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djr8369

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #36
You awarded MR and AV long term contracts but since both have been let go. Where do you think things went wrong?
 
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Wyken Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #37
torchomatic said:
I hope we appoint someone who's name we can't pronounce.
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Mark Robbings?
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #38
When Doug king came his mission statement was to get the “best manager” in the league to the premier league. Now he’s failed what lessons will be learnt and what will be differently?
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #39
Wyken Sky Blue said:
Mark Robbings?
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Adi Vinesh?
 
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torchomatic

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #40
Skyblueweeman said:
Frankocini Lampardorosolic
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I'm impressed already. Is he the Inter Linguine manager?
 
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fatso

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #41
Evo1883 said:
I can't go I'd rip him a new arsehole
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Well done on coming out of the closet.

SBT welcomes people of all sexualities, and we will treat you with respect at all times.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #42
Wyken Sky Blue said:
The change in structure of the football club does not include a Director of Football

Why not, when yourself (Doug King) have public stated you have little to no interest or knowledge about football and therefore making footballing decisions (e.g. appointing coaches, transfers) and above all else making a decision to sack Mark Robins which 90%+ of the fans disagree with?
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Do you really believe it's been king taking it on himself to scout players and the recruitment of the coaches? Robins is quoted saying he planned how the coaches would work.

I'm guessing anything bad was king and anything good it was robins.

Just maybe robins had run out of ideas? It happens.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #43
usskyblue said:
Which border plants do you recommend?
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Mexican
 
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Wyken Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #44
Nick said:
Do you really believe it's been king taking it on himself to scout players and the recruitment of the coaches? Robins is quoted saying he planned how the coaches would work.

I'm guessing anything bad was king and anything good it was robins.

Just maybe robins had run out of ideas? It happens.
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Not exactly but I do think King has been too involved with footballing decisions for someone that has said themselves they aren't competent. I would actually be pleased if he came out and said 'I don't know a thing about football but I know a person who does and they will make decisions working with Robins, in the meantime I am committed to this and will learn as I go'

Didn't someone say Robins wanted an assistant manager but he was denied by King?

You don't become a bad manager overnight, clearly something has changed to upset the apple cart and the common denominator at this moment (rightly or wrongly) is Doug King

Who do you think is going to appoint the next manager?
 
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rob9872

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #45
I'd nominate myself but if I told that cung what I thought he'd revoke my season ticket and I'd have an even less happy daughter!
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #46
What are his motivations for owning this football club when he himself has confessed he’s not much of a football fan?
 
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rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #47
SeaSeeEffCee said:
What are his motivations for owning this football club when he himself has confessed he’s not much of a football fan?
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Fame
Ego
Money
 
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Grendel

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #48
torchomatic said:
I hope we appoint someone who's name we can't pronounce.
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I don't think Frank is too difficult even for the average football fan
 
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Pricey1984

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #49
What will be the process for appointed a new "head coach". Will we be seeking a list if people or merely opening it to applicants?

Will a new person have to chance to bring an assistant. The press release earlier suggests not, but would they turn away someone good to stick to this if said person was used to having their own assistant?
 
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ccfcricoh

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #50
if you are now after a head coach as opposed to a manager, assuming the only real difference is "say in transfer market dealings" why do you not want the "head coach" to have this input any more?

If that's not the case, what do you see as the difference between a head coach and a manager?
 
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SkyBlueMatt

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #51
If he turns up, throw your shoe at him.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #52
Can the club explain the new coaching structure and the reasons for it? The answer cannot be "everybody else does it" but what benefit is the new structure intended to bring?
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #53
Will the compensation for the dismissals of Robins and Viveash come from the club's own generated income or elsewhere?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #54
fernandopartridge said:
Will the compensation for the dismissals of Robins and Viveash come from the club's own generated income or elsewhere?
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I wouldn’t be shocked if there were clauses that reduced the payout.
 
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wantageskyblue

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #55
Skyblueweeman said:
Why was Matty James not allowed to sign when by all accounts, the manager and player were happy and the experience would've helped?
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And is it true that there was another player that MR wanted who DK vetoed too? Did this lead to a major disagreement between DK and MR and did this also involve AV?
 
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Grendel

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #56
chiefdave said:
Some questions I'd actually like King to answer, although if he does we'll obviously get bland business speak

1) Given the outpouring of anger, disgust and disappointment at his sacking of Robins does he acknowledge that firing Mark Robins is very much against the vast majority of fans wishes.

2) Since taking over he has overseen major changes to the coaching structure, does he feel these changes have in any way contributed given that prior to this we had year on year improvements for several consecutive seasons under Robins.

3) Following on from question 2 what reassurances can he give supporters that he will make the 'right' appointment given that many fans feel the appointments on the playing side since he took over have been failures.

4) Not really a question but I feel it should be made clear to King how woefully inadequate the statement on the website is given everything Robins has done for the club.
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1) The fans have a short term mentality. Fans want success. The next appointment is on the new owner and will clearly be under pressure but if he succeeds fans wishes will be realised.

2) Whatever we think the previous structure was archaic and suited to L2. Sisu never upgraded the clubs structure and training facilities. The questions suggest we want the Sisu model of operation back.

3) There are never any reassurances but there is accountability. The accountability of the signings made are on the manager who has been dismissed.

4) It is but given that the most successful manager in my lifetime was sacked when in hospital and only knew of it on the radio - no one even bothered to tell him.
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #57
MalcSB said:
Don’t sacked managers get the remainder of their contract paid up?
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Depends what’s in the contract, might have a notice period or even clauses that give the club a window depending on teams league position etc
 

bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #58
Is the 5 year plan still on track?

Is the new manager one that we expect to get us to the premier league?

As such, what Championship/PL experience requirements are there for the candidates?
 

Diogenes

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #59
Surely this will be cancelled
 
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Skyblueweeman

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #60
Grendel said:
1) The fans have a short term mentality. Fans want success. The next appointment is on the new owner and will clearly be under pressure but if he succeeds fans wishes will be realised.

2) Whatever we think the previous structure was archaic and suited to L2. Sisu never upgraded the clubs structure and training facilities. The questions suggest we want the Sisu model of operation back.

3) There are never any reassurances but there is accountability. The accountability of the signings made are on the manager who has been dismissed.

4) It is but given that the most successful manager in my lifetime was sacked when in hospital and only knew of it on the radio - no one even bothered to tell him.
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Cheers Doug
 

Old Warwickshire lad

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #61
Sky Blue Pete said:
Me and another member of the forum can go it’s at the cbs

I need to give a name by tomorrow morning

Anyone interested?

Any questions you’d like me to put to Doug
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Yea,ask him how soon he can fook off.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #62
ccfcricoh said:
if you are now after a head coach as opposed to a manager, assuming the only real difference is "say in transfer market dealings" why do you not want the "head coach" to have this input any more?

If that's not the case, what do you see as the difference between a head coach and a manager?
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because that is how modern football clubs work, most big clubs have coaches not managers
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #63
Also they are not going to tell you what if anything happened with Viveash, that'll covered by GDPR

Also they aren't going to tell you about players we almost signed.
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #64
Even if he did turn up, he’d probably get applauded into the room by a load of two faced, lanyard wearing suck ups.
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #65
Londonccfcfan said:
He will get lynched if he turns up.
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Stupid comment. What are you on?
 

Flying Fokker

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #66
speedie87 said:
Most important question I think is whose decision was it for Vivash to leave.
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Have you not read this forum. Didn’t AV try to undermine MR?
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #67
David O'Day said:
because that is how modern football clubs work, most big clubs have coaches not managers
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That isn't the reason though is it? You can't say "we should do this because that's modern football" - what's the real reason?
 

Flying Fokker

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #68
Wyken Sky Blue said:
The change in structure of the football club does not include a Director of Football

Why not, when yourself (Doug King) have public stated you have little to no interest or knowledge about football and therefore making footballing decisions (e.g. appointing coaches, transfers) and above all else making a decision to sack Mark Robins which 90%+ of the fans disagree with?
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I’d add, What would you do if you had kept MR and the performances took us to relegation?
 

Evo1883

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #69
Tommo1993 said:
Even if he did turn up, he’d probably get applauded into the room by a load of two faced, lanyard wearing suck ups.
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The audience will be cherry picked , most fans would pull him apart with awkward questions about football and make him look stupid
 
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Grendel

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  • Nov 7, 2024
  • #70
Old Warwickshire lad said:
Yea,ask him how soon he can fook off.
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So @Sky Blue Pete likes this post and will be attending as the SBT representative
 
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