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Skybluedownunder

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  • May 17, 2024
  • #1,016
David O'Day said:
McNally has been utter garbage in a back 4 for Stoke
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That’s all well and good but I was only referring to how he was in his time with us


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SwanLane

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  • May 17, 2024
  • #1,017
McNally was great for us and filled a Hyam sized hole. Had a couple of iffy games himself and hasn’t looked as good in a back 4 this year (tbf could be many reasons for that).

Thomas is a proper old school monster centre half. Better on the ball than McNally and has a big match personality. There’s work to do but I’d pick him every time over McNally.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • May 17, 2024
  • #1,018
Winny the Bish said:
We got fleeced for Kitching. Imagine how much better we would’ve been with Binks/Thomas/£4.5m midfielder than Kitching/Thomas/Ayari
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Kitching started more often than Binks for a reason… Binks had a few good cameos and looks tidier on the ball, but a better defender right now? Unlikely.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • May 17, 2024
  • #1,019
MrBlueFace said:
Considering we've spent 4 million on one of League 1s best forwards, 4 million does seem a lot for a centre half from that League.
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Did we pay £4.5m upfront or is there a lot of performance incentives in there? More than likely, it’s the latter and if he meets those performance incentives, he’s probably been a good signing.

We got incentives and sell-ons for Bayliss and because he did nothing there we ended up getting a lot less than was probably quoted at the time of that transfer.

Besides, Kitching was an established starter for Barnsley in the Championship before we signed him.
 

junglej13

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  • May 17, 2024
  • #1,020
Kitching's form dipped towards the end of the season but all in all looks a far better player than Binks in my opinion. Particularly in a back 4. Will still prove to be a really good player for the club. I think.
 
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clown fish

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  • May 17, 2024
  • #1,021
Skybluedownunder said:
That’s all well and good but I was only referring to how he was in his time with us


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You’re arguing with someone who was insistent that Davy Klaasen is better than Maddison. Severe loser
 
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Jamesimus

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  • May 17, 2024
  • #1,022
SwanLane said:
McNally was great for us and filled a Hyam sized hole. Had a couple of iffy games himself and hasn’t looked as good in a back 4 this year (tbf could be many reasons for that).

Thomas is a proper old school monster centre half. Better on the ball than McNally and has a big match personality. There’s work to do but I’d pick him every time over McNally.
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Agree with most of this but how is Thomas an old school centre half? I’d say he’s your more modern centre half with the way he passes than ball etc, and if anything, is a bit too nice!

I do see the big match personality though - Thomas always appears relaxed!
 

Saddlebrains

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  • May 17, 2024
  • #1,023
Callum Doyle is class. Lets be honest we would all have him over Kitching
 
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shmmeee

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  • May 17, 2024
  • #1,024
Saddlebrains said:
Callum Doyle is class. Lets be honest we would all have him over Kitching
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Thought he looked a lot better alongside Fadz, I’d rather we got an organiser and winner in than a raw kid.
 
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SwanLane

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  • May 17, 2024
  • #1,025
Jamesimus said:
Agree with most of this but how is Thomas an old school centre half? I’d say he’s your more modern centre half with the way he passes than ball etc, and if anything, is a bit too nice!

I do see the big match personality though - Thomas always appears relaxed!
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I mean old school because he still loves getting physical, loves an aerial battle, not afraid to tackle etc. He reminds me of the centre halves who were more common in the game in the 80s and 90s.

The more ‘modern’ equivalent centre back might not be as tall, might be quicker and less likely to tackle. Their game is more about positioning and avoiding any contact that could result in cards etc.

Big generalisations and to be honest. there’s always been a place for both types. But if you imagine a spectrum, Thomas sits on the old school side( for me anyway).

As for too nice. He plays with a smile on his face but if you give him the chance, he’ll clean you out without blinking.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • May 17, 2024
  • #1,026
napolimp said:
Do you think? He was 23, Barnsley captain (who had just lost in the play-offs), and probably their most highly regarded player.
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We overpaid by a couple of million, unfortunately.
 
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SleepyGinger

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  • May 17, 2024
  • #1,027
People are letting Binks performance in the semi final cloud their judgement. Very mediocre for the rest of the season and I’d be disappointed if we spent a sizeable fee on him this summer. Kitching the better player and worth sticking with IMO.
 
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clown fish

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  • May 17, 2024
  • #1,028
SleepyGinger said:
People are letting Binks performance in the semi final cloud their judgement. Very mediocre for the rest of the season and I’d be disappointed if we spent a sizeable fee on him this summer. Kitching the better player and worth sticking with IMO.
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I don’t think we have a choice but to stick with Kitching given the outlay.

I agree regarding Binks however
 
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hinckley cov

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  • May 17, 2024
  • #1,029
Saddlebrains said:
Callum Doyle is class. Lets be honest we would all have him over Kitching
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We all would have him , but it would take an amount of money we either don’t have or wouldn’t spend, we have to go with what we have and coach the silly mistakes out of them.
 
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Jamesimus

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  • May 17, 2024
  • #1,030
SwanLane said:
I mean old school because he still loves getting physical, loves an aerial battle, not afraid to tackle etc. He reminds me of the centre halves who were more common in the game in the 80s and 90s.

The more ‘modern’ equivalent centre back might not be as tall, might be quicker and less likely to tackle. Their game is more about positioning and avoiding any contact that could result in cards etc.

Big generalisations and to be honest. there’s always been a place for both types. But if you imagine a spectrum, Thomas sits on the old school side( for me anyway).

As for too nice. He plays with a smile on his face but if you give him the chance, he’ll clean you out without blinking.
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You put your point across well, I can defo see some of that now. He is long and likes a tackle!

Yeah I like seeing him smiling in games, it’s good! Id rather that than faux-aggression.

He did get stuck in with the afters involving Summerville in that Leeds draw this season.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • May 17, 2024
  • #1,031
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Kitching started more often than Binks for a reason… Binks had a few good cameos and looks tidier on the ball, but a better defender right now? Unlikely.
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Is Binks really better than Kitching on the ball? I think Kitching is a far better player all round despite a few mistakes towards the end of the season. I think he will be more consistent next season and may prove to be a very good signing.

Wasn't convinced about Binks until the Wembley appearance and he seemed to gain some confidence after that but I still feel Kitching is much better.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • May 17, 2024
  • #1,032
Saddlebrains said:
Callum Doyle is class. Lets be honest we would all have him over Kitching
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Yes but surely it's unrealistic to expect we could sign him? I would have thought Man City would want to loan him out to aPL team next year.
 
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Deity

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  • May 17, 2024
  • #1,033
Deleted member 9744 said:
Yes but surely it's unrealistic to expect we could sign him? I would have thought Man City would want to loan him out to aPL team next year.
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Probably Leicester unless they don’t want him to do 2 seasons at the same club ….
 

Senior Vick from Alicante

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  • May 17, 2024
  • #1,034
I think the biggest signing we will have this time is the new 1st team coach, we have the diamonds in the rough. Dennis Lawrence has evidently left a large hole at the back end of the season, hopefully we get an ambitious driven guy with the empathy he showed the players.
 

Saddlebrains

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  • May 17, 2024
  • #1,035
Deleted member 9744 said:
Yes but surely it's unrealistic to expect we could sign him? I would have thought Man City would want to loan him out to aPL team next year.
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I know Callum himself loved it here and if we were a loan option again we would be his choice 100%

But ita up to Citeh im afraid
 
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SwanLane

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  • May 17, 2024
  • #1,036
When Binks came on for Kitching at Wembley, it was like having another player on the pitch. He looked so assured.

But there have been other times when he’s been caught out of position and not reacted quickly enough to danger, sometimes contributing to conceding goals. He also looks a bit one paced. Kitching is a unit but can build up a bit of speed if he needs to. Not seen that from Binks.

Personally, I think Binks has a slightly better touch. It just looks more effortless and those long sweeping passes can be dreamy. Kitching is very good on his day at passing on the deck and he’s able to change pace and disguise some pretty good balls into attacking areas.

Just my random thoughts and observations about the 2. Happy to be disagreed with. Basically it’s hard to pick between them. On valuation. we did pay a lot for Kitching and one factor is that he’s left footed, like Binks. But as I’ve mentioned before, that pretty much means that they can only play as LCB (in a back 4). I’d love Binks to come back but if Bologna want silly money, it’s not worth it for us or him if he and Kitching are essentially slogging it out for one position.
 
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SBT

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  • May 17, 2024
  • #1,037
SwanLane said:
When Binks came on for Kitching at Wembley, it was like having another player on the pitch.
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shmmeee

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  • May 17, 2024
  • #1,038
Binks long passing is easily the best of the three.
 
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SwanLane

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  • May 17, 2024
  • #1,039
SBT said:
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Nearly as bad as Ian Rush saying Italy was like another country
 
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Chris1987

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  • May 17, 2024
  • #1,040
With a season under their belts I think that Kitching & Thomas will be very effective next time round especially if we sign a nasty bastard DM to sit Infront of them.
 
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napolimp

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  • May 17, 2024
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@Winny the Bish , have you heard of this guy? - Levi Smans - Player profile 23/24
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • May 17, 2024
  • #1,042
Any truth in the rumour we have accepted a bid from Fulham for Sheaf?
 
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wingy

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  • May 17, 2024
  • #1,043
napolimp said:
@Winny the Bish , have you heard of this guy? - Levi Smans - Player profile 23/24
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Same profile /agent as Gustavo?
 

CovLad94

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  • May 17, 2024
  • #1,044
napolimp said:
@Winny the Bish , have you heard of this guy? - Levi Smans - Player profile 23/24
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Bit of a random player, we interested? Just looked him up looks like of interest to Heerenveen
 

Winny the Bish

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  • May 17, 2024
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napolimp said:
@Winny the Bish , have you heard of this guy? - Levi Smans - Player profile 23/24
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Not at all. Haven't spent any time looking at the Eerste Divisie after the Dylan Vente saga of last summer.

He's got a very complete statistical profile. Shooting, chance creation and defensive work numbers all high.
 
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Winny the Bish

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  • May 17, 2024
  • #1,046
Like the look of this lad as cheap competition for Sakamoto on the RW. Quick, tricky and his name is Lasso. What's not to love.

 
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napolimp

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  • May 17, 2024
  • #1,047
CovLad94 said:
Bit of a random player, we interested? Just looked him up looks like of interest to Heerenveen
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Not as far as I'm aware.
 
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napolimp

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  • May 17, 2024
  • #1,048
Winny the Bish said:
Not at all. Haven't spent any time looking at the Eerste Divisie after the Dylan Vente saga of last summer.

He's got a very complete statistical profile. Shooting, chance creation and defensive work numbers all high.
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Thought he looked an interesting option at the 10 position, although I hear we may be moving away from that set-up.
 

junglej13

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  • May 17, 2024
  • #1,049
Winny the Bish said:
Like the look of this lad as cheap competition for Sakamoto on the RW. Quick, tricky and his name is Lasso. What's not to love.

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That his surname is Coulibaly. Still haunted by the Bournemouth players we got loaned to us in the Callum Wilson deal.
 
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Hobo

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  • May 17, 2024
  • #1,050
Ccfcisparks said:
Any truth in the rumour we have accepted a bid from Fulham for Sheaf?
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Well if we are going to lose him, I would rather his deal is sorted early rather than the last minute like Hamer (when it was too late to sort out a replacement)?

If a Premier League Club comes in for him I can't see how we can hold onto him?
 
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