Non AMP
Sky Blues Talk
  • Home
  • Forums
  • Coventry City Football Club
  • Coventry City General Chat
This is a mobile optimized page that loads fast, if you want to load the real page, click this text.

Supporters forum 6pm November 11th (3 Viewers)

  • Thread starter Sky Blue Pete
  • Start date Nov 7, 2024
Forums New posts
Status
Not open for further replies.
Prev
  • 1
  • …
  • 12
  • 13
  • 14
  • 15
  • 16
  • …
  • 20
Next
First Prev 14 of 20 Next Last

alexccfc99

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #456
chiefdave said:
Didn't someone chuck a chair at him in a pub once?
Click to expand...
Did they? Like something out of the WWE?
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #457
chiefdave said:
Didn't someone chuck a chair at him in a pub once?
Click to expand...
Proper made me sad and angry but after we played on Saturday it was easier to face
Now I’m more angry at the lack of respect in the statement and I’m not sure Doug is aware of the lasting impact Mr had. I think quite literally he saved the football club and certainly helped us all fall back in love with it

That said No manager is the club and certainly no owner is

What’s the plan
What’s success?
why change the goalposts?
why now?
etc
 
Reactions: SkyBlueSam01
S

SkyBlueMatt

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #458
Mucca Mad Boys said:
What if King is actually right?

Perhaps it’s the fans naive belief in Robins that risk us taking a massive backward step this year.
Click to expand...

If he's right, then he's right. I'm big enough to say I'm wrong but I think people have short memories. DK is not a football man but he must think it's easy. Look at the amount of clubs that spend year on year and do nothing apart from change their manager. How much success did we have during our Championship years (& fall) before MR took over? The merry go round of managers.

You're definitely right about being naive though, I hoped that as a club, we had some loyalty in this modern era of football. As progression, last season was Robins worst. We still finished 9th and got to the semi-final of the FA cup. Robins has never taken us back.
 
Last edited: Nov 11, 2024
Reactions: Sky Blue Pete
B

Bigelvesy

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #459
Im really keen to hear that doug is held to account and explain his actions. Whats done is done and Robins isnt coming back. I want to hear whats next, but i also want to hear the logic behind the timing of the decision and how this ties into the expectations upon the new person.

If Doug says this years target is now nothing more than consolidation then i want answers on why the treated Robins so poorly. If they are happy to accept the season as done, then I want to know why Robins couldnt have seen out the year and been given a farewell more respectful, with a replacement then appointed in the summer, with a whole pre season and transfer window to recruit.

I'm not accepting that we've 'wasted' a third of a season and so the new guy gets a season free pass, plenty of teams in history including ourselves have mounted Play Off challenges for where we are or worse positions.

The only way this decision is acceptable to me is if Doug has gambled that the new guy is going to deliver play offs this year. If thats the case i can semi respect the gamble, it either pays off or it doesnt.
 
Reactions: Sky_Blue_Dreamer, Darth Robins, Ring Of Steel and 1 other person

Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #460
SkyBlueMatt said:
If he's right, then he's right. I'm big enough to say I'm wrong but I think people have short memories. DK is not a football man but he must think it's easy. Look at the amount of clubs that spend year on year and do nothing apart from change their manager. How much success did we have during our Championship years (& fall) before MR took over? The merry go round of managers.

You're definitely right about being naive though, I hoped that as a club, we had some loyalty in this modern era of football. As progression, last season was Robins worse. We still finished 9th and got to the semi-final of the FA cup. Robins has never taken us back.
Click to expand...
I was gutted as you and many of us were when the news dropped. Personally, I refused to believe it and thought my mates were pissing about.

Now the dust has settled, can anyone say that they’d have backed any other manager who’s been on the same run as Robins in 2024?

My answer to that is no. I agree that the club should have had the loyalty to give MR the chance to turn it around. Given at least until
Xmas and the chance to strengthen the squad in Jan. Equally, if Robins had lost the dressing room, then a bad situation could’ve got worse and relegation would’ve been a disaster and would half the value the value of our squad.

It pains me to say it, but we’ll see if the ruthless decision to sack Robins was the right one.
 
Reactions: Brighton Sky Blue, skybluecam, TomRad85 and 1 other person
P

play_in_skyblue_stripes

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #461
fernandopartridge said:
No point asking why AV was sacked or why DL moved on, the answer isn't going to give you anything useful.

The focus of questions needs to be on what's happening next and nothing else.
Click to expand...
Disagree, I believe it's a perfectly legitimate question to ask. Two seemingly successful background staff are no longer at the club ,
" Mr King, why do you think they are no longer with the club?"

Whether he chooses to answer is not the point.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #462
play_in_skyblue_stripes said:
Disagree, I believe it's a perfectly legitimate question to ask. Two seemingly successful background staff are no longer at the club ,
" Mr King, why do you think they are no longer with the club?"

Whether he chooses to answer is not the point.
Click to expand...
If there’s levels involved then you won’t get a meaningful answer as both parties have an NDA.

Dennis Lawrence leaving is no secret. He got a promotion, pay rise and moved closer to home. The definition of a no-brainer for him.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #463
Mucca Mad Boys said:
I was gutted as you and many of us were when the news dropped. Personally, I refused to believe it and thought my mates were pissing about.

Now the dust has settled, can anyone say that they’d have backed any other manager who’s been on the same run as Robins in 2024?

My answer to that is no. I agree that the club should have had the loyalty to give MR the chance to turn it around. Given at least until
Xmas and the chance to strengthen the squad in Jan. Equally, if Robins had lost the dressing room, then a bad situation could’ve got worse and relegation would’ve been a disaster and would half the value the value of our squad.

It pains me to say it, but we’ll see if the ruthless decision to sack Robins was the right one.
Click to expand...

The sacking happened months ago in reality. I think the hope was there would be some moment of clarity from Doug before he finished the job and turned us into Stoke. The pain of losing our best manager in my lifetime is only compounded with the pain of knowing our owner is exactly the idiot we all feared he was.

On the “any other manager” point that keeps coming up. The reason for that is any other manager hasn’t got results to back up the idea of a turnaround. People pro this decision are already saying basically the new guy has 18 months to prove himself, that’s about the length of most managers tenure, because most managers tenures fail to prove in that 18 months they are the right fit. Robins had already proven that. The sensible place to look was all the changes brought in in the last 18 months when the club has gone to shit compared to its prior trajectory.
 
Reactions: Darth Robins, torchomatic, SkyBlueMatt and 1 other person

Sky_Blue_Daz

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #464
Forgive me if this has been asked but is the forum on the radio tonight ?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #465
Sky_Blue_Daz said:
Forgive me if this has been asked but is the forum on the radio tonight ?
Click to expand...

Yes. And a reaction program straight after I believe.
 
Reactions: torchomatic, Sky Blue Pete and Sky_Blue_Daz

Sky_Blue_Daz

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #466
chiefdave said:
Didn't someone chuck a chair at him in a pub once?
Click to expand...
I was there , one of the mad hatters was sat in it at the time
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #467
shmmeee said:
Yes. And a reaction program straight after I believe.
Click to expand...

"Can Oggy tell me how the keeper played today?"
 
Reactions: torchomatic and Sky Blue Pete

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #468
Sky_Blue_Daz said:
Forgive me if this has been asked but is the forum on the radio tonight ?
Click to expand...
Yes
 
S

SkyBlueMatt

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #469
Mucca Mad Boys said:
I was gutted as you and many of us were when the news dropped. Personally, I refused to believe it and thought my mates were pissing about.

Now the dust has settled, can anyone say that they’d have backed any other manager who’s been on the same run as Robins in 2024?

My answer to that is no. I agree that the club should have had the loyalty to give MR the chance to turn it around. Given at least until
Xmas and the chance to strengthen the squad in Jan. Equally, if Robins had lost the dressing room, then a bad situation could’ve got worse and relegation would’ve been a disaster and would half the value the value of our squad.

It pains me to say it, but we’ll see if the ruthless decision to sack Robins was the right one.
Click to expand...

No, I agree. I wouldn't but that's kind of the point, in 2 ways.

One: If the new manager finishes mid table this season then next, if we find ourself in the bottom half, 12 games in. He won't have the fans backing him like Robins had, so this time next year we could be looking for another manager. I know I would be calling for them to be sacked, as we are now aware it's not good enough.

Two: He was Robins, of everything he's done, including turning the season around twice from being in a similar position and time of the season.
 
Reactions: Darth Robins and Sky Blue Pete

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #470
Nick said:
"Can Oggy tell me how the keeper played today?"
Click to expand...

“No Clive I didn’t listen to the Forum tonight but I wanted to say a few things”
 
Reactions: Sky_Blue_Dreamer, Sky Blue Wozza, torchomatic and 2 others

ProfessorbyGrace

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #471
Any idea if those attending have had pre-prepared questions given to them? For Doug King.

Doesn’t seem like the sort of businessman that walks into a forum like that, knowing he’ll be asked some very taxing and unvetted questions.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #472
ProfessorbyGrace said:
Any idea if those attending have had pre-prepared questions given to them? For Doug King.

Doesn’t seem like the sort of businessman that walks into a forum like that, knowing he’ll be asked some very taxing and unvetted questions.
Click to expand...

People on Twitter who are going have said no pre vetted Qs, just told not to swear as it’s live.
 

TomRad85

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #473
shmmeee said:
People on Twitter who are going have said no pre vetted Qs, just told not to swear as it’s live.
Click to expand...
Exactly the opposite of what people assumed then, as per. Fair play to him, Joy and Tim would be hiding in their nuclear bunker.
 
Reactions: skybluecam

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #474
TomRad85 said:
Exactly the opposite of what people assumed then, as per. Fair play to him, Joy and Tim would be hiding in their nuclear bunker.
Click to expand...

Can’t believe they won’t let Pete call Doug a c**t live on the BBC. Basically North Korea.
 
Reactions: Sky_Blue_Dreamer, CCFColi, MusicDating and 2 others

TomRad85

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #475
shmmeee said:
Can’t believe they won’t let Pete call Doug a c**t live on the BBC. Basically North Korea.
Click to expand...
Doug would rock a Kim Jong Un trim I reckon.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #476
TomRad85 said:
Doug would rock a Kim Jong Un trim I reckon.
Click to expand...

Im sure if you scroll far enough on Twitter you’ll find a photoshop to confirm or deny
 
Reactions: TomRad85

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #477
Mucca Mad Boys said:
If there’s levels involved then you won’t get a meaningful answer as both parties have an NDA.

Dennis Lawrence leaving is no secret. He got a promotion, pay rise and moved closer to home. The definition of a no-brainer for him.
Click to expand...

My initial question wasn't why did they leave, it was why weren't they replaced?
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #478
Bigelvesy said:
Im really keen to hear that doug is held to account and explain his actions. Whats done is done and Robins isnt coming back. I want to hear whats next, but i also want to hear the logic behind the timing of the decision and how this ties into the expectations upon the new person.

If Doug says this years target is now nothing more than consolidation then i want answers on why the treated Robins so poorly. If they are happy to accept the season as done, then I want to know why Robins couldnt have seen out the year and been given a farewell more respectful, with a replacement then appointed in the summer, with a whole pre season and transfer window to recruit.

I'm not accepting that we've 'wasted' a third of a season and so the new guy gets a season free pass, plenty of teams in history including ourselves have mounted Play Off challenges for where we are or worse positions.

The only way this decision is acceptable to me is if Doug has gambled that the new guy is going to deliver play offs this year. If thats the case i can semi respect the gamble, it either pays off or it doesnt.
Click to expand...

Absolutely spot on. I was saying this over and over yesterday. It is pointless sacking Mark if the new guy isn't going to improve on what King presumed he was going to achieve. All this "third of the season has gone so he gets a free pass" stuff is nonsense. And unacceptable.
 
Reactions: Bigelvesy, MusicDating and Ring Of Steel

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #479
Bigelvesy said:
Im really keen to hear that doug is held to account and explain his actions. Whats done is done and Robins isnt coming back. I want to hear whats next, but i also want to hear the logic behind the timing of the decision and how this ties into the expectations upon the new person.

If Doug says this years target is now nothing more than consolidation then i want answers on why the treated Robins so poorly. If they are happy to accept the season as done, then I want to know why Robins couldnt have seen out the year and been given a farewell more respectful, with a replacement then appointed in the summer, with a whole pre season and transfer window to recruit.

I'm not accepting that we've 'wasted' a third of a season and so the new guy gets a season free pass, plenty of teams in history including ourselves have mounted Play Off challenges for where we are or worse positions.

The only way this decision is acceptable to me is if Doug has gambled that the new guy is going to deliver play offs this year. If thats the case i can semi respect the gamble, it either pays off or it doesnt.
Click to expand...

absolutely nailed it imho
 
Reactions: Bigelvesy and skybluecam

skybluecam

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #480
Bigelvesy said:
Im really keen to hear that doug is held to account and explain his actions. Whats done is done and Robins isnt coming back. I want to hear whats next, but i also want to hear the logic behind the timing of the decision and how this ties into the expectations upon the new person.

If Doug says this years target is now nothing more than consolidation then i want answers on why the treated Robins so poorly. If they are happy to accept the season as done, then I want to know why Robins couldnt have seen out the year and been given a farewell more respectful, with a replacement then appointed in the summer, with a whole pre season and transfer window to recruit.

I'm not accepting that we've 'wasted' a third of a season and so the new guy gets a season free pass, plenty of teams in history including ourselves have mounted Play Off challenges for where we are or worse positions.

The only way this decision is acceptable to me is if Doug has gambled that the new guy is going to deliver play offs this year. If thats the case i can semi respect the gamble, it either pays off or it doesnt.
Click to expand...
So would you have accepted it if we finished something like 12th and Robins was sacked in the summer?
 

mmttww

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #481
shmmeee said:
The pain of losing our best manager in my lifetime is only compounded with the pain of knowing our owner is exactly the idiot we all feared he was.
Click to expand...

... because of him sacking MR or other stuff?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #482
torchomatic said:
Absolutely spot on. I was saying this over and over yesterday. It is pointless sacking Mark if the new guy isn't going to improve on what King presumed he was going to achieve. All this "third of the season has gone so he gets a free pass" stuff is nonsense. And unacceptable.
Click to expand...

Nobody is saying a free pass.

The point about the third of the season has gone is valid.
 
Reactions: Brighton Sky Blue and skybluecam

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #483
Nick said:
Nobody is saying a free pass.

The point about the third of the season has gone is valid.
Click to expand...
Have to disagree. People might not be explicity saying "free pass" but that's what they mean. There were a few comments yesterday advocating just that.
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #484
torchomatic said:
Absolutely spot on. I was saying this over and over yesterday. It is pointless sacking Mark if the new guy isn't going to improve on what King presumed he was going to achieve. All this "third of the season has gone so he gets a free pass" stuff is nonsense. And unacceptable.
Click to expand...

The double standards now emanating from the people that were constantly ranting about wanting him gone, it’s embarrassing.

They’re not explicitly using the words “free pass” but that’s what they mean, we can all see that.
 

skybluecam

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #485
torchomatic said:
Have to disagree. People might not be explicity saying "free pass" but that's what they mean. There were a few comments yesterday advocating just that.
Click to expand...
Go on then, find one
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #486
Nick said:
The point about the third of the season has gone is valid.
Click to expand...

We were 19th in November 2022. Finished 5th. No validity at all.
 
Last edited: Nov 11, 2024
Reactions: Ring Of Steel

skybluecam

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #487
torchomatic said:
We were 19th in November 2022. Finished 5th. No vadility at all.
Click to expand...
with 2/3 games in hand and had more points than we did at the time of the sacking

Emotion really is ruling the day
 
Reactions: mmttww

TomRad85

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #488
torchomatic said:
We were 19th in November 2022. Finished 5th. No vadility at all.
Click to expand...
Your head has gone and the fact people are liking your posts shows you aren't alone. Never seen anything like it, the reaction to this is worse than when we were bombed out to Northampton. Weird stuff.
 
Reactions: skybluecam

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #489
skybluecam said:
Go on then, find one
Click to expand...
 

skybluecam

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #490
torchomatic said:
View attachment 39411
Click to expand...
hardly a free pass
 
Prev
  • 1
  • …
  • 12
  • 13
  • 14
  • 15
  • 16
  • …
  • 20
Next
First Prev 14 of 20 Next Last
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 3 (members: 0, guests: 3)
Share:
Facebook Twitter Reddit Pinterest Tumblr WhatsApp Email
  • Home
  • Forums
  • Coventry City Football Club
  • Coventry City General Chat
  • Default Style
  • Contact us
  • Terms and rules
  • Privacy policy
  • Help
  • Home
Community platform by XenForo® © 2010-2021 XenForo Ltd.
Menu
Log in

Register

  • Home
  • Forums
    • New posts
    • Search forums
  • What's new
    • New posts
    • Latest activity
  • Members
    • Current visitors
  • Donate to the Season Ticket Fund
X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?

X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?