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  • Start date Apr 19, 2014
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wingy

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  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #36
What about left and right siders ,wrongsiders?:facepalm:
 

M&B Stand

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #37
MichaelCCFC said:
Selling kcic t-shirts and handing out ePetition leaflets at Coventry market today, and not a cross word except for being visited by a person who announced themselves as being a member of the SCG who came to tell me how kcic is completely wrong. Just as the pro acl people have their mantra so the pro sisu people now seem to have a set series of points which run along the lines of, as I was harangued with today: sisu have invested £50m+ which shows what good owners they are; the Higgs court case shows the council has a lot to hide and sisu will win the JR; Simon Gilbert is pro council whereas Les Reid told the truth; Joy Seppala is a really nice person; the sisu skeleton argument is the absolute truth of the situation. When I said I wasn't interested in the JR or who's to blame but am interested only in how to get ccfc back to the ricoh asap the reply was 'well you're anti-sisu'. My reply was 'I've never bought into being pro/anti sisu/acl but like the majority of fans believe the council and acl have questions to answer but sisu are primarily responsible for moving ccfc to ntfc - and the ePetition is about calling all parties to account'. Their reply was something angry but inaudible and then to storm off! Really does seem there are acl and sisu fundamentalists with beliefs which they see as gospel and just refuse to engage in debate - either you agree with their fundamentalist belief or they just don't want to know. Thankfully, talking to scores of normal people today is great reassurance that while both angry and hugely saddened by what is going on (and also very despondent) the great majority of fans have no truck with the extremists at all. So a good day in the end.
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Michael, do us one of you're equations again. You know the ones, where ACL charge as high rent (or fees)as possible and it still being better financially than renting sixfields, justifying the milking of the club, but in a positive way. They're my favourite.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #38
M&B Stand said:
Michael, do us one of you're equations again. You know the ones, where ACL charge as high rent (or fees)as possible and it still being better financially than renting sixfields, justifying the milking of the club, but in a positive way. They're my favourite.
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That was a smart, witty response (not):thinking about:
 
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Steve.B50

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #39
If anyone has evidence, a letter an email, a text or anything else why don't they put it out into the public domain so we can all make our own choices?
Whatever is out there some City fans know.
 

M&B Stand

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #40
Sky Blue Harry H said:
That was a smart, witty response (not):thinking about:
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I've not heard anyone use an ironic 'not' since Gareth Keenan in The Office.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #41
M&B Stand said:
I've not heard anyone use an ironic 'not' since Gareth Keenan in The Office.
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Ha ha ha ha!!!!'
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #42
bigfatronssba said:
Just because you've never heard it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Your wrong on this.
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that cant be right, Grendal has never heard of it
 

cloughie

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #43
Grendel said:
I have never heard the term main stand brigade, sky blue stander, west stander so no you are usual talking rubbish just for the sake of arguing.
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how ironic ............'just for the sake of arguing'
 
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AJB1983

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #44
Whatever anybody's stance is, it is clear that the group supposedly representative of the supporter base put together to have a close link to the club management is clearly in Fisher/ML/Sisu's pocket.
Why this is a problem is that it is not accurately representing the views of the fan base at the meetings it holds.
Even for the sake of levelling it out a bit, the lack of a SBT seat on the Scg is surely a sign of which side of the fence they sit on.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #45
AJB1983 said:
Whatever anybody's stance is, it is clear that the group supposedly representative of the supporter base put together to have a close link to the club management is clearly in Fisher/ML/Sisu's pocket.
Why this is a problem is that it is not accurately representing the views of the fan base at the meetings it holds.
Even for the sake of levelling it out a bit, the lack of a SBT seat on the Scg is surely a sign of which side of the fence they sit on.
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There is trust people at the scg?
 
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AJB1983

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #46
Nick said:
There is trust people at the scg?
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Thought the last 'meeting' seemed to suggest they (or at least the chair) didn't want them there?
My point being if they are weeded out then the group isn't as impartial/representative as it should be
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #47
AJB1983 said:
Thought the last 'meeting' seemed to suggest they (or at least the chair) didn't want them there?
My point being if they are weeded out then the group isn't as impartial/representative as it should be
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I agree, the tone was wrong and they should speak to Steve and sort it
 
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Steve.B50

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #48
AJB1983 said:
Thought the last 'meeting' seemed to suggest they (or at least the chair) didn't want them there?
My point being if they are weeded out then the group isn't as impartial/representative as it should be
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I can assure you that the Sky Blue a Trust are not going anywhere. The Trust actually formed the original SCG and we will remain on the group to represent our members and all fans.
 

blueflint

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #49
RFC said:
Think you're going to find out that the person you quoted has 'hit the nail on the head' but I'm prepared to just wait and see. PUSB!
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when are we getting the proof you claim to have
 
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georgehudson

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #50
i'd guess that there are tens of thousands of fans who have been driven away from the club due to the blatant bigotry displayed by the various parties, some to a much larger extent than others,
they, of course, have to prepare their stance for the JR,
& as such show how caring they are (this, imho, is bullshit),
as a fan who has been abused by the owning mob, i say,
'i despise your antics & tactics'
as a fan of over 55 years, i feel nothing but sadness,
just remember, you devout christians,
you reap what you sew
 
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Steve.B50

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2014
  • #51
blueflint said:
when are we getting the proof you claim to have
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My point exactly.
Show us the proof, why do some fans feel they have the right to hold this information from us?
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2014
  • #52
So Torch it is wrong to call someone a Sixfielder but it is alright when you call them Hillers, NOPM Brigade an such so the double standards are out again.

Oh and Grendel I was a westender a term that was used for decades any city supporter should know this.
 
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limoncello

Guest
  • Apr 20, 2014
  • #53
Funnily enough I was on a bus today and had no hassle at all except for this eastern European bloke who kept looking at me funny.
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2014
  • #54
wasn't me don't get the bus.

limoncello said:
Funnily enough I was on a bus today and had no hassle at all except for this eastern European bloke who kept looking at me funny.
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olderskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2014
  • #55
letsallsingtogether said:
Oh and Grendel I was a westender a term that was used for decades any city supporter should know this.
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It is odd that someone who claims to be a long standing city supporter didn't know this. It was such a common term.
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2014
  • #56
That is my thoughts exactly :thinking about:Could understand the younger ones not knowing but even my 19 year old son knows that term....

olderskyblue said:
It is odd that someone who claims to be a long standing city supporter didn't know this. It was such a common term.
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mighty quinn

New Member
  • Apr 20, 2014
  • #57
MichaelCCFC said:
Selling kcic t-shirts and handing out ePetition leaflets at Coventry market today, and not a cross word except for being visited by a person who announced themselves as being a member of the SCG who came to tell me how kcic is completely wrong. Just as the pro acl people have their mantra so the pro sisu people now seem to have a set series of points which run along the lines of, as I was harangued with today: sisu have invested £50m+ which shows what good owners they are; the Higgs court case shows the council has a lot to hide and sisu will win the JR; Simon Gilbert is pro council whereas Les Reid told the truth; Joy Seppala is a really nice person; the sisu skeleton argument is the absolute truth of the situation. When I said I wasn't interested in the JR or who's to blame but am interested only in how to get ccfc back to the ricoh asap the reply was 'well you're anti-sisu'. My reply was 'I've never bought into being pro/anti sisu/acl but like the majority of fans believe the council and acl have questions to answer but sisu are primarily responsible for moving ccfc to ntfc - and the ePetition is about calling all parties to account'. Their reply was something angry but inaudible and then to storm off! Really does seem there are acl and sisu fundamentalists with beliefs which they see as gospel and just refuse to engage in debate - either you agree with their fundamentalist belief or they just don't want to know. Thankfully, talking to scores of normal people today is great reassurance that while both angry and hugely saddened by what is going on (and also very despondent) the great majority of fans have no truck with the extremists at all. So a good day in the end.
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2014
  • #58
limoncello said:
Funnily enough I was on a bus today and had no hassle at all except for this eastern European bloke who kept looking at me funny.
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You hav'nt got that car yet /

Settle for that SAAB,I let my old Classic go last year and regret It.
 

sky blue john

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2014
  • #59
Secret Meetingeners !!
 

Hobo

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2014
  • #60
letsallsingtogether said:
So Torch it is wrong to call someone a Sixfielder but it is alright when you call them Hillers, NOPM Brigade an such so the double standards are out again.

Oh and Grendel I was a westender a term that was used for decades any city supporter should know this.
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We even had the excellent fanzine called The Westender
 

skybluealan

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2014
  • #61
If you have never heard of these terms, there is no way you have been a long standing Coventry fan. The statement you made shows you are just a Sisu feed boy/girl
 

skybluealan

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2014
  • #62
skybluealan said:
If you have never heard of these terms, there is no way you have been a long standing Coventry fan. The statement you made shows you are just a Sisu feed boy/girl
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This applies to Grendel
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2014
  • #63
M&B Stand said:
Michael, do us one of you're equations again. You know the ones, where ACL charge as high rent (or fees)as possible and it still being better financially than renting sixfields, justifying the milking of the club, but in a positive way. They're my favourite.
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Using that same logic. If you take the suxfields rent and equate it to the number of paying attendees Cardoza and NTFC are milking the club many times worse than ACL ever did. At least there was enough in the kitty from the ticket sales to pay the rent at the Ricoh. Also goes to prove that it never was and never will be about the rent.
 
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torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2014
  • #64
skybluetony176 said:
Using that same logic. If you take the suxfields rent and equate it to the number of paying attendees Cardoza and NTFC are milking the club many times worse than ACL ever did. At least there was enough in the kitty from the ticket sales ti pay the rent at the Ricoh. Also goes to prove that it never was and never will be about the rent.
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Subfields and now suxfields. The creative juices have been flowing


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torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2014
  • #65
letsallsingtogether said:
So Torch it is wrong to call someone a Sixfielder but it is alright when you call them Hillers, NOPM Brigade an such so the double standards are out again.

Oh and Grendel I was a westender a term that was used for decades any city supporter should know this.
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It was the tone rather than the name. But anyway, Moz sent me a text last night and it was sorted. My drama queen moment.

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torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2014
  • #66
Hobo said:
We even had the excellent fanzine called The Westender
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Excellent? It was rubbish. I found a stack of them in the loft not too long ago.

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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2014
  • #67
torchomatic said:
Subfields and now suxfields. The creative juices have been flowing


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Creative context aside I'm right though, aren't I.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2014
  • #68
skybluetony176 said:
Creative context aside I'm right though, aren't I.
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I wouldn't like to comment.

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MichaelCCFC

New Member
  • Apr 20, 2014
  • #69
To try and get this thread back on track...

Having slept on it, I remain genuinely shocked that when a group of City fans are doing nothing more than selling t-shirts with the message 'keep cov in cov' on and encouraging people to sign the FixFootball.co.uk ePetition (which everyone from Tim Fisher to Ann Lucas has signed) someone from the SCG would go out of their way to tell those fans that what they are doing is 'anti-sisu', they are completely wrong etc etc.

There have been several attempts to portray kcic, and me personally, as extreme and militant but the reality is kcic has never done anything that could be remotely classed as 'militant' and selling t-shirts with a widely supported message and promoting an ePetition calling to account all parties is not extreme! kcic is now reflecting mainstream opinion: acl/ccc have questions to answer but sisu are primarily responsible for moving us to NTFC; the key priority is getting us back to the Ricoh; what matters is the interests of the team and fans not a hedge fund or local authority. It is those, whether the scg member yesterday, certain posters on here, or the acl/ccc defenders who are ever more distant from the mainstream and are now at the extremes of what is going on
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2014
  • #70
torchomatic said:
I wouldn't like to comment.

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I'll take that as a yes ;-)
 
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