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  • Start date Dec 23, 2023
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fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 23, 2023
  • #36
Cally Fedora said:
The only player who worries me at the moment is Simms. All solid 8’s today with Simms 6.
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Why is it worrying you?

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play_in_skyblue_stripes

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  • Dec 23, 2023
  • #37
Mostly 6s and 7s . Scoreline is a bit misleading. Just need some forwards.

Strange from defence today, a fair bit of lapse passing at back but then again some committed defending.
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 23, 2023
  • #38
rob9872 said:
Robins 10

Was a masterclass in how he set us up, got the subs perfect for once and it looks really really promising. Hard not to get ott after a 3nil away win but I'm genuinely starting to believe anything is possible again after saying I thought mid-table this season before. 6 points from play offs, played 3 decent sides and gone unbeaten, no reason we can't be in the shake up again.

Happy Christmas, PUSB!!
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If we could start a season well we’d be autos candidates. Frustrating.
 
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stupot07

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  • Dec 23, 2023
  • #39
A really difficult game to rate players, we were really poor for large chunks of the game, and Sunderland dominated large chunks of the game and created a lot of chances, we were fortunate their finishing was poor. That said the only stat that counts in football is goals and we won 3-0.

Collins 8
MVE 6
Thomas 7
Kitching 7
Bidwell 6
Sheaf 7
Allen 6
Tats 8.5 MOTM
O'Hare 7.5
Wright 6
Simms 6

Subs
Eccles 7
Palmer 7
Lati 6
Dasilva


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rob9872

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  • Dec 23, 2023
  • #40
shmmeee said:
If we could start a season well we’d be autos candidates. Frustrating.
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Agree, but I think that's because it's always a blank canvas and such a staff turnover when the loans go back. Next season they're ours still so we can have that start and hopefully gain early momentum.
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Dec 23, 2023
  • #41
fernandopartridge said:
Why is it worrying you?

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Because we’ve spent a lot of money on him and he doesn’t look a very good player. Doesn’t move like a footballer or do anything naturally.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 23, 2023
  • #42
shmmeee said:
If we could start a season well we’d be autos candidates. Frustrating.
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The 21/22 season says hello
 
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Chris1987

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  • Dec 23, 2023
  • #43
Finally managed to get on a train going back.
Kitching yet again was outstanding . Thomas alternates between looking a World beater and being shit. MVE & Tats both very impressive but most importantly we're looking like a proper team now. CM addition and we challenge for the play offs.
PUSB
 
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robbiekeane

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  • Dec 23, 2023
  • #44
I was very pissed trying to watch this last night but luckily left iFollow on and passed out so this morning I just started it from the beginning

Cannot get enough of MWE and Sakamoto
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 23, 2023
  • #45
stupot07 said:
A really difficult game to rate players, we were really poor for large chunks of the game, and Sunderland dominated large chunks of the game and created a lot of chances, we were fortunate their finishing was poor. That said the only stat that counts in football is goals and we won 3-0.

Collins 8
MVE 6
Thomas 7
Kitching 7
Bidwell 6
Sheaf 7
Allen 6
Tats 8.5 MOTM
O'Hare 7.5
Wright 6
Simms 6

Subs
Eccles 7
Palmer 7
Lati 6
Dasilva


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Collins clearances on occasion were awful
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 23, 2023
  • #46
Cally Fedora said:
Because we’ve spent a lot of money on him and he doesn’t look a very good player. Doesn’t move like a footballer or do anything naturally.
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This is as silly as the extend a 4 year contract stuff

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wingy

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  • Dec 23, 2023
  • #47
Cally Fedora said:
Because we’ve spent a lot of money on him and he doesn’t look a very good player. Doesn’t move like a footballer or do anything naturally.
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Unless he's not hitting targets that trigger stage payments?
 

slowpoke

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  • Dec 23, 2023
  • #48
This was. a classic case of us doing our homework and implementing it to the full, nullify for the first half nick a goal but dominate the second, get the game won and with another game two days manage the game until it’s over. We are starting to develop into an excellent team, so much so I expect to get something from every match AND we will add quality to the squad January.
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Dec 23, 2023
  • #49
fernandopartridge said:
This is as silly as the extend a 4 year contract stuff

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Why’s that? He’s impressed you then? When? With what?
 

Blind-Faith

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  • Dec 23, 2023
  • #50
Collins 6.5
Van Ewijk 7
Thomas 8 MOTM
Kitching 8
Bidwell 7
Sheaf 7
Allen 5
O'Hare 7.5
Sakamota 7.5
Wright 7
Simms 6
 

ccfc_Tom

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  • Dec 23, 2023
  • #51
Thomas and Kitching are looking a great partnership. Kitching was quality today, motm for me.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Dec 23, 2023
  • #52
fernandopartridge said:
Why is it worrying you?

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He's not worrying me but games are passing by and he isn't even get close to scoring.

Haji had a funny game today. Gave the ball away in some dangerous areas but was involved in all the goals.

Godden has a good goal record despite a quiet patch.

I'd love us to get a LW and play Haji down the middle.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 23, 2023
  • #53
pusbccfc said:
He's not worrying me but games are passing by and he isn't even get close to scoring.

Haji had a funny game today. Gave the ball away in some dangerous areas but was involved in all the goals.

Godden has a good goal record despite a quiet patch.

I'd love us to get a LW and play Haji down the middle.
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He did a brilliant job doing a thankless task at Leeds last week. Wright is doing fine down the flanks, keep him there.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Dec 23, 2023
  • #54
Brighton Sky Blue said:
He did a brilliant job doing a thankless task at Leeds last week. Wright is doing fine down the flanks, keep him there.
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When we were under the cosh, Haji was serious struggling. Going forward he does a good job.

Agreed that Simms was good at Leeds.
 

Martin180

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  • Dec 23, 2023
  • #55
pusbccfc said:
When we were under the cosh, Haji was serious struggling. Going forward he does a good job.

Agreed that Simms was good at Leeds.
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He is a forward to be fair to him , his game is always going to be better on the front foot . And he was involved in all the goals
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 23, 2023
  • #56
pusbccfc said:
When we were under the cosh, Haji was serious struggling. Going forward he does a good job.

Agreed that Simms was good at Leeds.
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It isn't or at least shouldn't be Wright's responsibility to get back and defend.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Dec 23, 2023
  • #57
Martin180 said:
He is a forward to be fair to him , his game is always going to be better on the front foot . And he was involved in all the goals
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
It isn't or at least shouldn't be Wright's responsibility to get back and defend.
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Exactly. Totally agree. Hence why he struggled when we were under pressure.

4-3-3 quickly turns into 4-5-1 when under the cosh.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Dec 23, 2023
  • #58
Brighton Sky Blue said:
He did a brilliant job doing a thankless task at Leeds last week. Wright is doing fine down the flanks, keep him there.
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I thought Simms played well last week, but not quite at the level of gushing we've seen attributed to him for it.

Today he wasn't very good at all, actually I would say I could probably be a lot less polite. Scored in one game all season and hasn't had many more matches where I would say he's actually played well.

Wright gets the attention because of the headline transfer fee, but I think that keeps Simms in the shadows. For 3.5 million up front I don't think it's unfair to say he's been awful. Hopefully that changes going forward, but I think there's some serious denial to say in half a year what he's produced is really acceptable.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Dec 23, 2023
  • #59
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I thought Simms played well last week, but not quite at the level of gushing we've seen attributed to him for it.

Today he wasn't very good at all, actually I would say I could probably be a lot less polite. Scored in one game all season and hasn't had many more matches where I would say he's actually played well.

Wright gets the attention because of the headline transfer fee, but I think that keeps Simms in the shadows. For 3.5 million up front I don't think it's unfair to say he's been awful. Hopefully that changes going forward, but I think there's some serious denial to say in half a year what he's produced is really acceptable.
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Simms getting 2 goals and zero assists in 23 games is a poor for any attacking player. Others in the past have been hammered for better records.

I'm glad we are still getting behind him.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 23, 2023
  • #60
Cally Fedora said:
Why’s that? He’s impressed you then? When? With what?
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Good movement, hold up play. Has shown he can finish. Describing him as not looking like a footballer just makes you look like an utterly clueless clown.

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 23, 2023
  • #61
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I thought Simms played well last week, but not quite at the level of gushing we've seen attributed to him for it.

Today he wasn't very good at all, actually I would say I could probably be a lot less polite. Scored in one game all season and hasn't had many more matches where I would say he's actually played well.

Wright gets the attention because of the headline transfer fee, but I think that keeps Simms in the shadows. For 3.5 million up front I don't think it's unfair to say he's been awful. Hopefully that changes going forward, but I think there's some serious denial to say in half a year what he's produced is really acceptable.
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Awful is harsh but it’s not unfair to say he hasn’t been what we expected.
 
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Martin180

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  • Dec 23, 2023
  • #62
My personal opinion of Simms is that I expected more goals but Robins kept him out of the firing line early season when we were struggling. Since he has returned his goals haven't increased but his value to the formation and side certainly has . He has raw pace and is a big unit who has the ability to stretch a game and in doing that he creates a lot of space for others to work in
If I were to rate him over the season it would be a 6

He still does have a hell of a lot of potential to work with and at the age of 22 I would keep playing him
 
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Londonccfcfan

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  • Dec 24, 2023
  • #63
pusbccfc said:
Simms getting 2 goals and zero assists in 23 games is a poor for any attacking player. Others in the past have been hammered for better records.

I'm glad we are still getting behind him.
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A bit misleading..that's ridiculous.

He basinally created the huddersfield goal out of nothing that his crossbar and Ayari bundled in. Amongst a few others.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Dec 24, 2023
  • #64
Londonccfcfan said:
A bit misleading..that's ridiculous.

He basinally created the huddersfield goal out of nothing that his crossbar and Ayari bundled in. Amongst a few others.
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I'm not trying to criticise him but stating a fact. Players have been slated for records like that.

You're right with the involvement. It's similar to Wright with Palmers. He's an inch away from a touch which is considered an assist.
 
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Martin180

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  • Dec 24, 2023
  • #65
pusbccfc said:
I'm not trying to criticise him but stating a fact. Players have been slated for records like that.

You're right with the involvement. It's similar to Wright with Palmers. He's an inch away from a touch which is considered an assist.
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Honest question. In this formation who would you play in his place ? Godden simply doesn't have the attributes to do it
I'm happy that Simms starts in the short term,if and when we struggle I'll question his value to the team
 

harvey098

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  • Dec 24, 2023
  • #66
O’Hare is just immense. He influences the urgency to the whole team.

Hate to leave any negative after a 3-0 away win but Collins is a liability. I’ve said it since he came in but he parries every shot straight back into the oppo’s striker. It’s bizarre. Hes made more mistakes in the few games he’s played for us than Wilson has in his whole time with us. Only negative of an unbelievably brilliant day
 
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Martin180

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  • Dec 24, 2023
  • #67
harvey098 said:
O’Hare is just immense. He influences the urgency to the whole team.

Hate to leave any negative after a 3-0 away win but Collins is a liability. I’ve said it since he came in but he parries every shot straight back into the oppo’s striker. It’s bizarre. Hes made more mistakes in the few games he’s played for us than Wilson has in his whole time with us. Only negative of an unbelievably brilliant day
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Wow ,just wow
For me we've been unbelievably more secure with Collins
Just seems a very bizarre post
 
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harvey098

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  • Dec 24, 2023
  • #68
Martin180 said:
Wow ,just wow
For me we've been unbelievably more secure with Collins
Just seems a very bizarre post
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We’ll revisit this later in the season but just watch how many shots he parries back into the danger area that should’ve been parried clear of danger or even caught.

It’s gone under the radar because of poor finishing from the opposition but that shouldn’t make the mistake moot.
 
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Martin180

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  • Dec 24, 2023
  • #69
harvey098 said:
We’ll revisit this later in the season but just watch how many shots he parries back into the danger area that should’ve been parried clear of danger or even caught.

It’s gone under the radar because of poor finishing from the opposition but that shouldn’t make the mistake moot.
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I get that parrying shots is the modern way , Wilson was more than guilty of doing the same.
Collins offers so much more, comfortable with the ball at his feet and for me a better shot stopper
Personally think you are grasping at straws mate
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 24, 2023
  • #70
Yeah you catch the ball and pass the ball way more than you stop shots as a GK and Wilson is miles worse at both.
 
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