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  • Start date Jul 31, 2022
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Grendel

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  • Jul 31, 2022
  • #36
Perryccfc said:
Talk of lack of footballing understanding, Grendal appears.

What’s to moan about today clueless? Boddy over and under priced anyone else recently?
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Its you who said Hamer bossed midfield - no one agrees with you do they? Who kn earth was man marking him?
 

Perryccfc

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  • Jul 31, 2022
  • #37
Grendel said:
Its you who said Hamer bossed midfield - no one agrees with you do they? Who kn earth was man marking him?
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Watch it back my friend.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 31, 2022
  • #38
Grendel said:
He bossed midfield - Christ
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He did, we dominated the game

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Sick Boy

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  • Jul 31, 2022
  • #39
Perryccfc said:
Hamer getting 5s shows some people’s complete lack of footballing understanding. He wasn’t at his usual level in terms of delivery, but he absolutely bossed the midfield despite being man marked for most of the game. Stupid booking mind. It’s like he needs to get that out of the way so he can start playing.
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Wow, just wow.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 31, 2022
  • #40
The Philosopher said:
I thought he was solid and brought the ball out and linked up well.
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His body language was impatient and that matched itself in his general performance.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 31, 2022
  • #41
Moore 5 - A terrible flap for the goal. Said it before, his decision making since he came back from Covid has been eccentric on occasion. Harder to use Covid as an excuse as time goes by, however...
Eccles 4 - I like him, think he looked excellent in his cameo at RWB last season, but this was a poor game. Offered nothing, couldn't cross, and his first touch travelled half the pitch on occasion.
Hyam 6 - average, could be better, could be worse.
McFadzean 7 - every season people think he's on his way out, every season he drags us along and still looks capable at this level.
Panzo 8 - good debut - he's a brick shithouse isn't he! And a good shot on him it seems, too.
Bidwell - 5.5 Got caught for the goal, improved second half, offered some kind of threat now and again, unlike Eccles.
Hamer 5 - hmm, not a lot to be said.
Sheaf 6 - tidy, little impact.
Allen 5 - lovely quick feet in the penalty area once, but other than that anonymous.
Godden 5 - off the pace.
Gyokeres 7 - saved by the goal. First half was poor, made a bad decision or two as well, but great strike, and showed his strength when having his shirt ripped off too.

Palmer, Tavares, Walker 6. None of them looked outstanding but they all contributed to an uptick in tempo.
Dabo - 8 Dynamic, turned the game so instead of defending we were worrying them on the right. OK, we miss O'Hare, but this shows we miss a fully fit Dabo, too.
 
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Danceswithhorses

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  • Jul 31, 2022
  • #42
Brighton Sky Blue said:
All round performance 6/10

Moore 6
Bidwell 6
Eccles 5
Panzo 8 MOTM
McF 6
Hyam 6
Hamer 5
Sheaf 6
Allen 5
Godden 5
Gyo 7

Subs
Tavares 6
Palmer 6
Dabo 6
Walker 6
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Spot on
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 31, 2022
  • #43
Other than one ball through to Gyokeres and missing a sitter did godden do anything
 

Hobo

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  • Jul 31, 2022
  • #44
Moore 6 at fault for goal but recovered and made some good saves
Eccles 5 big occassion struggled a bit v very good opponent.
Hyam 7 did well but got under ball a bit for first goal.
McFadzean 7 solid.
Panzo 8 really impressed with him.
Bidwell 6 did okay caught flat footed for first goal.
Hamer 6 inconsistent game by his standards and silly needless booking.
Sheaf 7 Solid
Allen 6 worked hard was in first half if Gykores had squared ball to him.
Gyokeres 7 Ran channels well and was a handful for their defence. The goal was a peach.
Godden 5 Not his best game and missed best chance of the game.

Palmer 6 needs a few more minutes to get fully up to speed. But we all know that.
Tavares 7 had some nice touches and linked well with Dabo.
Dabo 7 Benefited from the game starting to be stretched and wide positions of Tavares. Not sure it would have worked so well from start - also think his fitness doesnt need to be rushed.
Walker 6 did okay when came on.o
 
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Terry_dactyl

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  • Jul 31, 2022
  • #45
Grendel said:
Other than one ball through to Gyokeres and missing a sitter did godden do anything
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I thought Walker got more involved in his cameo.
 
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GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee

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  • Jul 31, 2022
  • #46
Grendel said:
Other than one ball through to Gyokeres and missing a sitter did godden do anything
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He was poor/completely anonymous. He’s built up enough credit with the fans but Walker/Waghorn would be (rightly or wrongly) panned for that display


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Evo1883

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  • Jul 31, 2022
  • #47
Thought Eccles, allen ,godden , hamer and sheaf really wernt at the races today

It's the first game of the season, and we take the point
 
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SAJ

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  • Jul 31, 2022
  • #48
Brighton Sky Blue said:
All round performance 6/10

Moore 6
Bidwell 6
Eccles 5
Panzo 8 MOTM
McF 6
Hyam 6
Hamer 5
Sheaf 6
Allen 5
Godden 5
Gyo 7

Subs
Tavares 6
Palmer 6
Dabo 6
Walker 6
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Think I’d go with these. But apparently it doesn’t matter because I know fuck all about football according to some.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jul 31, 2022
  • #49
Grendel said:
Its you who said Hamer bossed midfield - no one agrees with you do they? Who kn earth was man marking him?
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I agree with him.

So Grendel is wrong again shocker.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Jul 31, 2022
  • #50
Panzo is going to end up a fans favourite. One of those loans that breaks hearts when it's time to go back.

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stupot07

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  • Jul 31, 2022
  • #51
Just looking at WhoScored.com

Jamie Allen touched the ball just 23 times in 61 mins, which includes just 15 passes playing in midfield for a team who dominated possession, is pretty poor.

Hamer had 74 and Sheaf 68 in 90 mins.



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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 31, 2022
  • #52
SAJ said:
Think I’d go with these. But apparently it doesn’t matter because I know fuck all about football according to some.
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Hamer looked rattled for a lot of the game and wasn’t at his best. To me he didn’t boss anything but again I could also be clueless
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 31, 2022
  • #53
TomRad85 said:
Panzo is going to end up a fans favourite. One of those loans that breaks hearts when it's time to go back.

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If indeed we were after him 2 years ago the scouts were right.
 

Evo1883

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  • Jul 31, 2022
  • #54
Not sure I saw hamer bossing the midfield , first half hamer and sheaf were all over the shop .. now please bear in mind I rate both these players highly .. also Allen who may aswell have been sat in the changing room and Eccles who simply is NOT a wing back .. were the main reasons we struggled ro get any kind of rythem first half
 
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mmttww

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  • Jul 31, 2022
  • #55
Moore - 5
Mistake for the goal, claimed a low cross well, one regulation save. Needs to be better.

Eccles - 4
Just didn't seem to offer anything. Hope he isn't used there again any time soon!

Hyam - 6
Didn't see him do anything wrong, don't remember him doing much in possession.

Fadz - 7
Always offering for the ball, no clear mistakes, worried we have no one to cover him.

Panzo - 8 (MOM)
Looks an upgrade at LCB. Him, fit for 30+ games will make a huge impact.

Bidwell - 5
Better second half, want to see more from him going fwd. Hopeful he'll improve.

Hamer - 6
Booking was shameful with Sheaf two yards away. D*ckhead. Otherwise, decent game.

Sheaf - 7
Passing was good, made some great tackles esp. towards the end. Just shoot next time!

Allen - 5
He's not capable of playing alone behind the strikers and being effective. Poor game.

Godden - 5
Terrible miss. Don't remember much that he did that helped us. Worked hard.

Vik - 8
A threat on his own so often, two great crosses we never made use of, brilliant goal.


Palmer looked decent, Dabo needs to start as soon as he can and Robins deserves credit for working on 433 as that could make a real difference. Walker looked better linking play and holding it up than I remember seeing before. Tavares, I'm not convinced but want to see him more, esp. wide in the 433.
 
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Jamesimus

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  • Jul 31, 2022
  • #56
Grendel said:
Its you who said Hamer bossed midfield - no one agrees with you do they? Who kn earth was man marking him?
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Sunderland fans highlighted him as being one of the best players on the park, just so you know...

He did some frustrating things and his delivery was uncharacteristically poor from set pieces today.
 

larry_david

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  • Jul 31, 2022
  • #57
stupot07 said:
Just looking at WhoScored.com

Jamie Allen touched the ball just 23 times in 61 mins, which includes just 15 passes playing in midfield for a team who dominated possession, is pretty poor.

Hamer had 74 and Sheaf 68 in 90 mins.



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I'm surprised it was that many
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 31, 2022
  • #58
Jamesimus said:
Sunderland fans highlighted him as being one of the best players on the park, just so you know...

He did some frustrating things and his delivery was uncharacteristically poor from set pieces today.
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I would disagree. Panzo bailed us out more than once defensively, looked positive on the ball and came a whisker away from goal of the season on debut.
 
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Jamesimus

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  • Jul 31, 2022
  • #59
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I would disagree. Panzo bailed us out more than once defensively, looked positive on the ball and came a whisker away from goal of the season on debut.
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Oh I agree, I think Panzo was my MOTM today. Just pointing out what some of the Mackems are saying is all, also mentioning Panzo. Always interesting to see opposition fan views - they're often less clouded by agendas etc than the views of some on here!

Hamer and Sheaf were much better in the second half, I imagine largely because for most of it they had more bodies to pass to in front of them.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 31, 2022
  • #60
Jamesimus said:
Oh I agree, I think Panzo was my MOTM today. Just pointing out what some of the Mackems are saying is all, also mentioning Panzo. Always interesting to see opposition fan views - they're often less clouded by agendas etc than the views of some on here!

Hamer and Sheaf were much better in the second half, I imagine largely because for most of it they had more bodies to pass to in front of them.
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Sheaf’s first half through ball to Bidwell was pretty orgasmic to be fair
 
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procdoc

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  • Jul 31, 2022
  • #61
Take it Bidwell is the new boo boy?
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jul 31, 2022
  • #62
procdoc said:
Take it Bidwell is the new boo boy?
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He was far from our worst player but his crossing was terrible
 

pusbccfc

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  • Jul 31, 2022
  • #63
Grendel said:
Other than one ball through to Gyokeres and missing a sitter did godden do anything
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Same as all Godden performances. I'm impressed how slow he is.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jul 31, 2022
  • #64
Deleted member 5849 said:
Moore 5 - A terrible flap for the goal. Said it before, his decision making since he came back from Covid has been eccentric on occasion. Harder to use Covid as an excuse as time goes by, however...
Eccles 4 - I like him, think he looked excellent in his cameo at RWB last season, but this was a poor game. Offered nothing, couldn't cross, and his first touch travelled half the pitch on occasion.
Hyam 6 - average, could be better, could be worse.
McFadzean 7 - every season people think he's on his way out, every season he drags us along and still looks capable at this level.
Panzo 8 - good debut - he's a brick shithouse isn't he! And a good shot on him it seems, too.
Bidwell - 5.5 Got caught for the goal, improved second half, offered some kind of threat now and again, unlike Eccles.
Hamer 5 - hmm, not a lot to be said.
Sheaf 6 - tidy, little impact.
Allen 5 - lovely quick feet in the penalty area once, but other than that anonymous.
Godden 5 - off the pace.
Gyokeres 7 - saved by the goal. First half was poor, made a bad decision or two as well, but great strike, and showed his strength when having his shirt ripped off too.

Palmer, Tavares, Walker 6. None of them looked outstanding but they all contributed to an uptick in tempo.
Dabo - 8 Dynamic, turned the game so instead of defending we were worrying them on the right. OK, we miss O'Hare, but this shows we miss a fully fit Dabo, too.
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Might have gone a bit higher on Sheaf but otherwise I agree.
Made the Moore Covid point in the pub and it didnt have a lot of traction but he's definitely not been the same since in my opinion
 
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fatso

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  • Jul 31, 2022
  • #65
I said before the game that we should start with 1 upfront, and we'd need the extra man in midfield, and this is how it played out.
Sunderland started quickly and pressed us high, and we couldn't get any possession in the final third. An extra body in midfield would of made the difference (imho)
We could of started with Dabo at RWB and Eccles in CMF, and left Godden on the bench, we would of competed far better in the first half if set up.like that.

However, you can't legislate for Moore gifting them a goal with his howler.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 31, 2022
  • #66
Deleted member 9744 said:
I agree with him.

So Grendel is wrong again shocker.
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To be fair you clearly know your stuff

O hare doesn’t flatter to deceive

DOD Ah yes his ‘inside knowledge’
www.skybluestalk.co.uk
 

grahamparsons68

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  • Jul 31, 2022
  • #67
Can we get the Lionesses goalkeeper? She takes crosses like Oggy (excluding the 87 cup final of course)!
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jul 31, 2022
  • #68
Grendel said:
To be fair you clearly know your stuff

O hare doesn’t flatter to deceive

DOD Ah yes his ‘inside knowledge’
www.skybluestalk.co.uk
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I think he was playing along there, you can do better
 

MacReady

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  • Jul 31, 2022
  • #69
Deleted member 5849 said:
Moore 5 - A terrible flap for the goal. Said it before, his decision making since he came back from Covid has been eccentric on occasion. Harder to use Covid as an excuse as time goes by, however...
Eccles 4 - I like him, think he looked excellent in his cameo at RWB last season, but this was a poor game. Offered nothing, couldn't cross, and his first touch travelled half the pitch on occasion.
Hyam 6 - average, could be better, could be worse.
McFadzean 7 - every season people think he's on his way out, every season he drags us along and still looks capable at this level.
Panzo 8 - good debut - he's a brick shithouse isn't he! And a good shot on him it seems, too.
Bidwell - 5.5 Got caught for the goal, improved second half, offered some kind of threat now and again, unlike Eccles.
Hamer 5 - hmm, not a lot to be said.
Sheaf 6 - tidy, little impact.
Allen 5 - lovely quick feet in the penalty area once, but other than that anonymous.
Godden 5 - off the pace.
Gyokeres 7 - saved by the goal. First half was poor, made a bad decision or two as well, but great strike, and showed his strength when having his shirt ripped off too.

Palmer, Tavares, Walker 6. None of them looked outstanding but they all contributed to an uptick in tempo.
Dabo - 8 Dynamic, turned the game so instead of defending we were worrying them on the right. OK, we miss O'Hare, but this shows we miss a fully fit Dabo, too.
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I’d agree with this - I’m glad because with adhd and alcohol I’ve got the attention span of a gnat so really couldn’t be arsed writing anything that required effort.
 
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Offhegoes

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  • Jul 31, 2022
  • #70
Few thoughts.

Bidwell - He’s just not attack-minded enough for our system, where we need our WB’s to be bombing forward. He got badly done for the goal, but after that he was solid. Adaramola will be first choice LWB once bedded in

Moore - Rally poor error. If it was really that close between Moore & Wilson for the jersey, the latter should start against Rotherham.

Godden - OK he missed the sitter, but thought he played well, still not convinced he or Vik can play in a two.

Palmer - Impressed. Lovely touch and passing.
O’Hare & Palmer behind Vik is surely eventually going to be first choice.
 
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