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Ashdown

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  • Aug 21, 2023
  • #211
Quite , a difference at Hull 24 & 7 for a Dad and lad in the best seats. We will get a bad name out there and more boycotts if we are not careful.
 
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Brylowes

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  • Aug 21, 2023
  • #212
What is our capacity atm, I don’t mean the registered stadium capacity of 33.000ish, I mean the actual amount of seats available to purchase capacity ?
Once you deduct the ‘No man’s land’ in the South stand and the empty balcony in the main stand, what is left, no more than 28.000 I wouldn’t have thought and 4000 of those are allocated for away fans.
Its always difficult to sell-out to capacity (24,000 for Cov fans ) as when it gets near capacity you end up with a load of single seats and seats in areas people don’t particularly want to sit, so we struggle to sell them.
So we up about 2000 under capacity.
If the club were to open all areas giving fans more choice and the opportunity to sit with their mates, families etc I honestly think we’d be seeing gates now 26.000 to 30.00.
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Aug 21, 2023
  • #213
letsallsingtogether said:
Got to admit have meet many Sunderland fans while on holiday.
I have the same 2 weeks off every year and it corresponds with their fortnight off.
Most say we are cheats believing we are the only reason they are shit most delusional fans out there living in the shadow of Newcastle.
Twice we have played them live on the telly while I was on holiday first time they sent a 7 year old to my table to taught me and my son who was about 5 himself a bar full of them and just us two City fans.
We won 2-0 think the second goal was a penalty (cheated again) first game of the season early 2000s
Should have seen the bar as we were the only 2 cheering bar a couple of Newcastle fans what a great day that was.

Loved it hated them ever since, horrible horrible fans.
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Yeah and the Leicester fans are just as bad, we should know !!!
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Aug 21, 2023
  • #214
Brylowes said:
What is our capacity atm, I don’t mean the registered stadium capacity of 33.000ish, I mean the actual amount of seats available to purchase capacity ?
Once you deduct the ‘No man’s land’ in the South stand and the empty balcony in the main stand, what is left, no more than 28.000 I wouldn’t have thought and 4000 of those are allocated for away fans.
Its always difficult to sell-out to capacity (24,000 for Cov fans ) as when it gets near capacity you end up with a load of single seats and seats in areas people don’t particularly want to sit, so we struggle to sell them.
So we up about 2000 under capacity.
If the club were to open all areas giving fans more choice and the opportunity to sit with their mates, families etc I honestly think we’d be seeing gates now 26.000 to 30.00.
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Yes agree, they should open up all of the North Stand now, people will hold off as they don't want to sit front row right in the corner which is all that's available with 2 or more together
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 21, 2023
  • #215
Hull are an extreme example the other way. They are under priced in general - They do not actually have season tickets in name but a monthly membership scheme - its undervaluing its product
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Aug 21, 2023
  • #216
Boicey said:
Somethin's gone mad in the world when we are trying to charge kids of working class parents £25 a ticket so we can pay players £20,000 a week to reach the promised land of paying players £50,000 a week with even higher ticket prices.
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I empathise with that viewpoint, but what do you expect to happen if we do meet the 'promised land'?
 

Robinshio

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  • Aug 21, 2023
  • #217
i think sunderland have 450 tickets left, and looking at selling out the away end
 

Evo1883

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  • Aug 21, 2023
  • #218



From this morning


They've not sold loads , about 150
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Aug 21, 2023
  • #219
Grendel said:
Hull are an extreme example the other way. They are under priced in general - They do not actually have season tickets in name but a monthly membership scheme - its undervaluing its product
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And it’s in Hull
 
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theferret

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  • Aug 21, 2023
  • #220
Brylowes said:
What is our capacity atm, I don’t mean the registered stadium capacity of 33.000ish, I mean the actual amount of seats available to purchase capacity ?
Once you deduct the ‘No man’s land’ in the South stand and the empty balcony in the main stand, what is left, no more than 28.000 I wouldn’t have thought and 4000 of those are allocated for away fans.
Its always difficult to sell-out to capacity (24,000 for Cov fans ) as when it gets near capacity you end up with a load of single seats and seats in areas people don’t particularly want to sit, so we struggle to sell them.
So we up about 2000 under capacity.
If the club were to open all areas giving fans more choice and the opportunity to sit with their mates, families etc I honestly think we’d be seeing gates now 26.000 to 30.00.
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The current capacity is 30,000, as we achieved at the last but one league game.

The last paragraph I don't get, you think 4000 people are refusing to go because they haven't opened block 27, despite there being availability all round the ground?
 
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theferret

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  • Aug 21, 2023
  • #221
Grendel said:
Hull are an extreme example the other way. They are under priced in general - They do not actually have season tickets in name but a monthly membership scheme - its undervaluing its product
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There is a happy medium I think. The WBA pricing is spot on.
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 21, 2023
  • #222
Do WBA have the same ground situation as us.
 
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theferret

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  • Aug 21, 2023
  • #223
wingy said:
Do WBA have the same ground situation as us.
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What's that got to do with anything?
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 21, 2023
  • #224
Your comparing on price?
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 21, 2023
  • #225
What if the rent is based on bums on seats?
 
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theferret

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  • Aug 21, 2023
  • #226
wingy said:
What if the rent is based on bums on seats?i
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Are you suggesting it is? So we're trying to suppress crowds by pricing people out because the higher pricing obviously reduces gates. That's one batshit conspiracy..
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 21, 2023
  • #227
No I'm stating that the deal could be based on a % of each seat.
 
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theferret

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  • Aug 21, 2023
  • #228
wingy said:
No I'm stating that the deal could be based on a % of each seat.
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In which case it would be proportionate so it wouldn't matter. You'd rather give up 10% of a seat sold at £30 than 10% of a seat not sold at £37.
 

Londonccfcfan

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  • Aug 21, 2023
  • #229
Robinshio said:
i think sunderland have 450 tickets left, and looking at selling out the away end
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They been given 4k?
 
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CV22SBA

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  • Aug 21, 2023
  • #230
Evo1883 said:
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From this morning View attachment 31550


They've not sold loads , about 150
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Surely that’s a 4K allocation not 3K if we’re selling them tickets in blocks 7-10?
Block 10=1062
Block 9 =1072
Block 8=1112
Block 7=987
 
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theferret

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  • Aug 21, 2023
  • #231
CV22SBA said:
Surely that’s a 4K allocation not 3K if we’re selling them tickets in blocks 7-10?
Block 10=1062
Block 9 =1072
Block 8=1112
Block 7=987
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I think they've only opened up a few rows in block 10 so far.
 
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croatskyblue

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  • Aug 21, 2023
  • #232
theferret said:
Are you suggesting it is? So we're trying to suppress crowds by pricing people out because the higher pricing obviously reduces gates. That's one batshit conspiracy..
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You’ve been coming out with inaccurate statements & exaggerations all day- “11,000 left for sale” and so on.

Your position is clear, you think pricing is too high. Only time will tell on that, I think you may well be right, but you don’t have to use all these exaggerations to try and bulldoze the point home.
 
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Brylowes

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  • Aug 21, 2023
  • #233
theferret said:
The current capacity is 30,000, as we achieved at the last but one league game.

The last paragraph I don't get, you think 4000 people are refusing to go because they haven't opened block 27, despite there being availability all round the ground?
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The capacity can’t be 30.00 there’s a no man’s land full of seats probably 3000 to 4000, there’s a balcony full of seats probably 1500, so that’s 4500 to 5000 seats that aren’t available to purchase, which would make our capacity around 28000.
Of course people will be put off buying tickets if the look online and see a sprinkling of single seats available, people like to attend with mates, family etc and I doubt there’s many that go on their own.
I could understand leaving areas closed when we were attracting crowds of 10 to 15000 but we’re now attracting crowds around 25000 so why not make every seat available what does the club achieve by not doing so.
 
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SkyBlue80

Member
  • Aug 21, 2023
  • #234
Am I right in thinking that I can upgrade one of the kids' season tickets to an adult ticket for the day. Do I just do this on the day at the ticket office?
 
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hamertime

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  • Aug 21, 2023
  • #235
Brylowes said:
The capacity can’t be 30.00 there’s a no man’s land full of seats probably 3000 to 4000, there’s a balcony full of seats probably 1500, so that’s 4500 to 5000 seats that aren’t available to purchase, which would make our capacity around 28000.
Of course people will be put off buying tickets if the look online and see a sprinkling of single seats available, people like to attend with mates, family etc and I doubt there’s many that go on their own.
I could understand leaving areas closed when we were attracting crowds of 10 to 15000 but we’re now attracting crowds around 25000 so why not make every seat available what does the club achieve by not doing so.
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I genuinely just think they are that stupid.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 21, 2023
  • #236
SkyBlue80 said:
Am I right in thinking that I can upgrade one of the kids' season tickets to an adult ticket for the day. Do I just do this on the day at the ticket office?
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Email or phone to check
 
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Brylowes

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  • Aug 21, 2023
  • #237
hamertime said:
I genuinely just think they are that stupid.
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By insisting on selling almost every available seat before opening another block, and then almost selling that before opening another the club are definitely putting people off and costing themselves revenue.
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 21, 2023
  • #238
Is it or is it guaranteeing exclusivity?
 

slowpoke

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  • Aug 22, 2023
  • #239
Brylowes said:
The capacity can’t be 30.00 there’s a no man’s land full of seats probably 3000 to 4000, there’s a balcony full of seats probably 1500, so that’s 4500 to 5000 seats that aren’t available to purchase, which would make our capacity around 28000.
Of course people will be put off buying tickets if the look online and see a sprinkling of single seats available, people like to attend with mates, family etc and I doubt there’s many that go on their own.
I could understand leaving areas closed when we were attracting crowds of 10 to 15000 but we’re now attracting crowds around 25000 so why not make every seat available what does the club achieve by not doing so.
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The North Stand no-mans land definitely needs looking at, watched the Spurs/Man Utd match at the weekend historically not the friendliest fixture and the no-mans land was about 6 seats and a line of stewards.
 

pusbccfc

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  • Aug 22, 2023
  • #240
theferret said:
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Somebody needs to message Hull asap, they are not maximising revenues. Idiots
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Exceptional prices and they are investing in their team.

Hull attendances have increased by about 5000 in the last year.
 

pusbccfc

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  • Aug 22, 2023
  • #241
bigfatronssba said:
I understand what you’re saying, honestly I do. I’m playing devils advocate slightly.

I just find it hilarious that people think 22k home fans is poor
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It is, these days. Home crowds are well up since covid.

Our crowds were only shit due to being the worst club in England to support. Our PL crowds of the 90 were comparable to the likes of Leicester and Southampton who consistently get 30k+ now.

The rise to an average of 20-22k is not really that impressive for a city of our size.
 

pusbccfc

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  • Aug 22, 2023
  • #242
Sunderland have 350 left.
 

Astute

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  • Aug 22, 2023
  • #243
wingy said:
What if the rent is based on bums on seats?
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If it is down to bums on seats safe standing areas can't come quick enough.
 
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Ashdown

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  • Aug 22, 2023
  • #244
pusbccfc said:
Sunderland have 350 left.
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Out of how many ?
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Aug 22, 2023
  • #245
Ashdown said:
Out of how many ?
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3000
 
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