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Gint11

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  • Aug 22, 2024
  • #8,716
fatso said:
We play more games at a much higher intensity in the Championship than most other leagues.

Last season MR said Sakamoto and Eccles were desperately in need of resting, even before the cup run.

And how did our final quarter of the season go after the cup run exhausted us?

We plummeted out of play off contention due to exhaustion.
That on its own is evidence enough of the need to rest and rotate players when opportunity arrises.

Just out of interest, how many players have we used in the first 3 games???
Rotation is the key!!!!
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Rotation used to be a luxurious last resort. Now it’s essential for high performance. The games become data driven
 
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procdoc

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  • Aug 22, 2024
  • #8,717
It’s crazy how people want us to be successful then moan about bringing quality players in to help us achieve it
 
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biggymania

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  • Aug 22, 2024
  • #8,718
As far as fitness goes and intensity, I think Vik is just a very special athlete. It's pretty crazy he plays the full game every game - often when carrying a knock as well. He's done that both at Cov and also at Sporting.

I think this depth in attack is going to help players like Wright and Simms play with a higher intensity knowing they can/will be replaced if they're really flagging. This is a good thing for us.
 
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Gint11

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  • Aug 22, 2024
  • #8,719
Macca1987 said:
The Chelsea of the Championship
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I used to want us to sign 10-12 players every window thinking that was the recipe for success when he rarely works. 3-5 signings max to ‘add’ to what you have is what works, most of the time.
 

Gint11

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  • Aug 22, 2024
  • #8,720
biggymania said:
As far as fitness goes and intensity, I think Vik is just a very special athlete. It's pretty crazy he plays the full game every game - often when carrying a knock as well. He's done that both at Cov and also at Sporting.

I think this depth in attack is going to help players like Wright and Simms play with a higher intensity knowing they can/will be replaced if they're really flagging. This is a good thing for us.
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Not sure I agree Biggy that he was a special athlete. He did sometimes go missing in games, including the playoff final. I know he assisted Gus but I don’t recall him being involved once. Engine wise I wouldn’t say he’s special, just fit and not injury prone I’d say.
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 22, 2024
  • #8,721
Clarkey_CCFC said:
How often does Vic get subbed after an hour for Sporting, infact what about all the other quality strikers in their divisions, do they go off after an hour every week?

Of course I understand rotation, but I also understand that when fit your best players should always be playing
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We had periods last season playing Godden and MvE and Dasilva in the front three (luckily not all at once), there was serious talk of bringing Jack Burroughs back as an emergency. I’d much rather this situation.
 
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biggymania

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  • Aug 22, 2024
  • #8,722
Gint11 said:
Not sure I agree Biggy that he was a special athlete. He did sometimes go missing in games, including the playoff final. I know he assisted Gus but I don’t recall him being involved once. Engine wise I wouldn’t say he’s special, just fit and not injury prone I’d say.
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That's just one game - I think generally speaking - the guy worked extremely hard most games, all game. He played when injured, he still plays when injured now - and he wants to play the entire game. I think that's pretty special.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Aug 22, 2024
  • #8,723
Clarkey_CCFC said:
And this year we have EMC, Bassett and Rodriguez, aswell as Tavares and Da Silva. Just don't get the signing of Asante. Doubt we'll make profit in him either.
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I'd rather have Asante that Tavares or Da Silva as options
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Aug 22, 2024
  • #8,724
Clarkey_CCFC said:
You're forgetting the 3 other forward players we signed and Sakamoto returning from injury.

Fair enough Asante if we didn't sign EMC or Bassett, but we did.
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Asante is a striker EMC isn't
 

Skyblue_CP

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  • Aug 22, 2024
  • #8,725
Clarkey_CCFC said:
Bassett is a striker, so is Wright.
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I think you’re right, we should go into a 46 game season with 11 top players and then the rest can be kids. We only need 11 players to be at the level.
 
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PVA

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  • Aug 22, 2024
  • #8,726
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Currently listening to Neil Warnock’s audiobook on Spotify and it’s interesting as well as being revealing!
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Me too! I'm just on the last chapter.

It's very interesting, but it's also basically several hours of this:

 
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Balli001

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  • Aug 22, 2024
  • #8,727
Clarkey_CCFC said:
Simms is 23 not 43
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Do you deliberately not listen to Robins and a performance director saying how all the players need a rest or are overplaying? Forgive me if i trust their knowledge over yours.
 
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SwanLane

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  • Aug 22, 2024
  • #8,728
The time to judge the window will be when it’s closed. Let’s see what the balance looks like then. I’d rather have depth than not and then it’s the manager’s job to keep them all happy.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Aug 22, 2024
  • #8,729
I can see us switching to 442
 
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eedyut

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  • Aug 22, 2024
  • #8,730
Clarkey_CCFC said:
Or we can have one of the best strikers n the league, but only let him play 50% of available game time to accommodate our 2 other inferior forwards.
Once again, how often do top teams rest their best players?! How often does Vic get subbed off for Sporting? Did Mitrovic get subbed after 60 mins in the season he scored 40 for Fulham? Did he fuck.
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I'm pretty certain no-one is implying Simms would be taken off on the hour every week as a policy...it's called having options, for once. For reference, Haaland mostly played 90 mins last year, but not every single game...he was subbed at half time in one, if I remember right, and not because of injury...I'm sure you know this and are just being purposefully stubborn for the sake of it. It reads dumb otherwise.
 
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Trueskyblue20

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  • Aug 22, 2024
  • #8,731
Clarkey_CCFC said:
So is Bassett just here for when Asante needs a rest after helping Simms while he rests?
We're talking about elite athletes, you think they can't play for longer than an hour?
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It’s the first time we’ve ever had real options to make a difference and not just about expecting to select exactly the same 11 every week.

For instance, Simms has been relatively quiet the first two games (lack of service yes but more his all round game of pressing from the front and giving us a high tempo press). We therefore have another option in BTA who gives us something else and has so far made us look a better team up top when he’s on the pitch as he’s putting opposition defenders under pressure.

There will be times when Simms is playing better than BTA and vice Versa. There will also be times to rest players and cup games and when we call for a completely different type of team and striker (Bassette). These are the options we now have at our disposal which is fantastic.

It serves to push players to play their best. No one player can now expect just to be handed a start because of their name and transfer fee.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Aug 22, 2024
  • #8,732
All I know is add the CM to this side and we will be class
 
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Marty

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  • Aug 22, 2024
  • #8,733
We don't need every signing to come in as a view to making mega bucks on, we'll probably never get our money back on BTA, but if he helps us achieve promotion, then it's money well spent.
 
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Trueskyblue20

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  • Aug 22, 2024
  • #8,734
Saddlebrains said:
All I know is add the CM to this side and we will be class
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To be really needy I genuinely do think we need a RB too as priority. If MVE gets injured or needs a rest we are in trouble.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 22, 2024
  • #8,735
Trueskyblue20 said:
To be really needy I genuinely do think we need a RB too as priority. If MVE gets injured or needs a rest we are in trouble.
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Saka to RB, Rapha or BTA to RW, Eccles to RB, Torp into CM. There’s options.
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Aug 22, 2024
  • #8,736
Winny the Bish said:
So basically he’s a youth international
that took a Ligue 2 club to the French version of the Youth Cup final, was one of the best players in the tournament alongside now Bayern striker Mathys Tel, went out on loan and looked impressive.

Came back from loan, figured out some decent size clubs were in for him and stopped playing to force a move. And it seems like we offered the best fee.

Could be another wonderkid who doesn’t live up to his potential or could be our next £20m sale in two years time when he’ll still be only 21.
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We will see, but our Scouts have done a pretty good job so far.
 

skybluecam

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  • Aug 22, 2024
  • #8,737
Trueskyblue20 said:
It’s the first time we’ve ever had real options to make a difference and not just about expecting to select exactly the same 11 every week.

For instance, Simms has been relatively quiet the first two games (lack of service yes but more his all round game of pressing from the front and giving us a high tempo press). We therefore have another option in BTA who gives us something else and has so far made us look a better team up top when he’s on the pitch as he’s putting opposition defenders under pressure.

There will be times when Simms is playing better than BTA and vice Versa. There will also be times to rest players and cup games and when we call for a completely different type of team and striker (Bassette). These are the options we now have at our disposal which is fantastic.

It serves to push players to play their best. No one player can now expect just to be handed a start because of their name and transfer fee.
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Simms scored the winner vs Bristol?
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Aug 22, 2024
  • #8,738
Sky Blue Pete said:
Supporters forum last night
Doug - we’re really happy with what we’ve done in the window and I’ve stopped gossip and rumours at source
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Now Who could it be.

Any thoughts Saddlebrains.
 
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The watchmaker

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  • Aug 22, 2024
  • #8,739
Clarkey_CCFC said:
Do we need those many options though? How do imagine Robins keeping everyone happy?
Also, why does depth only count upfront? We're fucking wank at the back but everyone seems happy we're spunking millions on a back up to a back up forward.
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Generally agree with you TBF - I think Robins will be under pressure this season to sub some of our best players off to give other players minutes. Arguing (e.g) Wright might need a rest overlooks the fact that some of his most important goals for us have been scored in stoppage time.

Do have to wait and see what the squad looks like at the end of the window and plan for the future though. Sooner or later we are going to lose one/two of the big players up front. This most recent kid is 19 - if he gets 5-10 games for us this season (maybe some in the cup) that's still massive for him.
 
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Balli001

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  • Aug 22, 2024
  • #8,740
Clarkey_CCFC said:
Just find it strange we need 2 back up strikers, that's all. Everyone going mental at me because a have a different opinion. Bunch of lunatics.
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Not going mental just pointing out you know next to nothing about physical conditions of each player, during a game etc.
 

eedyut

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  • Aug 22, 2024
  • #8,741
Clarkey_CCFC said:
Do we need those many options though? How do imagine Robins keeping everyone happy?
Also, why does depth only count upfront? We're fucking wank at the back but everyone seems happy we're spunking millions on a back up to a back up forward.
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Keep it calm...signings don't have to be made in a specific order...like "Shit, there's a striker we like and he's available, but we haven't signed an extra centre half or midfielder so we have to wait." Signing the right players isn't fucking easy! Again, this is pretty obvious stuff and is rehashed every transfer window. We're also not "wank" at the back, that's emotional shite. We could probably do with an experienced head that could make a positive difference, but they're not 10 a penny, clearly.
 
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skybluecam

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  • Aug 22, 2024
  • #8,742
Clarkey_CCFC said:
I know that. I just think having 3 expensive signings for one position is slightly excessive and expensive considering we are desperate in other positions.
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Some of the discourse on here is insane mate. Some posters seemingly take personal offence to anyone questioning the club’s decisions.
 
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eedyut

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  • Aug 22, 2024
  • #8,743
Clarkey_CCFC said:
I know that. I just think having 3 expensive signings for one position is slightly excessive and expensive considering we are desperate in other positions.
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And you can say "I told you so" when we don't have any injuries or suspensions, or dips in form and Robins loses the dressing room because no-one can get a look in. Until then though, I think you're ok to have a little chill and see how it goes
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Aug 22, 2024
  • #8,744
Clarkey_CCFC said:
I know that. I just think having 3 expensive signings for one position is slightly excessive and expensive considering we are desperate in other positions.
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ignore em mate. most the people on here are that unathletic and sporty, they'd get out of breath playing subuteo. I agree with your points.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 22, 2024
  • #8,745
It’s about not being in a position where if a certain player isn’t available or needs rotating out, you’re looking at Sean Maguire or Tavares. Being able to do this across the pitch will allow us to keep everyone in good nick throughout the season without such a big drop off in quality.

One more in midfield and defence and we are good to go.
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Aug 22, 2024
  • #8,746
I just think it’s too early to say ‘we’ve spunked all our money on players we don’t need’ when the window hasn’t finished yet. Fair enough if we get to next Saturday and we’ve not brought in a right sided defender and/or a centre mid but the catastrophising over where we’ve spent our money feels a little pre-mature at the moment.
 

Samo

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  • Aug 22, 2024
  • #8,747
Ccfcisparks said:
ignore em mate. most the people on here are that unathletic and sporty, they'd get out of breath playing subuteo. I agree with your points.
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I genuinely think I might.
 
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eedyut

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  • Aug 22, 2024
  • #8,748
skybluecam said:
Some of the discourse on here is insane mate. Some posters seemingly take personal offence to anyone questioning the club’s decisions.
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It's not really though is it? It seems the other way round - you pair are taking it personally that we're bolstering the squad. We have no clue what's going on behind the scenes, to think they are not looking at all areas of the squad and trying their damnedest to improve in every area, after what they have proved so far in 3 windows, is actually insane.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 22, 2024
  • #8,749
Samo said:
I genuinely think I might.
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Just over a year ago I genuinely got out of breath climbing the stairs. Not anymore thankfully, though Subuteo might be a bridge too far
 
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skybluecam

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  • Aug 22, 2024
  • #8,750
eedyut said:
It's not really though is it? It seems the other way round - you pair are taking it personally that we're bolstering the squad. We have no clue what's going on behind the scenes, to think they are not looking at all areas of the squad and trying their damnedest to improve in every area, after what they have proved so far in 3 windows, is actually insane.
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“I’m not taking it personally. YOU’RE INSANE!!”

ok mate lol
 
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