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Rob Roy

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  • Tuesday at 11:44 AM
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Thought I'd come on and give you the gory details about your opponents on Friday and next Tuesday, because I don't think either your support or the wider footballing world has any inkling whatsoever how poor we are - and have been for months.

We go into this game on the back of 7 defeats out of the last 10 games with 5 consecutive losses but that is by no means the worst of it. You probably aren't aware but we have defeated just 1 team by more than 1 goal since last November and have scored just 33 goals in our last 34 league games. We've had something like 3 shots on target in the last 4 games.

We did have a canny home record but that fell apart weeks ago and we have now lost at home to the likes of Hull City, Blackburn Rovers, Swansea City and last Saturday lost to QPR - the team that not one week ago Burnley put to the sword 5 v 0 at Loftus Road. We are playing slow, ponderous football and the goals we concede are invariably shit and totally avoidable - eg the forward given time and space to pick his spot, unmarked inside the box.

There can be absolutely no doubt about this, irrespective of what the bookies say, that Coventry are the overwhelming favourites to go to Wembley - and I would have great difficulty making a case for Sunderland winning over 2 legs. The thing that's amazed me is how we have swanned about in 4rth place for the last 5 months with not one team putting any pressure on us whatsoever. Mystifying. What have you all been doing? Why did no one catch us?

I came on here after you beat us 3 v 0 and had to laugh at your reaction to beating us - as though you'd just beaten the 1970 Brazilians. We were absolute rubbish, you'd beaten a rank average team and our performance was utterly laughable.

I've also read things like - "we will have to take a lead to the SOL because it will be a tough game up there" etc. - are you joking? You are aware that even if by some miracle the game ends 0 v 0 on Friday you will still remain overwhelming favourites to win at the SOL - just as everyone else has. "we aren't very good away" - yes and you wont have to be - do you think that QPR last Saturday had Pele and Carlos Alberto playing for them? And of course if you win 2 v 0 on Friday then effectively that's the tie over; as we would be left to do what we have done just once since last November (see above).

There are no depths to which SAFC has not plummeted over the last 50 years and as a result I don't know one Sunderland fan who thinks that SAFC will win. Everyone I talk to about the game expects the worse and our team will likely have no shame about embarrassing our club once again.

Our manager is rumoured to be leaving for QPR once the season is done and TBH I don't think many will shed much tears as he was found out months ago.

Would it be any different if we had played Bristol City? The short answer is no it wouldn't. You wont be aware but we have a crap record against them as well and haven't beaten them at home - never mind away - since 1994 (we have never beaten them at the Stadium Of Light).

So what will it take for SAFC to win? Well we would have to play totally different to how we have played in the last 5 months and play as we did in the first few weeks - where we topped the table. We played really well, played with pace, hunted the opposition in packs and had a high energy, high tempo about us.

So in the end it doesn't look good for us and there are a load of SAFC fans waiting too see what happens on Friday before buying tickets for Tuesday. If it goes horribly wrong on Friday then the crowd on Wearside will not be the expected 46k - 48k.

I don't like being so negative about our chances but you don't have to be the 1970 Brazilians to beat us; all you need to be is patient, well organised and be prepared to put some effort in - and that seems to be enough ie its all QPR, Hull or Blackburn did.

Can't say I'm nervous at all about Friday, given that my expectation is zero.
 
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LarryGrayson

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  • Tuesday at 11:47 AM
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lol
 

clint van damme

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  • Tuesday at 11:48 AM
  • #3
Rob Roy said:
Thought I'd come on and give you the gory details about your opponents on Friday and next Tuesday, because I don't think either your support or the wider footballing world has any inkling whatsoever how poor we are - and have been for months.

We go into this game on the back of 7 defeats out of the last 10 games with 5 consecutive losses but that is by no means the worst of it. You probably aren't aware but we have defeated just 1 team by more than 1 goal since last November and have scored just 33 goals in our last 34 league games. We've had something like 3 shots on target in the last 4 games.

We did have a canny home record but that fell apart weeks ago and we have now lost at home to the likes of Hull City, Blackburn Rovers, Swansea City and last Saturday lost to QPR - the team that not one week ago Burnley put to the sword 5 v 0 at Loftus Road. We are playing slow, ponderous football and the goals we concede are invariably shit and totally avoidable - eg the forward given time and space to pick his spot, unmarked inside the box.

There can be absolutely no doubt about this, irrespective of what the bookies say, that Coventry are the overwhelming favourites to go to Wembley - and I would have great difficulty making a case for Sunderland winning over 2 legs. The thing that's amazed me is how we have swanned about in 4rth place for the last 5 months with not one team putting any pressure on us whatsoever. Mystifying. What have you all been doing? Why did no one catch us?

I came on here after you beat us 3 v 0 and had to laugh at your reaction to beating us - as though you'd just beaten the 1970 Brazilians. We were absolute rubbish, you'd beaten a rank average team and our performance was utterly laughable.

I've also read things like - "we will have to take a lead to the SOL because it will be a tough game up there" etc. - are you joking? You are aware that even if by some miracle the game ends 0 v 0 on Friday you will still remain overwhelming favourites to win at the SOL - just as everyone else has. "we aren't very good away" - yes and you wont have to be - do you think that QPR last Saturday had Pele and Carlos Alberto playing for them? And of course if you win 2 v 0 on Friday then effectively that's the tie over; as we would be left to do what we have done just once since last November (see above).

There are no depths to which SAFC has not plummeted over the last 50 years and as a result I don't know one Sunderland fan who thinks that SAFC will win. Everyone I talk to about the game expects the worse and our team will likely have no shame about embarrassing our club once again.

Our manager is rumoured to be leaving for QPR once the season is done and TBH I don't think many will shed much tears as he was found out months ago.

Would it be any different if we had played Bristol City? The short answer is no it wouldn't. You wont be aware but we have a crap record against them as well and haven't beaten them at home - never mind away - since 1994 (we have never beaten them at the Stadium Of Light).

So what will it take for SAFC to win? Well we would have to play totally different to how we have played in the last 5 months and play as we did in the first few weeks - where we topped the table. We played really well, played with pace, hunted the opposition in packs and had a high energy, high tempo about us.

So in the end it doesn't look good for us and there are a load of SAFC fans waiting too see what happens on Friday before buying tickets for Tuesday. If it goes horribly wrong on Friday then the crowd on Wearside will not be the expected 46k - 48k.

I don't like being so negative about our chances but you don't have to be the 1970 Brazilians to beat us; all you need to be is patient, well organised and be prepared to put some effort in - and that seems to be enough ie its all QPR, Hull or Blackburn did.

Can't say I'm nervous at all about Friday, given that my expectation is zero.
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Where did it go wrong given your early season form?
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Tuesday at 11:48 AM
  • #4
Rob Roy said:
Thought I'd come on and give you the gory details about your opponents on Friday and next Tuesday, because I don't think either your support or the wider footballing world has any inkling whatsoever how poor we are - and have been for months.

We go into this game on the back of 7 defeats out of the last 10 games with 5 consecutive losses but that is by no means the worst of it. You probably aren't aware but we have defeated just 1 team by more than 1 goal since last November and have scored just 33 goals in our last 34 league games. We've had something like 3 shots on target in the last 4 games.

We did have a canny home record but that fell apart weeks ago and we have now lost at home to the likes of Hull City, Blackburn Rovers, Swansea City and last Saturday lost to QPR - the team that not one week ago Burnley put to the sword 5 v 0 at Loftus Road. We are playing slow, ponderous football and the goals we concede are invariably shit and totally avoidable - eg the forward given time and space to pick his spot, unmarked inside the box.

There can be absolutely no doubt about this, irrespective of what the bookies say, that Coventry are the overwhelming favourites to go to Wembley - and I would have great difficulty making a case for Sunderland winning over 2 legs. The thing that's amazed me is how we have swanned about in 4rth place for the last 5 months with not one team putting any pressure on us whatsoever. Mystifying. What have you all been doing? Why did no one catch us?

I came on here after you beat us 3 v 0 and had to laugh at your reaction to beating us - as though you'd just beaten the 1970 Brazilians. We were absolute rubbish, you'd beaten a rank average team and our performance was utterly laughable.

I've also read things like - "we will have to take a lead to the SOL because it will be a tough game up there" etc. - are you joking? You are aware that even if by some miracle the game ends 0 v 0 on Friday you will still remain overwhelming favourites to win at the SOL - just as everyone else has. "we aren't very good away" - yes and you wont have to be - do you think that QPR last Saturday had Pele and Carlos Alberto playing for them? And of course if you win 2 v 0 on Friday then effectively that's the tie over; as we would be left to do what we have done just once since last November (see above).

There are no depths to which SAFC has not plummeted over the last 50 years and as a result I don't know one Sunderland fan who thinks that SAFC will win. Everyone I talk to about the game expects the worse and our team will likely have no shame about embarrassing our club once again.

Our manager is rumoured to be leaving for QPR once the season is done and TBH I don't think many will shed much tears as he was found out months ago.

Would it be any different if we had played Bristol City? The short answer is no it wouldn't. You wont be aware but we have a crap record against them as well and haven't beaten them at home - never mind away - since 1994 (we have never beaten them at the Stadium Of Light).

So what will it take for SAFC to win? Well we would have to play totally different to how we have played in the last 5 months and play as we did in the first few weeks - where we topped the table. We played really well, played with pace, hunted the opposition in packs and had a high energy, high tempo about us.

So in the end it doesn't look good for us and there are a load of SAFC fans waiting too see what happens on Friday before buying tickets for Tuesday. If it goes horribly wrong on Friday then the crowd on Wearside will not be the expected 46k - 48k.

I don't like being so negative about our chances but you don't have to be the 1970 Brazilians to beat us; all you need to be is patient, well organised and be prepared to put some effort in - and that seems to be enough ie its all QPR, Hull or Blackburn did.

Can't say I'm nervous at all about Friday, given that my expectation is zero.
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The celebrations post wins have been common. We’ve only become accustomed to winning a decent amount of games in recent years.

not really fussed about your season form. Lampard said it generally - we got to expect the best Sunderland. That’s what we’ll prepare for.

interesting about Le Bris though - any reason why he is allegedly switching to QPR? Don’t see any metric where that’s a step up apart from living in London?

is Le Fee fit yet?
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Tuesday at 11:50 AM
  • #5
You’re in the playoffs after having an amazing start to the season.

Wash your sheets and grow a spine.
 
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napolimp

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  • Tuesday at 12:00 PM
  • #6
This is some doom-mongering.
 
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torchomatic

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  • Tuesday at 12:07 PM
  • #7
Mmm....seems like mind games to me. We must not be complacent!!
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Tuesday at 12:15 PM
  • #8
Hi Rob, after a promising first post we're willing to make your move to SBT permanent in exchange for the permanent transfer of Astute to RTG. Please contact @Nick for the welcome pack etc.
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Tuesday at 12:16 PM
  • #9
Players will naturally lift heads for big stake games. Sunderland’s regulation season was over ages ago, and I think both sets of fans are getting way ahead of themselves.
 
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Wyken Sky Blue

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  • Tuesday at 12:20 PM
  • #10
Rob Roy said:
Thought I'd come on and give you the gory details about your opponents on Friday and next Tuesday, because I don't think either your support or the wider footballing world has any inkling whatsoever how poor we are - and have been for months.

We go into this game on the back of 7 defeats out of the last 10 games with 5 consecutive losses but that is by no means the worst of it. You probably aren't aware but we have defeated just 1 team by more than 1 goal since last November and have scored just 33 goals in our last 34 league games. We've had something like 3 shots on target in the last 4 games.

We did have a canny home record but that fell apart weeks ago and we have now lost at home to the likes of Hull City, Blackburn Rovers, Swansea City and last Saturday lost to QPR - the team that not one week ago Burnley put to the sword 5 v 0 at Loftus Road. We are playing slow, ponderous football and the goals we concede are invariably shit and totally avoidable - eg the forward given time and space to pick his spot, unmarked inside the box.

There can be absolutely no doubt about this, irrespective of what the bookies say, that Coventry are the overwhelming favourites to go to Wembley - and I would have great difficulty making a case for Sunderland winning over 2 legs. The thing that's amazed me is how we have swanned about in 4rth place for the last 5 months with not one team putting any pressure on us whatsoever. Mystifying. What have you all been doing? Why did no one catch us?

I came on here after you beat us 3 v 0 and had to laugh at your reaction to beating us - as though you'd just beaten the 1970 Brazilians. We were absolute rubbish, you'd beaten a rank average team and our performance was utterly laughable.

I've also read things like - "we will have to take a lead to the SOL because it will be a tough game up there" etc. - are you joking? You are aware that even if by some miracle the game ends 0 v 0 on Friday you will still remain overwhelming favourites to win at the SOL - just as everyone else has. "we aren't very good away" - yes and you wont have to be - do you think that QPR last Saturday had Pele and Carlos Alberto playing for them? And of course if you win 2 v 0 on Friday then effectively that's the tie over; as we would be left to do what we have done just once since last November (see above).

There are no depths to which SAFC has not plummeted over the last 50 years and as a result I don't know one Sunderland fan who thinks that SAFC will win. Everyone I talk to about the game expects the worse and our team will likely have no shame about embarrassing our club once again.

Our manager is rumoured to be leaving for QPR once the season is done and TBH I don't think many will shed much tears as he was found out months ago.

Would it be any different if we had played Bristol City? The short answer is no it wouldn't. You wont be aware but we have a crap record against them as well and haven't beaten them at home - never mind away - since 1994 (we have never beaten them at the Stadium Of Light).

So what will it take for SAFC to win? Well we would have to play totally different to how we have played in the last 5 months and play as we did in the first few weeks - where we topped the table. We played really well, played with pace, hunted the opposition in packs and had a high energy, high tempo about us.

So in the end it doesn't look good for us and there are a load of SAFC fans waiting too see what happens on Friday before buying tickets for Tuesday. If it goes horribly wrong on Friday then the crowd on Wearside will not be the expected 46k - 48k.

I don't like being so negative about our chances but you don't have to be the 1970 Brazilians to beat us; all you need to be is patient, well organised and be prepared to put some effort in - and that seems to be enough ie its all QPR, Hull or Blackburn did.

Can't say I'm nervous at all about Friday, given that my expectation is zero.
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torchomatic

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  • Tuesday at 12:22 PM
  • #11
Rob Roy said:
Thought I'd come on and give you the gory details about your opponents on Friday and next Tuesday, because I don't think either your support or the wider footballing world has any inkling whatsoever how poor we are - and have been for months.

We go into this game on the back of 7 defeats out of the last 10 games with 5 consecutive losses but that is by no means the worst of it. You probably aren't aware but we have defeated just 1 team by more than 1 goal since last November and have scored just 33 goals in our last 34 league games. We've had something like 3 shots on target in the last 4 games.

We did have a canny home record but that fell apart weeks ago and we have now lost at home to the likes of Hull City, Blackburn Rovers, Swansea City and last Saturday lost to QPR - the team that not one week ago Burnley put to the sword 5 v 0 at Loftus Road. We are playing slow, ponderous football and the goals we concede are invariably shit and totally avoidable - eg the forward given time and space to pick his spot, unmarked inside the box.

There can be absolutely no doubt about this, irrespective of what the bookies say, that Coventry are the overwhelming favourites to go to Wembley - and I would have great difficulty making a case for Sunderland winning over 2 legs. The thing that's amazed me is how we have swanned about in 4rth place for the last 5 months with not one team putting any pressure on us whatsoever. Mystifying. What have you all been doing? Why did no one catch us?

I came on here after you beat us 3 v 0 and had to laugh at your reaction to beating us - as though you'd just beaten the 1970 Brazilians. We were absolute rubbish, you'd beaten a rank average team and our performance was utterly laughable.

I've also read things like - "we will have to take a lead to the SOL because it will be a tough game up there" etc. - are you joking? You are aware that even if by some miracle the game ends 0 v 0 on Friday you will still remain overwhelming favourites to win at the SOL - just as everyone else has. "we aren't very good away" - yes and you wont have to be - do you think that QPR last Saturday had Pele and Carlos Alberto playing for them? And of course if you win 2 v 0 on Friday then effectively that's the tie over; as we would be left to do what we have done just once since last November (see above).

There are no depths to which SAFC has not plummeted over the last 50 years and as a result I don't know one Sunderland fan who thinks that SAFC will win. Everyone I talk to about the game expects the worse and our team will likely have no shame about embarrassing our club once again.

Our manager is rumoured to be leaving for QPR once the season is done and TBH I don't think many will shed much tears as he was found out months ago.

Would it be any different if we had played Bristol City? The short answer is no it wouldn't. You wont be aware but we have a crap record against them as well and haven't beaten them at home - never mind away - since 1994 (we have never beaten them at the Stadium Of Light).

So what will it take for SAFC to win? Well we would have to play totally different to how we have played in the last 5 months and play as we did in the first few weeks - where we topped the table. We played really well, played with pace, hunted the opposition in packs and had a high energy, high tempo about us.

So in the end it doesn't look good for us and there are a load of SAFC fans waiting too see what happens on Friday before buying tickets for Tuesday. If it goes horribly wrong on Friday then the crowd on Wearside will not be the expected 46k - 48k.

I don't like being so negative about our chances but you don't have to be the 1970 Brazilians to beat us; all you need to be is patient, well organised and be prepared to put some effort in - and that seems to be enough ie its all QPR, Hull or Blackburn did.

Can't say I'm nervous at all about Friday, given that my expectation is zero.
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robbiethemole

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  • Tuesday at 12:22 PM
  • #12
Reverse psychology going on here or maybe they really are that bad!
This guy makes doom and gloom posters on here look like extroverts.
I think their younger players have suffered from the pressure of trying to perform like at the start and have burnt out a bit ( hopefully ), they certainly won’t have the experience of some of our senior guys, maybe that will be enough to get us through.
 

The Great Eastern

Well-Known Member
  • Tuesday at 12:32 PM
  • #13
We have to remember what Sheff. Wed did to Peterborough a couple of years ago. 4-0 down from the 1st leg, the Owls came back and won the tie overall.
Any sort of win Friday would be extremely welcome but dont underestimate the fervour from the home crowd and players at the SOL for the 2nd leg.
We're not currently great away from home so watch out....
 
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WestEndAgro

Well-Known Member
  • Tuesday at 12:49 PM
  • #14
Rob Roy said:
Thought I'd come on and give you the gory details about your opponents on Friday and next Tuesday, because I don't think either your support or the wider footballing world has any inkling whatsoever how poor we are - and have been for months.

We go into this game on the back of 7 defeats out of the last 10 games with 5 consecutive losses but that is by no means the worst of it. You probably aren't aware but we have defeated just 1 team by more than 1 goal since last November and have scored just 33 goals in our last 34 league games. We've had something like 3 shots on target in the last 4 games.

We did have a canny home record but that fell apart weeks ago and we have now lost at home to the likes of Hull City, Blackburn Rovers, Swansea City and last Saturday lost to QPR - the team that not one week ago Burnley put to the sword 5 v 0 at Loftus Road. We are playing slow, ponderous football and the goals we concede are invariably shit and totally avoidable - eg the forward given time and space to pick his spot, unmarked inside the box.

There can be absolutely no doubt about this, irrespective of what the bookies say, that Coventry are the overwhelming favourites to go to Wembley - and I would have great difficulty making a case for Sunderland winning over 2 legs. The thing that's amazed me is how we have swanned about in 4rth place for the last 5 months with not one team putting any pressure on us whatsoever. Mystifying. What have you all been doing? Why did no one catch us?

I came on here after you beat us 3 v 0 and had to laugh at your reaction to beating us - as though you'd just beaten the 1970 Brazilians. We were absolute rubbish, you'd beaten a rank average team and our performance was utterly laughable.

I've also read things like - "we will have to take a lead to the SOL because it will be a tough game up there" etc. - are you joking? You are aware that even if by some miracle the game ends 0 v 0 on Friday you will still remain overwhelming favourites to win at the SOL - just as everyone else has. "we aren't very good away" - yes and you wont have to be - do you think that QPR last Saturday had Pele and Carlos Alberto playing for them? And of course if you win 2 v 0 on Friday then effectively that's the tie over; as we would be left to do what we have done just once since last November (see above).

There are no depths to which SAFC has not plummeted over the last 50 years and as a result I don't know one Sunderland fan who thinks that SAFC will win. Everyone I talk to about the game expects the worse and our team will likely have no shame about embarrassing our club once again.

Our manager is rumoured to be leaving for QPR once the season is done and TBH I don't think many will shed much tears as he was found out months ago.

Would it be any different if we had played Bristol City? The short answer is no it wouldn't. You wont be aware but we have a crap record against them as well and haven't beaten them at home - never mind away - since 1994 (we have never beaten them at the Stadium Of Light).

So what will it take for SAFC to win? Well we would have to play totally different to how we have played in the last 5 months and play as we did in the first few weeks - where we topped the table. We played really well, played with pace, hunted the opposition in packs and had a high energy, high tempo about us.

So in the end it doesn't look good for us and there are a load of SAFC fans waiting too see what happens on Friday before buying tickets for Tuesday. If it goes horribly wrong on Friday then the crowd on Wearside will not be the expected 46k - 48k.

I don't like being so negative about our chances but you don't have to be the 1970 Brazilians to beat us; all you need to be is patient, well organised and be prepared to put some effort in - and that seems to be enough ie its all QPR, Hull or Blackburn did.

Can't say I'm nervous at all about Friday, given that my expectation is zero.
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Thanks for that now fuck off
 
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Para1140

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  • Tuesday at 12:55 PM
  • #15
WestEndAgro said:
Thanks for that now fuck off
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Harsh. Hes come on here and been polite
 
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quinn1971

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  • Tuesday at 12:57 PM
  • #16
Rob Roy said:
Thought I'd come on and give you the gory details about your opponents on Friday and next Tuesday, because I don't think either your support or the wider footballing world has any inkling whatsoever how poor we are - and have been for months.

We go into this game on the back of 7 defeats out of the last 10 games with 5 consecutive losses but that is by no means the worst of it. You probably aren't aware but we have defeated just 1 team by more than 1 goal since last November and have scored just 33 goals in our last 34 league games. We've had something like 3 shots on target in the last 4 games.

We did have a canny home record but that fell apart weeks ago and we have now lost at home to the likes of Hull City, Blackburn Rovers, Swansea City and last Saturday lost to QPR - the team that not one week ago Burnley put to the sword 5 v 0 at Loftus Road. We are playing slow, ponderous football and the goals we concede are invariably shit and totally avoidable - eg the forward given time and space to pick his spot, unmarked inside the box.

There can be absolutely no doubt about this, irrespective of what the bookies say, that Coventry are the overwhelming favourites to go to Wembley - and I would have great difficulty making a case for Sunderland winning over 2 legs. The thing that's amazed me is how we have swanned about in 4rth place for the last 5 months with not one team putting any pressure on us whatsoever. Mystifying. What have you all been doing? Why did no one catch us?

I came on here after you beat us 3 v 0 and had to laugh at your reaction to beating us - as though you'd just beaten the 1970 Brazilians. We were absolute rubbish, you'd beaten a rank average team and our performance was utterly laughable.

I've also read things like - "we will have to take a lead to the SOL because it will be a tough game up there" etc. - are you joking? You are aware that even if by some miracle the game ends 0 v 0 on Friday you will still remain overwhelming favourites to win at the SOL - just as everyone else has. "we aren't very good away" - yes and you wont have to be - do you think that QPR last Saturday had Pele and Carlos Alberto playing for them? And of course if you win 2 v 0 on Friday then effectively that's the tie over; as we would be left to do what we have done just once since last November (see above).

There are no depths to which SAFC has not plummeted over the last 50 years and as a result I don't know one Sunderland fan who thinks that SAFC will win. Everyone I talk to about the game expects the worse and our team will likely have no shame about embarrassing our club once again.

Our manager is rumoured to be leaving for QPR once the season is done and TBH I don't think many will shed much tears as he was found out months ago.

Would it be any different if we had played Bristol City? The short answer is no it wouldn't. You wont be aware but we have a crap record against them as well and haven't beaten them at home - never mind away - since 1994 (we have never beaten them at the Stadium Of Light).

So what will it take for SAFC to win? Well we would have to play totally different to how we have played in the last 5 months and play as we did in the first few weeks - where we topped the table. We played really well, played with pace, hunted the opposition in packs and had a high energy, high tempo about us.

So in the end it doesn't look good for us and there are a load of SAFC fans waiting too see what happens on Friday before buying tickets for Tuesday. If it goes horribly wrong on Friday then the crowd on Wearside will not be the expected 46k - 48k.

I don't like being so negative about our chances but you don't have to be the 1970 Brazilians to beat us; all you need to be is patient, well organised and be prepared to put some effort in - and that seems to be enough ie its all QPR, Hull or Blackburn did.

Can't say I'm nervous at all about Friday, given that my expectation is zero.
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we weren’t great in that 3-0 either, our midfields improved since then , grimes sheaf and Rudoni is one of the best in the league, we won with torp and Allen. but like Lampards said I’d be surprised if that Sunderland turns up again,
 
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Gleneagles65

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  • Tuesday at 1:16 PM
  • #17
Rob Roy said:
Thought I'd come on and give you the gory details about your opponents on Friday and next Tuesday, because I don't think either your support or the wider footballing world has any inkling whatsoever how poor we are - and have been for months.

We go into this game on the back of 7 defeats out of the last 10 games with 5 consecutive losses but that is by no means the worst of it. You probably aren't aware but we have defeated just 1 team by more than 1 goal since last November and have scored just 33 goals in our last 34 league games. We've had something like 3 shots on target in the last 4 games.

We did have a canny home record but that fell apart weeks ago and we have now lost at home to the likes of Hull City, Blackburn Rovers, Swansea City and last Saturday lost to QPR - the team that not one week ago Burnley put to the sword 5 v 0 at Loftus Road. We are playing slow, ponderous football and the goals we concede are invariably shit and totally avoidable - eg the forward given time and space to pick his spot, unmarked inside the box.

There can be absolutely no doubt about this, irrespective of what the bookies say, that Coventry are the overwhelming favourites to go to Wembley - and I would have great difficulty making a case for Sunderland winning over 2 legs. The thing that's amazed me is how we have swanned about in 4rth place for the last 5 months with not one team putting any pressure on us whatsoever. Mystifying. What have you all been doing? Why did no one catch us?

I came on here after you beat us 3 v 0 and had to laugh at your reaction to beating us - as though you'd just beaten the 1970 Brazilians. We were absolute rubbish, you'd beaten a rank average team and our performance was utterly laughable.

I've also read things like - "we will have to take a lead to the SOL because it will be a tough game up there" etc. - are you joking? You are aware that even if by some miracle the game ends 0 v 0 on Friday you will still remain overwhelming favourites to win at the SOL - just as everyone else has. "we aren't very good away" - yes and you wont have to be - do you think that QPR last Saturday had Pele and Carlos Alberto playing for them? And of course if you win 2 v 0 on Friday then effectively that's the tie over; as we would be left to do what we have done just once since last November (see above).

There are no depths to which SAFC has not plummeted over the last 50 years and as a result I don't know one Sunderland fan who thinks that SAFC will win. Everyone I talk to about the game expects the worse and our team will likely have no shame about embarrassing our club once again.

Our manager is rumoured to be leaving for QPR once the season is done and TBH I don't think many will shed much tears as he was found out months ago.

Would it be any different if we had played Bristol City? The short answer is no it wouldn't. You wont be aware but we have a crap record against them as well and haven't beaten them at home - never mind away - since 1994 (we have never beaten them at the Stadium Of Light).

So what will it take for SAFC to win? Well we would have to play totally different to how we have played in the last 5 months and play as we did in the first few weeks - where we topped the table. We played really well, played with pace, hunted the opposition in packs and had a high energy, high tempo about us.

So in the end it doesn't look good for us and there are a load of SAFC fans waiting too see what happens on Friday before buying tickets for Tuesday. If it goes horribly wrong on Friday then the crowd on Wearside will not be the expected 46k - 48k.

I don't like being so negative about our chances but you don't have to be the 1970 Brazilians to beat us; all you need to be is patient, well organised and be prepared to put some effort in - and that seems to be enough ie its all QPR, Hull or Blackburn did.

Can't say I'm nervous at all about Friday, given that my expectation is zero.
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If the first leg ends in a draw you will be overwhelming favourites. You are already favourites with the bookies (just) to go through. That all said and done I think we will go to Wembley.
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Tuesday at 1:18 PM
  • #18
The Great Eastern said:
We have to remember what Sheff. Wed did to Peterborough a couple of years ago. 4-0 down from the 1st leg, the Owls came back and won the tie overall.
Any sort of win Friday would be extremely welcome but dont underestimate the fervour from the home crowd and players at the SOL for the 2nd leg.
We're not currently great away from home so watch out....
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46000 people in and silence for most of the game, fervent fans? I think not
 
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Domo

Well-Known Member
  • Tuesday at 1:26 PM
  • #19
Rob Roy said:
Thought I'd come on and give you the gory details about your opponents on Friday and next Tuesday, because I don't think either your support or the wider footballing world has any inkling whatsoever how poor we are - and have been for months.

We go into this game on the back of 7 defeats out of the last 10 games with 5 consecutive losses but that is by no means the worst of it. You probably aren't aware but we have defeated just 1 team by more than 1 goal since last November and have scored just 33 goals in our last 34 league games. We've had something like 3 shots on target in the last 4 games.

We did have a canny home record but that fell apart weeks ago and we have now lost at home to the likes of Hull City, Blackburn Rovers, Swansea City and last Saturday lost to QPR - the team that not one week ago Burnley put to the sword 5 v 0 at Loftus Road. We are playing slow, ponderous football and the goals we concede are invariably shit and totally avoidable - eg the forward given time and space to pick his spot, unmarked inside the box.

There can be absolutely no doubt about this, irrespective of what the bookies say, that Coventry are the overwhelming favourites to go to Wembley - and I would have great difficulty making a case for Sunderland winning over 2 legs. The thing that's amazed me is how we have swanned about in 4rth place for the last 5 months with not one team putting any pressure on us whatsoever. Mystifying. What have you all been doing? Why did no one catch us?

I came on here after you beat us 3 v 0 and had to laugh at your reaction to beating us - as though you'd just beaten the 1970 Brazilians. We were absolute rubbish, you'd beaten a rank average team and our performance was utterly laughable.

I've also read things like - "we will have to take a lead to the SOL because it will be a tough game up there" etc. - are you joking? You are aware that even if by some miracle the game ends 0 v 0 on Friday you will still remain overwhelming favourites to win at the SOL - just as everyone else has. "we aren't very good away" - yes and you wont have to be - do you think that QPR last Saturday had Pele and Carlos Alberto playing for them? And of course if you win 2 v 0 on Friday then effectively that's the tie over; as we would be left to do what we have done just once since last November (see above).

There are no depths to which SAFC has not plummeted over the last 50 years and as a result I don't know one Sunderland fan who thinks that SAFC will win. Everyone I talk to about the game expects the worse and our team will likely have no shame about embarrassing our club once again.

Our manager is rumoured to be leaving for QPR once the season is done and TBH I don't think many will shed much tears as he was found out months ago.

Would it be any different if we had played Bristol City? The short answer is no it wouldn't. You wont be aware but we have a crap record against them as well and haven't beaten them at home - never mind away - since 1994 (we have never beaten them at the Stadium Of Light).

So what will it take for SAFC to win? Well we would have to play totally different to how we have played in the last 5 months and play as we did in the first few weeks - where we topped the table. We played really well, played with pace, hunted the opposition in packs and had a high energy, high tempo about us.

So in the end it doesn't look good for us and there are a load of SAFC fans waiting too see what happens on Friday before buying tickets for Tuesday. If it goes horribly wrong on Friday then the crowd on Wearside will not be the expected 46k - 48k.

I don't like being so negative about our chances but you don't have to be the 1970 Brazilians to beat us; all you need to be is patient, well organised and be prepared to put some effort in - and that seems to be enough ie its all QPR, Hull or Blackburn did.

Can't say I'm nervous at all about Friday, given that my expectation is zero.
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penny for your thoughts on this supposed rivalry between cov and sunderland?
 
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Specs WT-R75

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  • Tuesday at 1:54 PM
  • #20
Rob Roy said:
I've also read things like - "we will have to take a lead to the SOL because it will be a tough game up there" etc. - are you joking? You are aware that even if by some miracle the game ends 0 v 0 on Friday you will still remain overwhelming favourites to win at the SOL - just as everyone else has. "we aren't very good away"
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You realise we failed to beat Derby, Hull, Plymouth and Luton as 4 of our last 5 away games, losing 3 of them. Granted our home form has been mint, but I really do think it would be advisable to carry a lead into the away leg...

Knock-out football is a different beast. You don't have to try and win the first leg... invariably makes for a dull first leg, but you never know and that's why we do it. Good luck for next season...
 

Shannerz

Well-Known Member
  • Tuesday at 2:31 PM
  • #21
Rob Roy said:
I came on here after you beat us 3 v 0 and had to laugh at your reaction to beating us - as though you'd just beaten the 1970 Brazilians. We were absolute rubbish, you'd beaten a rank average team and our performance was utterly laughable.
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We celebrate every win like that.

It wasn't that long ago many of us genuinely wondered how long we'd have a club to support for.

Rob Roy said:
There are no depths to which SAFC has not plummeted over the last 50 years.
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Yes, there are.

The lowest you've been is promotion challengers in League One. Get a sense of perspective, and drop the whiny sense of entitlement.

Even if you do lose this tie (and it's hardly a given), you still had the fourth best team in the Championship, and the best without parachute payments. Hardly a club who've 'plummeted to the depths'. Ask Bury what that means; they might tell you something.
 
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Covkid1968#

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  • Tuesday at 2:46 PM
  • #22
It will be far tougher Friday and Tuesday than the mackems are predicting - I expect a very different Sunderland to come to the CBS on Friday. Frank will be making sure they stay focused on our own game and get the job done.
 
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Potbellypig

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  • Tuesday at 3:39 PM
  • #23
If all else fails Roy, you'll fit right in as a Cov fan.
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

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  • Tuesday at 3:50 PM
  • #24
Potbellypig said:
If all else fails Roy, you'll fit right in as a Cov fan.
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I think the jury will need to still be out on that, until he goes totally OTT when they next beat a bang average side (not us, by the way) and proclaims them European Champions! That will flag him as a potential honorary SBA member!
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

Well-Known Member
  • Tuesday at 4:58 PM
  • #25
Rob Roy said:
Thought I'd come on and give you the gory details about your opponents on Friday and next Tuesday, because I don't think either your support or the wider footballing world has any inkling whatsoever how poor we are - and have been for months.

We go into this game on the back of 7 defeats out of the last 10 games with 5 consecutive losses but that is by no means the worst of it. You probably aren't aware but we have defeated just 1 team by more than 1 goal since last November and have scored just 33 goals in our last 34 league games. We've had something like 3 shots on target in the last 4 games.

We did have a canny home record but that fell apart weeks ago and we have now lost at home to the likes of Hull City, Blackburn Rovers, Swansea City and last Saturday lost to QPR - the team that not one week ago Burnley put to the sword 5 v 0 at Loftus Road. We are playing slow, ponderous football and the goals we concede are invariably shit and totally avoidable - eg the forward given time and space to pick his spot, unmarked inside the box.

There can be absolutely no doubt about this, irrespective of what the bookies say, that Coventry are the overwhelming favourites to go to Wembley - and I would have great difficulty making a case for Sunderland winning over 2 legs. The thing that's amazed me is how we have swanned about in 4rth place for the last 5 months with not one team putting any pressure on us whatsoever. Mystifying. What have you all been doing? Why did no one catch us?

I came on here after you beat us 3 v 0 and had to laugh at your reaction to beating us - as though you'd just beaten the 1970 Brazilians. We were absolute rubbish, you'd beaten a rank average team and our performance was utterly laughable.

I've also read things like - "we will have to take a lead to the SOL because it will be a tough game up there" etc. - are you joking? You are aware that even if by some miracle the game ends 0 v 0 on Friday you will still remain overwhelming favourites to win at the SOL - just as everyone else has. "we aren't very good away" - yes and you wont have to be - do you think that QPR last Saturday had Pele and Carlos Alberto playing for them? And of course if you win 2 v 0 on Friday then effectively that's the tie over; as we would be left to do what we have done just once since last November (see above).

There are no depths to which SAFC has not plummeted over the last 50 years and as a result I don't know one Sunderland fan who thinks that SAFC will win. Everyone I talk to about the game expects the worse and our team will likely have no shame about embarrassing our club once again.

Our manager is rumoured to be leaving for QPR once the season is done and TBH I don't think many will shed much tears as he was found out months ago.

Would it be any different if we had played Bristol City? The short answer is no it wouldn't. You wont be aware but we have a crap record against them as well and haven't beaten them at home - never mind away - since 1994 (we have never beaten them at the Stadium Of Light).

So what will it take for SAFC to win? Well we would have to play totally different to how we have played in the last 5 months and play as we did in the first few weeks - where we topped the table. We played really well, played with pace, hunted the opposition in packs and had a high energy, high tempo about us.

So in the end it doesn't look good for us and there are a load of SAFC fans waiting too see what happens on Friday before buying tickets for Tuesday. If it goes horribly wrong on Friday then the crowd on Wearside will not be the expected 46k - 48k.

I don't like being so negative about our chances but you don't have to be the 1970 Brazilians to beat us; all you need to be is patient, well organised and be prepared to put some effort in - and that seems to be enough ie its all QPR, Hull or Blackburn did.

Can't say I'm nervous at all about Friday, given that my expectation is zero.
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I'm not falling for it, it will be a tough game.
 
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fatso

Well-Known Member
  • Tuesday at 5:05 PM
  • #26
Rob Roy said:
Thought I'd come on and give you the gory details about your opponents on Friday and next Tuesday, because I don't think either your support or the wider footballing world has any inkling whatsoever how poor we are - and have been for months.

We go into this game on the back of 7 defeats out of the last 10 games with 5 consecutive losses but that is by no means the worst of it. You probably aren't aware but we have defeated just 1 team by more than 1 goal since last November and have scored just 33 goals in our last 34 league games. We've had something like 3 shots on target in the last 4 games.

We did have a canny home record but that fell apart weeks ago and we have now lost at home to the likes of Hull City, Blackburn Rovers, Swansea City and last Saturday lost to QPR - the team that not one week ago Burnley put to the sword 5 v 0 at Loftus Road. We are playing slow, ponderous football and the goals we concede are invariably shit and totally avoidable - eg the forward given time and space to pick his spot, unmarked inside the box.

There can be absolutely no doubt about this, irrespective of what the bookies say, that Coventry are the overwhelming favourites to go to Wembley - and I would have great difficulty making a case for Sunderland winning over 2 legs. The thing that's amazed me is how we have swanned about in 4rth place for the last 5 months with not one team putting any pressure on us whatsoever. Mystifying. What have you all been doing? Why did no one catch us?

I came on here after you beat us 3 v 0 and had to laugh at your reaction to beating us - as though you'd just beaten the 1970 Brazilians. We were absolute rubbish, you'd beaten a rank average team and our performance was utterly laughable.

I've also read things like - "we will have to take a lead to the SOL because it will be a tough game up there" etc. - are you joking? You are aware that even if by some miracle the game ends 0 v 0 on Friday you will still remain overwhelming favourites to win at the SOL - just as everyone else has. "we aren't very good away" - yes and you wont have to be - do you think that QPR last Saturday had Pele and Carlos Alberto playing for them? And of course if you win 2 v 0 on Friday then effectively that's the tie over; as we would be left to do what we have done just once since last November (see above).

There are no depths to which SAFC has not plummeted over the last 50 years and as a result I don't know one Sunderland fan who thinks that SAFC will win. Everyone I talk to about the game expects the worse and our team will likely have no shame about embarrassing our club once again.

Our manager is rumoured to be leaving for QPR once the season is done and TBH I don't think many will shed much tears as he was found out months ago.

Would it be any different if we had played Bristol City? The short answer is no it wouldn't. You wont be aware but we have a crap record against them as well and haven't beaten them at home - never mind away - since 1994 (we have never beaten them at the Stadium Of Light).

So what will it take for SAFC to win? Well we would have to play totally different to how we have played in the last 5 months and play as we did in the first few weeks - where we topped the table. We played really well, played with pace, hunted the opposition in packs and had a high energy, high tempo about us.

So in the end it doesn't look good for us and there are a load of SAFC fans waiting too see what happens on Friday before buying tickets for Tuesday. If it goes horribly wrong on Friday then the crowd on Wearside will not be the expected 46k - 48k.

I don't like being so negative about our chances but you don't have to be the 1970 Brazilians to beat us; all you need to be is patient, well organised and be prepared to put some effort in - and that seems to be enough ie its all QPR, Hull or Blackburn did.

Can't say I'm nervous at all about Friday, given that my expectation is zero.
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Long may your run continue.

I suspect your poor recent form is mainly due to having guaranteed a playoff place by Christmas, thanks to some excellent results early In the campaign.

I expect to see a different Sunderland turn up at the CBS than the one that went belly up so easily a few weeks ago.

I think the tie will be close. Probably settled by 1 goal over the 2 legs.
 
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mmttww

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  • Tuesday at 5:52 PM
  • #27
TL;DR

happy for you / sorry it happened
 
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CovValleyBoy

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  • Tuesday at 7:59 PM
  • #28
Rob Roy said:
Thought I'd come on and give you the gory details about your opponents on Friday and next Tuesday, because I don't think either your support or the wider footballing world has any inkling whatsoever how poor we are - and have been for months.

We go into this game on the back of 7 defeats out of the last 10 games with 5 consecutive losses but that is by no means the worst of it. You probably aren't aware but we have defeated just 1 team by more than 1 goal since last November and have scored just 33 goals in our last 34 league games. We've had something like 3 shots on target in the last 4 games.

We did have a canny home record but that fell apart weeks ago and we have now lost at home to the likes of Hull City, Blackburn Rovers, Swansea City and last Saturday lost to QPR - the team that not one week ago Burnley put to the sword 5 v 0 at Loftus Road. We are playing slow, ponderous football and the goals we concede are invariably shit and totally avoidable - eg the forward given time and space to pick his spot, unmarked inside the box.

There can be absolutely no doubt about this, irrespective of what the bookies say, that Coventry are the overwhelming favourites to go to Wembley - and I would have great difficulty making a case for Sunderland winning over 2 legs. The thing that's amazed me is how we have swanned about in 4rth place for the last 5 months with not one team putting any pressure on us whatsoever. Mystifying. What have you all been doing? Why did no one catch us?

I came on here after you beat us 3 v 0 and had to laugh at your reaction to beating us - as though you'd just beaten the 1970 Brazilians. We were absolute rubbish, you'd beaten a rank average team and our performance was utterly laughable.

I've also read things like - "we will have to take a lead to the SOL because it will be a tough game up there" etc. - are you joking? You are aware that even if by some miracle the game ends 0 v 0 on Friday you will still remain overwhelming favourites to win at the SOL - just as everyone else has. "we aren't very good away" - yes and you wont have to be - do you think that QPR last Saturday had Pele and Carlos Alberto playing for them? And of course if you win 2 v 0 on Friday then effectively that's the tie over; as we would be left to do what we have done just once since last November (see above).

There are no depths to which SAFC has not plummeted over the last 50 years and as a result I don't know one Sunderland fan who thinks that SAFC will win. Everyone I talk to about the game expects the worse and our team will likely have no shame about embarrassing our club once again.

Our manager is rumoured to be leaving for QPR once the season is done and TBH I don't think many will shed much tears as he was found out months ago.

Would it be any different if we had played Bristol City? The short answer is no it wouldn't. You wont be aware but we have a crap record against them as well and haven't beaten them at home - never mind away - since 1994 (we have never beaten them at the Stadium Of Light).

So what will it take for SAFC to win? Well we would have to play totally different to how we have played in the last 5 months and play as we did in the first few weeks - where we topped the table. We played really well, played with pace, hunted the opposition in packs and had a high energy, high tempo about us.

So in the end it doesn't look good for us and there are a load of SAFC fans waiting too see what happens on Friday before buying tickets for Tuesday. If it goes horribly wrong on Friday then the crowd on Wearside will not be the expected 46k - 48k.

I don't like being so negative about our chances but you don't have to be the 1970 Brazilians to beat us; all you need to be is patient, well organised and be prepared to put some effort in - and that seems to be enough ie its all QPR, Hull or Blackburn did.

Can't say I'm nervous at all about Friday, given that my expectation is zero.
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RR has the departure of Sunderland coach Mike Dodds to Wycombe (Manager) had a negative impact on Sunderland form ...in your opinion??
He is a Covkid (Cov City supporter) i understand...
 
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CovValleyBoy

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  • Tuesday at 8:00 PM
  • #29
He left Sunderland early Feb , might have something to do with their demise
 

blunted

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  • Tuesday at 8:53 PM
  • #30
Playoffs are a whole new start for both clubs.
Could go either way. Past or recent form is no indication of the outcome.
On our day we can be brilliant, or away from home completely lacklustre.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Tuesday at 9:27 PM
  • #31
blunted said:
Playoffs are a whole new start for both clubs.
Could go either way. Past or recent form is no indication of the outcome.
On our day we can be brilliant, or away from home completely lacklustre.
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Momentum is everything in the Championship generally… particularly so in the playoffs.

I am confident we won’t slip up at home and then we position ourselves to get the required result away at their ground.
 
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Rob Roy

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  • Tuesday at 11:36 PM
  • #32
clint van damme said:
Where did it go wrong given your early season form?
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Sorry mate I didnt give you a reply to your question.

We started off playing high pressing, quick football, where we hunted down the opposition in packs. It was really difficult to play against and we got something like 36 points out of the first 39 or something ridiculous like that. We were 5 points clear at the top and motoring. We have a young side so you would think that the fitness levels were good enough to keep on playing like that.

Then something changed and we started to play this slow ponderous, defensive football and it all fell apart.

then Le Bris basically tells the whole world that as we are guaranteed 4rth we are going on the beach for a few games and everyone just switches off. We went from losing 3 or 4 games to all of a sudden we've lost 12; I mean WTF? We just cant stop losing.

Then last week he decides that we are trying again, but as expected we played Oxford away and then QPR at home; promptly lost both games, didnt score a goal and had 1 shot on target. Proving as we all know that you cant just flick a switch and start playing like Liverpool.

People are bored stiff watching us - it takes us about 5 minutes to get up the other end of the pitch and we cant break any defence down. We cant score, cant keep a clean sheet etc. and Isidor has gone from looking like one of the best strikers in the league to being completely clueless and hasn't scored in about 13 games.

given that I'm now in my 60's and saw my first professional game in the mid 60's you can imagine I've seen some shit in my time but this takes the biscuit; and remember we are supposedly the 4rth best team in the division, that nobody, for some bizarre, mystifying reason could catch (what have you all been doing? how come no one could catch us?).

Unless I'm missing something here and I'm going to end up with egg on my face I just dont see where this ends and have no reason to predict, based on the evidence of the last 5 months, anything but 2 SAFC defeats - NO MATTER WHO WE ARE PLAYING. As it stands and if pressed I'd predict:

Coventry City 2 or 3 v 0 SAFC (tie over) and
SAFC 0 v 1 Coventry

At home we are the easiest team to play against. A little bit of effort, a bit of patience and we will gift the opposition a goal, no problem. Just hang about, dig in, do a bit of defending and wait and it'll happen.

Everyone outside of Wearside is blowing smoke up Le Bris arse yet the bloke has lost the plot and he will surely get sacked at the end of the season or a dozen games into next season if we start off playing this crappy anti-football and find ourselves 12th/similar. As I said above a rumour is that he is off to QPR.

I'd love to come on here and predict some great victory for SAFC but I'd simply be lying. I cant give you any scenario where that happens.
 
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Johhny Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 1:20 AM
  • #33
Rob Roy said:
Thought I'd come on and give you the gory details about your opponents on Friday and next Tuesday, because I don't think either your support or the wider footballing world has any inkling whatsoever how poor we are - and have been for months.

We go into this game on the back of 7 defeats out of the last 10 games with 5 consecutive losses but that is by no means the worst of it. You probably aren't aware but we have defeated just 1 team by more than 1 goal since last November and have scored just 33 goals in our last 34 league games. We've had something like 3 shots on target in the last 4 games.

We did have a canny home record but that fell apart weeks ago and we have now lost at home to the likes of Hull City, Blackburn Rovers, Swansea City and last Saturday lost to QPR - the team that not one week ago Burnley put to the sword 5 v 0 at Loftus Road. We are playing slow, ponderous football and the goals we concede are invariably shit and totally avoidable - eg the forward given time and space to pick his spot, unmarked inside the box.

There can be absolutely no doubt about this, irrespective of what the bookies say, that Coventry are the overwhelming favourites to go to Wembley - and I would have great difficulty making a case for Sunderland winning over 2 legs. The thing that's amazed me is how we have swanned about in 4rth place for the last 5 months with not one team putting any pressure on us whatsoever. Mystifying. What have you all been doing? Why did no one catch us?

I came on here after you beat us 3 v 0 and had to laugh at your reaction to beating us - as though you'd just beaten the 1970 Brazilians. We were absolute rubbish, you'd beaten a rank average team and our performance was utterly laughable.

I've also read things like - "we will have to take a lead to the SOL because it will be a tough game up there" etc. - are you joking? You are aware that even if by some miracle the game ends 0 v 0 on Friday you will still remain overwhelming favourites to win at the SOL - just as everyone else has. "we aren't very good away" - yes and you wont have to be - do you think that QPR last Saturday had Pele and Carlos Alberto playing for them? And of course if you win 2 v 0 on Friday then effectively that's the tie over; as we would be left to do what we have done just once since last November (see above).

There are no depths to which SAFC has not plummeted over the last 50 years and as a result I don't know one Sunderland fan who thinks that SAFC will win. Everyone I talk to about the game expects the worse and our team will likely have no shame about embarrassing our club once again.

Our manager is rumoured to be leaving for QPR once the season is done and TBH I don't think many will shed much tears as he was found out months ago.

Would it be any different if we had played Bristol City? The short answer is no it wouldn't. You wont be aware but we have a crap record against them as well and haven't beaten them at home - never mind away - since 1994 (we have never beaten them at the Stadium Of Light).

So what will it take for SAFC to win? Well we would have to play totally different to how we have played in the last 5 months and play as we did in the first few weeks - where we topped the table. We played really well, played with pace, hunted the opposition in packs and had a high energy, high tempo about us.

So in the end it doesn't look good for us and there are a load of SAFC fans waiting too see what happens on Friday before buying tickets for Tuesday. If it goes horribly wrong on Friday then the crowd on Wearside will not be the expected 46k - 48k.

I don't like being so negative about our chances but you don't have to be the 1970 Brazilians to beat us; all you need to be is patient, well organised and be prepared to put some effort in - and that seems to be enough ie its all QPR, Hull or Blackburn did.

Can't say I'm nervous at all about Friday, given that my expectation is zero.
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Thanks for the insight. We really wish you well and hope you stay up next season.
 

Johhny Blue

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  • Wednesday at 1:22 AM
  • #34
Para1140 said:
Harsh. Hes come on here and been polite
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Sunderland fan in pieces
 
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  • Wednesday at 7:11 AM
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WestEndAgro said:
Thanks for that now fuck off
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Naarb.
 
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