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Don't know what happened with Browne but Stamenic took us for a ride . And yes with certain rumours up to yesterday you have to wonder whether we were considering selling Sheaf or another one of our star assets
Don't know what happened with Browne but Stamenic took us for a ride . And yes with certain rumours up to yesterday you have to wonder whether we were considering selling Sheaf or another one of our star assetsIt is strange to not get a midfielder in when we targeted Browne and stamenic
I wonder if that was to enable sheaf to be sold
I think it’s more likely Palmer was sold because we just wanted shot of him.Problem is he doesn’t appear to be livid.
MR said they don’t want players in due the sake of having bodies, but sometimes that’s what squad depth is about - having a body that you can throw in to try to change the course if a game. Palmer for all his inconsistency got us a goal last week and now we don’t even have that. Big deal if he was on the last year of his contract. We let COH walk out as a free agent didn’t we? We must be desperately short of cash if we needed to sell Palmer who mustn’t have cost much.
If they don’t want bodies, then what are Allen. Eccles and Torp who cannot string 2 forward passes together? We have 500 strikers to sub in and out for the attacking third but nothing for midfield and defence. This will not hold until Jan I’m afraid. But at least MR will have his readymade excuses on why we dropped points.
Everyone else was busy signing players and we couldn’t even make a stopgap loan deal. That’s very disappointing.
Absolutely nail on the head, would loved to of seen us add to the squad but why chuck money away on just filling a gap, didn’t we get torp in January, that squads still capable of grabbing a play off spotDear god I expected some nonsense to have been written by some but crikey !
I see the combined meltdown has started
Eccles - not good enough , yet for two seasons he consistently has been
Allen - Missed last season and we missed his energy
Torp - Came with a big reputation, granted hasn't delivered consistently but there is definitely a player in there
Rudoni - Still settling in but there is a star in the making I'm sure of it
Lati - Don't want to see him regularly in midfield but can cover at times
Andrews / Dausch - Both have shown ability and both clearly well thought of
Yes we needed a CM and we are not quite there without signing one but 90% of clubs don't have a perfect squad with cover for every eventuality.
Personally I think we will hover around the top 8 -10 till January and strengthen again.
Enjoy the ride #pusb
We’re not going to play 4-4-2. Nobody in the modern game does.I think 4-4-2 would suit us down to the ground tbh. Sheaf and Rudoni/Torp as the 2 CMs, Sakamoto as RM, either EMC or Haji as LM, and Simms and Haji/Asante up top.
Considering we have such strong attacking options in our wingers (depends if you count Haji as able to play LM or not) compared to our midfielders, I think 4-4-2 is the way to go imo.
He was an expensive luxury to have on the booksI think it’s more likely Palmer was sold because we just wanted shot of him.
We aren't perfect but how many squads across any of the divisions are ?Absolutely nail on the head, would loved to of seen us add to the squad but why chuck money away on just filling a gap, didn’t we get torp in January, that squads still capable of grabbing a play off spot
He was an expensive luxury to have on the books
Emery at Villa did for a lot of the time last season.We’re not going to play 4-4-2. Nobody in the modern game does.
you negate MVE to a purely defensive Role. The central midfield gets overrun by 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1.
the wide players are seen as more deeper - so again you’re negating the attacking prowess of Wright and whoever is in the right.
further to that as there’s nobody behind the strikers there’s a massive gap in attacking midfield that is usually mopped up by a DM. The strikers would be totally isolated
I would've liked to get another body in but not just anyone , we've moved way past them daysSaid all along he was a luxury signing. Got shot down many times, but I was right.
Forget our shit past. Since then we’ve been told of a 5 year plan. Completely sobering to commit (lose) another season to Allen, Torp and Eccles.
Danny Drinkwater won a premier league medal , won England caps and made a fortune . And he was dreadfulBugs me this notion of whether a player is 'top 6 material' in order for them to be of value. Top 6 teams don't have a squad full of top 6 players. They do have a system that works; team spirit; a goalscorer; and some luck.
If we switch to playing with a flat 3 in midfield it’sHe was an expensive luxury to have on the books
Yeah it’s a funny old game. Everyone is moaning about the midfield but who knows what will happen. Could end up with all 3 keepers injured!I remember going to Huddersfield a couple of seasons ago. We had about 3 fit midfielders at the club and had to start Howley. Everyone was flapping. We won 4-0.
I get the lack of depth and injuries will be an issue, but we have options and there is more to come from Eccles, Torp and Rudoni for sure.
Agreed and this a process, the team is capable of getting playoffs and with some additions in Jan, we should be capable of pushing on.I think too many people convinced themselves we'd be having a crack at the autos, which was never realistic.
I stand corrected. It’s a more fluid 4-4-2 at Villa. I’m sure he plays two players that drift in to almost have a 4-2-2-2Emery at Villa did for a lot of the time last season.
They will squander that opportunity too saying Jan window doesn’t offer many deals. Even if they find a player like they did with Torp, the whole “gelling” excuse will be brought out when the new player doesn’t hit the ground running.I can't agree with that, is it frustrating? Yes, but after seeing what we've built in the last couple of years, I wouldn't say it's incompetence. We've signed good players, and it seems the right ones weren't available in our price range to go for this window. We need to trust in the recruitment team and go again in January.
And we still have Andrews, Dausch and Lati .If we switch to playing with a flat 3 in midfield it’s
Rudoni
Sheaf
Torp
Eccles
Allen
Which is just one player short of where it needs to be. Palmer doesn’t help us there.
There's a great chance for someone to step up then.Fair enough, and I don’t feel like I’m in hysterics over this window, but are Lati, Eccles, Andrews, Dausch top 6 material? They’re just championship players rather than anything special and I think that’s the main concern, where’s the standout quality in midfield that’s going to propel us into the prem? Sheaf is good and Rudoni probably will be great in time but we’re really light on playmakers in midfield.
I’m more annoyed the club did tweet it’s not mail busy has concluded tweet.
disrespectful tbh. Lost all respect for admin. Been up all night waiting for it
Arguably add Lati to that list.If we switch to playing with a flat 3 in midfield it’s
Rudoni
Sheaf
Torp
Eccles
Allen
Which is just one player short of where it needs to be. Palmer doesn’t help us there.
But we do push the full backs on. They are playing like wing backs even though we only have two central defenders. That's part of the problem.Some of our very best players are wide players and you think the solution is to not play them and instead push the full backs on ??
Being honest Allen is not what we need in that part of the pitch either. What concerns me is there's yet another parallel with England in having a defensive manager in charge of a group that's imbalanced in favour of attacking players.Arguably add Lati to that list.
Few general points on the panic, for all we know if we’d got a CM we might have let one of those go to free up the wages. While I would have liked to see a midfielder come in Robins might see things differently and we don’t know all the constraints he’s working with or what systems he might be trying to cater for. The fact we have more attackers than expected probably means we’re going to do something a bit different.
The frustrating thing is everyone knows he’s made of glass yet we fail in securing depth for that position again and again.fuck up is harsh. Im sure we tried and yes I have criticisms also. Such as why not exploit the loan market if budget is tight. But we didn’t lose our best player and captain Ben sheaf. It’s not the management teams fault he is made of glass. But when we have him we know we are a very good team.
Doesn’t mean we should sit here and think “well it could have been worse”It's worth remembering that under sisu we'd probably of sold one of our bigger stars and still signed no one.
But it ain't the end of the world is it.Doesn’t mean we should sit here and think “well it could have been worse”
We're in 9th already so let's hope we fly higherBut it ain't the end of the world is it.
According to many on here, a month ago, we were going to win the league with this squad, so surely it's still good enough for top 6!
Let's get behind the boys today, get the 3 points and start flying up this league.
Rudoni is key for me and getting the best out of TorpIt's fine as it is for now. But you do have to wonder how it's going to all pan out if we get a couple of injuries in midfield at the same time.
Not sure anyone has too much faith in Ankles as a pair do they. That's Allen and Eccles.
If Sheaf can stay fit for most of the season, we should be fine.
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