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Captain Dart

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #1
Effectively warns off JFH and anyone else. I think most former footballers know the craic.
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sp.../coventry-city-stinking-division-out-12312905
 
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Nick

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #2
He doesn't seem to know league 1. Getting wound up because we don't buy players and use loans and frees.

Who were all of the Liverpool loanees?

Wonder what he would think if the silly starting line ups?

Plenty of other stuff like academy and ricoh he could mention rather then buying players. As we did buy players.
 
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Sky Blue Kid

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #3
Nick said:
He doesn't seem to know league 1. Getting wound up because we don't buy players and use loans and frees.

Who were all of the Liverpool loanees?

Wonder what he would think if the silly starting line ups?

Plenty of other stuff like academy and ricoh he could mention rather then buying players. As we did buy players.
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Another one of your... "It reads that way to me" excuses....
“I don’t think they can afford him because they won’t invest in players. They never invested in Tony Mowbray . Tony took over and him and Veno did well, turned results round with loads of loanees from Liverpool and all over the place but they had to go back.

It reads to me like loanees from Liverpool and loads of other Clubs.
 

torchomatic

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #4
Captain Dart said:
Effectively warns off JFH and anyone else. I think most former footballers know the craic.
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sp.../coventry-city-stinking-division-out-12312905
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What would he know about L1? Ex-player moans about club, others lap it up.
 
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Chipfat

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #5
He is not talking about L1 he is talking about our club!!! and i would take his knowledge over yours on how the club is being ran everyday of the week with all due respect.
 
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stupot07

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #6
Whilst I am as frustrated as everyone else
- our budget will not be anywhere near bottom 4
- 99% of transfers in league one are free or loans
- we signed 2 players in the summer (Jones and Turnbull) for cash (yes undisclosed like 90%+ of all transfers)



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torchomatic

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #7
Chipfat said:
He is not talking about L1 he is talking about our club!!! and i would take his knowledge over yours on how the club is being ran everyday of the week with all due respect.
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Fine.
 
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skybluestevie

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #8
Nick, i am sure he knows more than enough about League 1. What did he say that was so wrong? If the club buys a player, that means less money to pay player wages. Since the money pot is minuscule to start with, there is nothing wrong with saying there is no money available to buy players! The club is in a rapid decline. SISU have failed in everything they have tried to achieve apart from reducing the clubs outgoings.

They failed with their plan to gain promotion to the Premiership so they switched to trying to get the Ricoh on the cheap. That failed spectacularly and we have had a constant merry go round at the SISU boardroom. Their plan of going to Sixfields achieved lower rent but reduced the number of paying fans and caused a large number to join the NOPM campaign.

Tony Mowbray was the best manager the club could hope to have, yet SISU did not give him sufficient backing. We stand no chance of getting a known manager while SISU own the club - who would want to manage a club that is due to be homeless in a year and a half, in the process of selling their training ground, has openly stated they are not going to fund the team, and have such a disastrous record?

Sumo did not have to say anything - JFH would have found it incredibly easy to discover these details for himself when considering the position of manager, as would any other potential candidate for the job. This is why the job is still vacant so long after the departure of TM. Nobody capable of doing a half decent job would be interested in coming any where near the club while SISU own it!
 
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Chipfat

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #9
And that said Torch its works the other way also, TF or any other Sisu conection will know more than me about the inner dealing of the club, its about who you believe.
 

covmark

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #10
Chipfat said:
He is not talking about L1 he is talking about our club!!! and i would take his knowledge over yours on how the club is being ran everyday of the week with all due respect.
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Oh behave. Mick Quinn knows fuck all beyond the premier league and Newcastle United. Most of the talksport presenters are the same.

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skybluetony176

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #11
I'm wondering if there's anyone's opinion on our perilous predicament some posters on here wouldn't dismiss.

They can't all be wrong surely?
 

Nick

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #12
Chipfat said:
He is not talking about L1 he is talking about our club!!! and i would take his knowledge over yours on how the club is being ran everyday of the week with all due respect.
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Surely if you rant about not buying players you would have a look at the league or see if any any players have been bought?

I also know we bought.players
 

Sky Blue Kid

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #13
torchomatic said:
What would he know about L1? Ex-player moans about club, others lap it up.
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Really?.... Wigan L4 Oldham L4 Stockport L4 between them from 1978-1985.. Nah! he knows fuck all about lower league does he!
 
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Sky Blue Kid

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #14
covmark said:
Oh behave. Mick Quinn knows fuck all beyond the premier league and Newcastle United. Most of the talksport presenters are the same.

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Nomark at it again!!!...... check my post #13
 
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Chipfat

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #15
Nick said:
Surely if you rant about not buying players you would have a look at the league or see if any any players have been bought?

I also know we bought.players
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He is saying with the owners and current status of the club nothing will change until they leave, if Jose, Fergie and you rocked up nothing changes apart from the names they place in front of you as the new messiahs. But if you want to pick and misdirect then please by all means, keep the light off and let others see the true picture.
 

Nick

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #16
Chipfat said:
He is saying with the owners and current status of the club nothing will change if Jose, Fergie and you rocked up. But if you want to pick and misdirect then please by all means, keep the light off and let others see the true picture.
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It would change if we had a good lower league manager.

It isn't taking the light off is it? Why would people rant about incorrect things?
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #17
I refuse to take notice of anyone who:
a) refers to someone called Venus as Veno.
b) doesn't know how to feed a fucking horse properly.
 
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Nick

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #18
skybluetony176 said:
I'm wondering if there's anyone's opinion on our perilous predicament some posters on here wouldn't dismiss.

They can't all be wrong surely?
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It depends if they say things factually wrong doesn't it?
 

Sky Blue Kid

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #19
Nick said:
It would change if we had a good lower league manager.

It isn't taking the light off is it? Why would people rant about incorrect things?
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Tell that to Nomark, and Torchy then!
 

italiahorse

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #20
He says it as a lot of us see it.
Usual few will effectively be in denial.
 

covmark

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #21
Sky Blue Kid said:
Really?.... Wigan L4 Oldham L4 Stockport L4 between them from 1978-1985.. Nah! he knows fuck all about lower league does he!
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1978 to 1985, yep that's relevant to what he knows now isn't ffs. You really are beyond help.

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Chipfat

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #22
Nick said:
It would change if we had a good lower league manager.

It isn't taking the light off is it? Why would people rant about incorrect things?
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I completely disagree why hasnt it change with the other 8 managers, they all get sacked, walk or give up,, Why is that Nick???? are they all shit and cant do a job or are they all tied no matter what is said by our owners.

But you think getting a manager with L1 or lower will help,, Nick let me tell you we have had more than half a dozen managers of that level turn us down!!!!! again why?
 

skybluetony176

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #23
Nick said:
It depends if they say things factually wrong doesn't it?
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Fuck me Nick ex players have been lining up to criticise our owners and you either ignore them, dismiss them or accuse the CT of doing anything to put the boot in. If I was TF I'd fucking love you. You are to SBT what Mr Strange is to the SCG. No one is allowed to be critical of the club or owners regardless of how dire things get.
 
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Grendel

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #24
Who cares what that c**t says
 

hill83

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #25
Have a day off Nick. Yes, he wasn't 100% factually accurate but the gist of it was there. Fuck sake.
 
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Chipfat

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #26
covmark said:
1978 to 1985, yep that's relevant to what he knows now isn't ffs. You really are beyond help.

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It doesn't matter of level you compare, he is on about our club, his experience as a player is a non topic. Does he know the club? does he still talk to people within the club ? does he put himself around football people everyday? i would say yes to all, he is also doing his job, creating conversation and to have knowledge of what he is talking about THE CLUB....
 

Nick

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #27
skybluestevie said:
Nick, i am sure he knows more than enough about League 1. What did he say that was so wrong? If the club buys a player, that means less money to pay player wages. Since the money pot is minuscule to start with, there is nothing wrong with saying there is no money available to buy players! The club is in a rapid decline. SISU have failed in everything they have tried to achieve apart from reducing the clubs outgoings.

They failed with their plan to gain promotion to the Premiership so they switched to trying to get the Ricoh on the cheap. That failed spectacularly and we have had a constant merry go round at the SISU boardroom. Their plan of going to Sixfields achieved lower rent but reduced the number of paying fans and caused a large number to join the NOPM campaign.

Tony Mowbray was the best manager the club could hope to have, yet SISU did not give him sufficient backing. We stand no chance of getting a known manager while SISU own the club - who would want to manage a club that is due to be homeless in a year and a half, in the process of selling their training ground, has openly stated they are not going to fund the team, and have such a disastrous record?

Sumo did not have to say anything - JFH would have found it incredibly easy to discover these details for himself when considering the position of manager, as would any other potential candidate for the job. This is why the job is still vacant so long after the departure of TM. Nobody capable of doing a half decent job would be interested in coming any where near the club while SISU own it!
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Why was Mowbray the best manager the club could hope to have? We have seen the mess he made of recruitment.

If he knew that much he wouldn't be ranting about buying players, loan players etc. He would know that apart from a couple of teams that not many actually buy players, they rely on free and loan players.

He would know the top scorer in the league was a free transfer and that it's about finding bargains. The second top scorer was a free from forest green Rovers.

Every league team would love to go out and spend loads of money on buying players.

How often do we hear nobody would want the job? A manager would be onto a win win, for example they could sign about 6 strikers and 1 defender, 2 left wingers and decide they don't want to play wingers. There is no blame at the manager, if they do well they are a hero. If they do rubbish then it's not their fault.

It's the fact people keep going on about wage budget.and money, we don't have a bottom 3 budget. Mowbray openly admitted he screwed up recruitment.

The lower league is all about working with tight budgets, it's about finding gems like Chris stokes. It's about having a balance of strength, youth and experience and having a system that suits the plays you have.
 
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covmark

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #28
skybluetony176 said:
Fuck me Nick ex players have been lining up to criticise our owners and you either ignore them, dismiss them or accuse the CT of doing anything to put the boot in. If I was TF I'd fucking love you. You are to SBT what Mr Strange is to the SCG. No one is allowed to be critical of the club or owners regardless of how dire things get.
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There's no issue with ex players etc criticising the owners if they know what they're talking about. Mick Quinn is a presenter of the sky sports generation. Premier league is be all and end all.

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Nick

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #29
Chipfat said:
It doesn't matter of level you compare, he is on about our club, his experience as a player is a non topic. Does he know the club? does he still talk to people within the club ? does he put himself around football people everyday? i would say yes to all, he is also doing his job, creating conversation and to have knowledge of what he is talking about THE CLUB....
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So you would think he would know we bought 2 players? Wonder if he was shown players how many he would know?

Surely he would know it's quite rare league one teams pay a fee for players, our team is in league one. It's not the sky deadline day watching Chelsea or man city.
 
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Grendel

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #30
Chipfat said:
It doesn't matter of level you compare, he is on about our club, his experience as a player is a non topic. Does he know the club? does he still talk to people within the club ? does he put himself around football people everyday? i would say yes to all, he is also doing his job, creating conversation and to have knowledge of what he is talking about THE CLUB....
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I'd be amazed if he talked to anyone within the club for years - why would he?
 

Sky Blue Kid

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #31
covmark said:
1978 to 1985, yep that's relevant to what he knows now isn't ffs. You really are beyond help.

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L4... Or L2 as it's now known has never changed in style of play since I was a boy, so Yes! Totally relevant
 
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Grendel

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #32
Sky Blue Kid said:
L4... Or L2 as it's now known has never changed in style of play since I was a boy, so Yes! Totally relevant
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So how many players did Stockport sign for a fee during his time there then?
 
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Chipfat

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #33
Nick said:
So you would think he would know we bought 2 players? Wonder if he was shown players how many he would know?

Surely he would know it's quite rare league one teams pay a fee for players, our team is in league one. It's not the sky deadline day watching Chelsea or man city.
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Again still does not matter, he can stand from the outside and say the club is in a state, it stinks and the owners dont care... FFS the manager validated over the weekend the same, but somehow you and certain others keep singing the same tune. It didnt have to be Quinny who said it, most fans see what he is saying and kind of agree with the sentiment.
 
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torchomatic

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #34
Sky Blue Kid said:
Really?.... Wigan L4 Oldham L4 Stockport L4 between them from 1978-1985.. Nah! he knows fuck all about lower league does he!
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Ah so he played in the lower leagues 31 years ago? My mistake, he's an expert.
 
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Sky Blue Kid

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #35
Grendel said:
So how many players did Stockport sign for a fee during his time there then?
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I wouldn't know Grenduffy, I thought I'd let you give us some estimations on that!... No facts mind!
 
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