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Those departures would have less impact if we had their ‘successors’ in the squad this season. Which is why all the talk of back up players is mistaken in my view, especially at right back.
Those departures would have less impact if we had their ‘successors’ in the squad this season. Which is why all the talk of back up players is mistaken in my view, especially at right back.Completely agree, our midfield is really lacking atm and I believe it’ll probably cost us promotion if it’s not improved by the end of the window.
I still think this season is our best shot at promotion, would only take around 2-3 signings to have a complete squad. I really worry what it’s going to be like next season if we don’t go up and we then inevitably lose Van Ewijk and maybe Simms and/or Haji. It wasn’t for those 3 we wouldn’t be half the team we are atm, okay we can replace them but it’s probably another season of gelling and it’s going to take a hell of a lot to replace MVE and Haji/Simms in the first place.
We've already got BTA and EMC in the squad as cover/replacements for Wright and Simms, and the recruitment team will have all season to search across Europe and beyond to identify the talent needed for next season,Completely agree, our midfield is really lacking atm and I believe it’ll probably cost us promotion if it’s not improved by the end of the window.
I still think this season is our best shot at promotion, would only take around 2-3 signings to have a complete squad. I really worry what it’s going to be like next season if we don’t go up and we then inevitably lose Van Ewijk and maybe Simms and/or Haji. It wasn’t for those 3 we wouldn’t be half the team we are atm, okay we can replace them but it’s probably another season of gelling and it’s going to take a hell of a lot to replace MVE and Haji/Simms in the first place.
Completely agree, our midfield is really lacking atm and I believe it’ll probably cost us promotion if it’s not improved by the end of the window.
I still think this season is our best shot at promotion, would only take around 2-3 signings to have a complete squad. I really worry what it’s going to be like next season if we don’t go up and we then inevitably lose Van Ewijk and maybe Simms and/or Haji. It wasn’t for those 3 we wouldn’t be half the team we are atm, okay we can replace them but it’s probably another season of gelling and it’s going to take a hell of a lot to replace MVE and Haji/Simms in the first place.
Those departures would have less impact if we had their ‘successors’ in the squad this season. Which is why all the talk of back up players is mistaken in my view, especially at right back.
Agreed, at this point in the window, I can’t see us bringing in more than 2 players. One of those players will almost definitely be a CM and next would be defence, CB, RB or LB.Completely agree, our midfield is really lacking atm and I believe it’ll probably cost us promotion if it’s not improved by the end of the window.
I still think this season is our best shot at promotion, would only take around 2-3 signings to have a complete squad. I really worry what it’s going to be like next season if we don’t go up and we then inevitably lose Van Ewijk and maybe Simms and/or Haji. It wasn’t for those 3 we wouldn’t be half the team we are atm, okay we can replace them but it’s probably another season of gelling and it’s going to take a hell of a lot to replace MVE and Haji/Simms in the first place.
If we’re limited to two players brought in I agree you should focus on the spine of the side. We do however need to decide what our best back 4 is at the end of this window and stick with it. Constantly changing the defence isn’t going to help with the clunky goals we keep giving away.Agreed, at this point in the window, I can’t see us bringing in more than 2 players. One of those players will almost definitely be a CM and next would be defence, CB, RB or LB.
In terms of numbers, on paper we’re ‘well stocked’ as we have 4 CBs, 2 LBs and only one RB on the books. In an ideal world we’d get players in each position, but if we have to prioritise, CB is top. CB is the most important and some experience is needed there in particular. We’ve already conceded 3 preventable goals and it was an Achilles heel last season because we couldn’t keep a clean sheet. Lati is already the 2nd choice RB in the depth chart and he’s good enough defensively for it to work.
As for CM, a lot has been made that we’ve got the numbers, perhaps. The quality isn’t there, our midfield looks unconvincing without Sheaf as it did last season hence we tried to sign Browne, Stamenic and others. In particular, Allen is not at the standard required - he’s a useful rotational player at best imo.
It’s worth noting that Robins spent the tail end of last season stating how he needed more quality in midfield, to not sign anyone new in the transfer window would be strange if that was his choice.
I think it's a case of succession planning, with the player brought in starting as back-up.Those departures would have less impact if we had their ‘successors’ in the squad this season. Which is why all the talk of back up players is mistaken in my view, especially at right back.
I would prefer ‘rotation’ or ‘competition’, but not arguing with the intention.I think it's a case of succession planning, with the player brought in starting as back-up.
What is acceptable level in this context? We failed to make the playoffs last season so I’m struggling to see how we improve on last season’s defensive record without adding any new players. We kept 2 league clean sheets in 2024 so was a soft underbelly and will continue to be so on the goals we’ve conceded so far.
I think we’ve got a problem in that the only outfield players we have over 27 are Allen and Bidwell at 29 and 31 and neither really are looking like first team players that command the respect of the squad.
There’s a real experienced pro shaped hole in the squad IMO, I think if we got an experience DM in who could organise those around him a bit we might get away without the CB.
I never really understand this idea that we need an ‘experienced’ older head etc. Surely it just comes down to character/personality and ability.I think we’ve got a problem in that the only outfield players we have over 27 are Allen and Bidwell at 29 and 31 and neither really are looking like first team players that command the respect of the squad.
There’s a real experienced pro shaped hole in the squad IMO, I think if we got an experience DM in who could organise those around him a bit we might get away without the CB.
Those departures would have less impact if we had their ‘successors’ in the squad this season. Which is why all the talk of back up players is mistaken in my view, especially at right back.
would suggest lati will then move to rb coverObikwu going to Northampton should be announced today. Good move for all parties on loan
We still want Worrall
would rather a CM than a CB if its one or the other - hopefully still bothObikwu going to Northampton should be announced today. Good move for all parties on loan
We still want Worrall
Would it be CM perm & CB loan.would rather a CM than a CB if its one or the other - hopefully still both
I never really understand this idea that we need an ‘experienced’ older head etc. Surely it just comes down to character/personality and ability.
@Saddlebrains any midfielder crumbs of news? Thats the key. Would like Worrall if can work.Obikwu going to Northampton should be announced today. Good move for all parties on loan
We still want Worrall
Glad to hear that re Worrall. Hopefully as the window draws to a close Forest will be happy to take say 20% wage contribution rather than let him sit in the reserves.Obikwu going to Northampton should be announced today. Good move for all parties on loan
We still want Worrall
I can sense we are on the verge of another George Smith exclusive...Obikwu going to Northampton should be announced today. Good move for all parties on loan
We still want Worrall
Glad to hear that re Worrall. Hopefully as the window draws to a close Forest will be happy to take say 20% wage contribution rather than let him sit in the reserves.
What is acceptable level in this context? We failed to make the playoffs last season so I’m struggling to see how we improve on last season’s defensive record without adding any new players. We kept 2 league clean sheets in 2024 so was a soft underbelly and will continue to be so on the goals we’ve conceded so far.
As for midfield, we’ve been after a few CMs which demonstrates it’s still a priority. Sheaf will miss 10-15 games a season and hasn’t managed 35+ games in his career to date. Torp’s injury record with us so far shows a similar trajectory. After those two, the depth is not looking good and we’re asking a lot from Eccles defensively playing with Allen/Rudoni in the CM role.
Look at how strong our attack was in the Oxford game. You had Tats, EMC, Simms, BTA and Wright playing. That’s the kind of depth you need to be pushing automatics. You don’t have that same depth in midfield or defence.
The paranoia part was in relation to the line about selling Sheaf and Wright because we bought in EMC and tried to get Stamenic.
I think it’s crossed wires as to me a back up player is someone we would have on standby in case MVE is injured as opposed to someone closer to first team standard.So you’re saying we should have back-ups in the squad? There’d be less impact to the squad if MVE leaves next season, say, if we had a RB back-up already in the squad this season? I agree with that, I’m just not sure which side of the argument you’re on, maybe it’s just the way I’m reading it
I would imagine we will see Howley, Obikwu, Burroughs, Dausch, Tavares, Andrews and Collins out the door by the time the window closes. Some on loan others permanently. If that allows 1 to come in id take Worrall and be happy to work with the squad we have with additions of Sheaf and Rodriguez. But things can change quickly and we will just have to see on the 1st of sept on who we have in game day squads.
I’d want a recall on Obikwu, Dauch and Tavares.I would imagine we will see Howley, Obikwu, Burroughs, Dausch, Tavares, Andrews and Collins out the door by the time the window closes. Some on loan others permanently. If that allows 1 to come in id take Worrall and be happy to work with the squad we have with additions of Sheaf and Rodriguez. But things can change quickly and we will just have to see on the 1st of sept on who we have in game day squads.
Would be happy with Worral. Has played around 170 champ. games and 37 pl games over the last 2 seasonsObikwu going to Northampton should be announced today. Good move for all parties on loan
We still want Worrall
Roque is a pretty tidy player himself!
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