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StrettoBoy

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  • Aug 21, 2024
  • #8,296
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Hopefully, we’re making progress on bringing in a CB (Worrall) or RB at least.
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The word about Worrall is that we can’t meet his wage demands and that he is in talks about joining Burnley.
 
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Winny the Bish

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  • Aug 21, 2024
  • #8,297
rexo87 said:
My favourite thing he’s done is just name 5 random Japanese players and claim they’re on our shortlist
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All in completely different positions too. As if we really need a mate for Tatsu and it doesn’t matter what position he plays.
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Aug 21, 2024
  • #8,298
Winny the Bish said:
All in completely different positions too. As if we really need a mate for Tatsu and it doesn’t matter what position he plays.
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Personally I would love us to explore the Japanese market a bit more, as you get unbelievable value for money for technical, hardworking players.

Interesting to see this summer how many Japanese players are joining the Championship.
 
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Diogenes

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  • Aug 21, 2024
  • #8,299
SkyblueTexan said:
If we don’t end up bringing anyone in before the window closes, are the playoffs still within reach? I’m not that confident from a defensive standpoint from I’ve seen so far. Also it appears several teams are getting deals over the line at the last minute.
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I think without defensive minded additions to shore things up we will just fall short again.

Which will be a travesty given the attacking options we have invested in.
 
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skybluegod

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  • Aug 21, 2024
  • #8,300
BlueSkiesForever said:
Well got to hand it to you, you’ve outdone me for words, not an easy task

I take your point but I do think that the chances of all 4 players mentioned being unable to be sold next season is ridiculously slim, so slim that I think it’s worth the risk tbh.

Also I don’t like this notion that keeps cropping up of how “we should be grateful for where we are” or “look where we were a few years ago”. It’s a business and I doubt many successful businesses stop taking opportunities to expand just because they were once smaller a few years ago. We should concentrate on where we’re going and what sort of club we are now rather than looking back at what we used to be.
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I said it's a slim chance which is why I said it's all good saying spend the money now, but don't expect other signings next summer for the money you have already spent. You can't keep borrowing against the future.

It's not about being greatful, it's about not appreciating that we ended up in an awful financial situation once before. Let's not go back there on a gamble. You also need to take the rest of the business with it, as another poster mentioned, there has also been significant investment in other areas of the club.
 
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JSL

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  • Aug 21, 2024
  • #8,301
Its a sorry state of affairs that is the financial clout of the promised land when we cant match the wage demands of a lower tier Premier League team's unwanted reserve player. We can however afford to pay the wages of an overseas international player such as Wright which highlights where the best value is
 
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lord_garrincha

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  • Aug 21, 2024
  • #8,302
Winny the Bish said:
All in completely different positions too. As if we really need a mate for Tatsu and it doesn’t matter what position he plays.
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In retrospect, I think not bringing in a 14-year-old Mbappe in the summer of 2012 was the reason Kev Malaga & Will Edjenguele did not thrive in L1.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Aug 21, 2024
  • #8,303
bazza16 said:
Heard Collins is going to Plymouth on loan
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Could have legs. They've just been rejected by Brentford for an approach on Matthew Cox on loan.
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Aug 21, 2024
  • #8,304
Just seen Burnley spending 12 million on Bashir Humphrey’s. Might free up Joe Worrall for us.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 21, 2024
  • #8,305
Parachute payments should be explicitly reserved for paying the difference between FFP in the Championship and existing contracts that were made in the PL. Not buying the league the next season.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Aug 21, 2024
  • #8,306
Sky Blue Goblin said:
Just seen Burnley spending 12 million on Bashir Humphrey’s. Might free up Joe Worrall for us.
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They've already bought Esteve for a big sum this summer as well. Can't really see Worrall going to them now.

Still would be surprised if we signed him mind you.
 

David O'Day

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  • Aug 21, 2024
  • #8,307
Worrell if it happens looks likely to happen later as Forest want to sell and we can't pay the 40k a week is Forest deal is worth. Forest would rather sell to a team that can pay him most of that than us who they'd need to loan him to or sell and pickup a lot more of his wages.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Aug 21, 2024
  • #8,308
shmmeee said:
Parachute payments should be explicitly reserved for paying the difference between FFP in the Championship and existing contracts that were made in the PL. Not buying the league the next season.
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They should get rid of parachute fees and just insist any PL contract has a relegation clause in it
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Aug 21, 2024
  • #8,309
Liquid Gold said:
They should get rid of parachute fees and just insist any PL contract has a relegation clause in it
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PFA would probably have something to say about that.
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Aug 21, 2024
  • #8,310
shmmeee said:
Parachute payments should be explicitly reserved for paying the difference between FFP in the Championship and existing contracts that were made in the PL. Not buying the league the next season.
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I've always thought they shouldn't get a payment as such but the existing wage bill should be covered for the first season . Any additions and additional wages become the burden of the club.
 
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Balli001

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  • Aug 21, 2024
  • #8,311
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
They've already bought Esteve for a big sum this summer as well. Can't really see Worrall going to them now.

Still would be surprised if we signed him mind you.
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Sheffield United will be back in soon. Selling Ahmedhodzic by the sounds of it
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 21, 2024
  • #8,312
Balli001 said:
Sheffield United will be back in soon. Selling Ahmedhodzic by the sounds of it
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Takeover happened yet,or just an accounting exercise?
 
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Fergusons_Beard

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  • Aug 21, 2024
  • #8,313
[mention]Tea & Busquets [/mention] Heard nothing about any player from Bordeaux going on frees yet to any team-you seen anything?


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SleepyGinger

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  • Aug 21, 2024
  • #8,314
Fergusons_Beard said:
[mention]Tea & Busquets [/mention] Heard nothing about any player from Bordeaux going on frees yet to any team-you seen anything?


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Vipotnik went to Swansea, scored at the weekend
 
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SkyB

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  • Aug 21, 2024
  • #8,315
We're playing the long game on Worrall. Forest want to get the best deal, ideally a sale but next best thing is a loan for all his wages.

Come deadline day when they don't have any other offers for him our offer of paying some part of his wages and, I'd guess, a small promotion bonus will be better than having him sat on £50k a week not getting in a matchday squad.
 

junglej13

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  • Aug 21, 2024
  • #8,316
Burnley looking to finalise deal for Worrall...
 
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rexo87

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  • Aug 21, 2024
  • #8,317
Had a look at that bloke who was supposed to replace Hyam a couple years ago but we couldn’t get the work permit. Marco Rente - looks like he’s doing well for Groningen now. 27 so plenty of experience and right footed CB.

Going to be very difficult to get a Worrall type in our price range so it may have to be someone abroad if we are looking for some experience back there
 

Balli001

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  • Aug 21, 2024
  • #8,318
junglej13 said:
Burnley looking to finalise deal for Worrall...
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Whether it's us who knows but surely McNally gets sold now
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Aug 21, 2024
  • #8,319
junglej13 said:
Burnley looking to finalise deal for Worrall...
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Really don't understand this. They play a back four and already have Delcroix, Beyer,
McNally, Al-Dakhil, Ekdal, O'Shea, Estève and Humphries in the CB position.
 
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Balli001

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  • Aug 21, 2024
  • #8,320
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Really don't understand this. They play a back four and already have Delcroix, Beyer,
McNally, Al-Dakhil, Ekdal, O'Shea, Estève and Humphries in the CB position.
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O'shea is off
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Aug 21, 2024
  • #8,321
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Really don't understand this. They play a back four and already have Delcroix, Beyer,
McNally, Al-Dakhil, Ekdal, O'Shea, Estève and Humphries in the CB position.
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Greed and to prevent him going somewhere else I’d guess. They don’t need him at all.
 
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skybluecam

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  • Aug 21, 2024
  • #8,322
Tea & Busquets said:
Renato Veiga on loan from Chelsea would be perfect, don't know how likely that would be though.
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Played in the bundesliga and Swiss league, and came on for them at the weekend. They’ll be looking above us.
 

SkyblueTexan

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  • Aug 21, 2024
  • #8,323
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Jack Burroughs has been loaned out to Kilmarnock. Hopefully, we’re making progress on bringing in a CB (Worrall) or RB at least.

Good luck to him!
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Worrall is off to Burnley
 
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TomRad85

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  • Aug 21, 2024
  • #8,324
Liquid Gold said:
They should get rid of parachute fees and just insist any PL contract has a relegation clause in it
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They'll change the rule just as we get promoted.

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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Aug 21, 2024
  • #8,325
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Really don't understand this. They play a back four and already have Delcroix, Beyer,
McNally, Al-Dakhil, Ekdal, O'Shea, Estève and Humphries in the CB position.
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I know I just said I didn’t want him but can we just sign McNally so we can have a signing
 
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SkyblueTexan

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  • Aug 21, 2024
  • #8,326
Sky Blue Goblin said:
I know I just said I didn’t want him but can we just sign McNally so we can have a signing
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By the same token, might as well go for Ayari again I suppose.
 

skybluecam

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  • Aug 21, 2024
  • #8,327
BlueSkiesForever said:
Well got to hand it to you, you’ve outdone me for words, not an easy task

I take your point but I do think that the chances of all 4 players mentioned being unable to be sold next season is ridiculously slim, so slim that I think it’s worth the risk tbh.

Also I don’t like this notion that keeps cropping up of how “we should be grateful for where we are” or “look where we were a few years ago”. It’s a business and I doubt many successful businesses stop taking opportunities to expand just because they were once smaller a few years ago. We should concentrate on where we’re going and what sort of club we are now rather than looking back at what we used to be.
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The financials of the club in terms of incomings won’t have actually changed that much though. Even 10,000 extra ST holders is only worth ~£4m a year. That disappears quickly with the fees/wages we’re paying now. And if our financial security is reliant on having saleable players that can go wrong quickly with injuries/loss of form etc.
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 21, 2024
  • #8,328
skybluecam said:
The financials of the club in terms of incomings won’t have actually changed that much though. Even 10,000 extra ST holders is only worth ~£4m a year. That disappears quickly with the fees/wages we’re paying now. And if our financial security is reliant on having saleable players that can go wrong quickly with injuries/loss of form etc.
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What is the annual increase in TV money and when did it come in?
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Aug 21, 2024
  • #8,329
Getting very worried now. Don't think this side without another CB and CM manages top half.
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Aug 21, 2024
  • #8,330
Ccfcisparks said:
Getting very worried now. Don't think this side without another CB and CM manages top half.
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Has Matt Smith hacked your account?
 
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