loan to cover cashflow issues.

Biggest surprise is that this seems to have shocked some people who for unknown reasons were expecting signings and a serious push for promotion.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Sep 16, 2022
  • #179
chiefdave said:
its not that we don't allow for it, more that we don't have the budget for it. So we're back to the same thing, we're asking the owner to put money in with little chance of return, its not a case of sign one or two players for relatively small amounts and we're pushing for the Prem.

The gamble every year until they go will be how little they can put in and have us survive in this division, although in all honest I doubt they would lose any sleep if we were relegated.

There appears to be no exit strategy other than hope for the best so sadly until someone wins EuroMillions and makes a silly offer we're stuck with them and that mins they will look to minimise any money they need to put in, even if its just a short term loan to cover cashflow issues.

Biggest surprise is that this seems to have shocked some people who for unknown reasons were expecting signings and a serious push for promotion.
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I'd elaborate on the 'no exit strategy' and say there's no strategy.
Which is why they really should have sold last year.
The 10 year deal is being eaten away, its looking increasingly unlikely we'll emulate last season finish, the good will is evaporating and the manager is starting to sound pissed off.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 16, 2022
  • #180
clint van damme said:
The 10 year deal is being eaten away
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Doesn't matter, we've got our new ground to look forward to.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Sep 16, 2022
  • #181
Deleted member 5849 said:
Doesn't matter, we've got our new ground to look forward to.
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I wonder which ground it’ll be. Perhaps it’ll be Villa Park or the King Power this time. Really amp up the drama in the final part of the trilogy.
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 16, 2022
  • #182
shmmeee said:
I’d imagine we have to pay well over the odds and then it’s impossible to find them another sucker.

There’s been a fair bit of bad luck, Walker forgetting how to play football at Pompey, Kanes last minute injury, Hilsners ACL, etc. Dacosta again nearly went and has gone out on loan (which frankly is a fucking miracle)

It’s only really Waghorn who is highly paid, not playing a lot, and come nowhere near going. And he’s in a lot of peoples preferred lineups for the next game.

All the players you mentioned are in their final year of their contract, I wouldn’t be surprised to see a few gone before the summer.
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Kelly is highly paid, palmer is highly paid and o hare and hamer are the highest

Wage bill has to be near £20 million
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 16, 2022
  • #183
Deleted member 5849 said:
Doesn't matter, we've got our new ground to look forward to.
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As have Newport
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 16, 2022
  • #184
chiefdave said:
Doesn't the fact they had a replacement lined up, albeit one that fell though, not indicate that they had some idea he was going?
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Robins had him sold without consent
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 16, 2022
  • #185
Grendel said:
Kelly is highly paid, palmer is highly paid and o hare and hamer are the highest

Wage bill has to be near £20 million
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But they’re all first teamers
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 16, 2022
  • #186
shmmeee said:
But they’re all first teamers
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Kelly most certainly is not, Palmer is considered as a sub player as are waghorn and Walker. So 4 of the biggest earners aren’t starters and Moore will be a pretty big earner as well
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 16, 2022
  • #187
Grendel said:
Kelly most certainly is not, Palmer is considered as a sub player as are waghorn and Walker. So 4 of the biggest earners aren’t starters and Moore will be a pretty big earner as well
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Are you claiming players should be unstoppable based on wage?

All of those players played or will play a bigger role than the likes of Dacosta, Shipley or Jones. We do need 18 players for a match day squad.

I’m not going to disagree that the money on Waghorn and Kelly is looking like a poor investment, particularly Kelly. But the fundamental problem isn’t that none of our players ever lose form but that we dont have a budget to put out a squad that can sustain the most basic of hits from injury.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 16, 2022
  • #188
Grendel said:
“If we can stay in the division that’s a huge thing for us” there you go then
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Makes us sound like Yeovil
 

AOM

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  • Sep 16, 2022
  • #189
Deleted member 5849 said:
Doesn't matter, we've got our new ground to look forward to.
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The thing with this joke is it gets better with time
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 16, 2022
  • #190
shmmeee said:
I wonder which ground it’ll be. Perhaps it’ll be Villa Park or the King Power this time. Really amp up the drama in the final part of the trilogy.
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You not counting the Comic Relief special that was Burton?
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 16, 2022
  • #191
SlowerThanPlatt said:
He’s had a few snipes at them in fairness to the extent you might have to consider your Robins SISU lover stance
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I think he’s starting to lose his love at the Sisu Temple
 

clint van damme

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  • Sep 16, 2022
  • #192
Grendel said:
I think he’s starting to lose his love at the Sisu Temple
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Well no mater who owns a football club, the manager needs a decent relationship with them, sounds like the one between Robins and Sepalla is starting to sour.
 

GIMOC

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  • Sep 17, 2022
  • #193
Nick said:
Didn't he sign them all and I bet they are all on decent wages too.

It's not like the bench against Luton was full of kids.

Waghon
Walker
Palmer
Panzo
Moore

Then Eccles and Burroughs, they are youngsters. You would think when Kane is back fit he will replace Burroughs or Eccles on there.
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obviously robins has no faith in the bench. Only sub Wednesday was panzo and that was forced. Godden was blowing out his arse after 60 mins but still no change. Shame at millwall. Scorching heat, down to 10 men and first change at 80+ mins.
 
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thekidfromstrettoncamp

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  • Sep 17, 2022
  • #194
GIMOC said:
obviously robins has no faith in the bench. Only sub Wednesday was panzo and that was forced. Godden was blowing out his arse after 60 mins but still no change. Shame at millwall. Scorching heat, down to 10 men and first change at 80+ mins.
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I would not say "no faith" it's just he do not do subsitutions a lot. Very often we see what we think are obvious times and he does not.Myself i think it is his biggest fault
 
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GIMOC

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  • Sep 17, 2022
  • #195
thekidfromstrettoncamp said:
I would not say "no faith" it's just he do not do subsitutions a lot. Very often we see what we think are obvious times and he does not.Myself i think it is his biggest fault
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2 ways to look at it. Robins is not pro-active with his subs, he usually waits till something happens. Same time, he moans about the squad and amount of games so plenty of contradiction
 
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thekidfromstrettoncamp

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  • Sep 17, 2022
  • #196
GIMOC said:
2 ways to look at it. Robins is not pro-active with his subs, he usually waits till something happens. Same time, he moans about the squad and amount of games so plenty of contradiction
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Definitely not proactive the other side score and the players come on .The "horse and stable door "come to mind.Like i say his biggest fault
 
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SBT

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  • Sep 17, 2022
  • #197
AOM said:
Hyam was literally sold from beneath Robins's feet.
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Adge

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  • Sep 17, 2022
  • #198
Another tell tale sign that things may be coming to a head. Robins spinning out the “glass ceiling” line for a second time in as many weeks doesn’t sound good.
Depending on how this season goes I’d expect season tickets to be probably halved in numbers as the owners have again reverted to type.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 17, 2022
  • #199
Adge said:
Another tell tale sign that things may be coming to a head. Robins spinning out the “glass ceiling” line for a second time in as many weeks doesn’t sound good.
Depending on how this season goes I’d expect season tickets to be probably halved in numbers as the owners have again reverted to type.
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If relegated definitely, if somehow we’re not would be a few thousand more. But the summer window either way will see essentially one squad leave and another arrive
 
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