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Summer transfer window 2024 (6 Viewers)

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Deity

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  • Aug 14, 2024
  • #7,771
Balli001 said:
While that is part of their job they also want to get the most information they can in their time. Robins has repeatedly, especially this summer, said he wont make any comment on transfers so there really is no point asking him.
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That is the essence of journalism …. Getting people to tell you what they would prefer not to. Without that it’s a world of PR releases …..
 
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CovLis86

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  • Aug 14, 2024
  • #7,772
Or you annoy him by asking him questions he's stated numerous times he won't answer, then he no longer talks to anyone about anything. People's lack of patience and the 'I deserve to know everything immediately' attitude is very telling of the times.
 
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Deity

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  • Aug 14, 2024
  • #7,773
CovLis86 said:
Or you annoy him by asking him questions he's stated numerous times he won't answer, then he no longer talks to anyone about anything. People's lack of patience and the 'I deserve to know everything immediately' attitude is very telling of the times.
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He’s a grown up. He knows how the football business works and frankly if we ever get back to the Premier league with him it will increase exponentially and they will be much more pointed with the time of their questions too !
 
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CovLis86

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  • Aug 14, 2024
  • #7,774
Deity said:
He’s a grown up. He knows how the football business works and frankly if we ever get back to the Premier league with him it will increase exponentially and they will be much more pointed with the time of their questions too !
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Good point and he will know it's part and parcel of the role. He would still be in his right to decline any press and send someone in his place. I'd rather hear from him of course.
 
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SkyB

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  • Aug 14, 2024
  • #7,775
fernandopartridge said:
I am struggling with the diagnosis of what we need really. Jamie Allen is a box to box midfielder, we don't need another one of him. We need a player that is comfortable receiving the ball under pressure, able to turn in either direction. Skills that both Hamer and O'Hare had.
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We need a holding midfielder. From what we've seen so far we need a base to the 3 who can receive from the CBs and play either to the wingers or other CMs. I think we all want it to be Eccles but he's not started the season brilliantly, all be it only 2 games.

The makeup should be:

Eccles/New CDM

Sheaf/Allen

Rudoni/Torp

Frees Torp to play further forward knitting the striker and wingers together. Allows Sheaf to drive without us being exposed at the back.
 
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Deity

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  • Aug 14, 2024
  • #7,776
CovLis86 said:
Good point and he will know it's part and parcel of the role. He would still be in his right to decline any press and send someone in his place. I'd rather hear from him of course.
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The club would never allow the manager to alienate the CET on the basis the manager was asked about transfers during the transfer window.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Aug 14, 2024
  • #7,777
shepardo01 said:
Gaining further traction now (no pun intended!)
This guy has much more credibility than other posters previously;
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Pun definitely intended…
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 14, 2024
  • #7,778
There’s no point asking questions to which people with some common sense already know the answers. We can see the team is light on a few positions, we can also see the club hasn’t got the money to go after its targets unless someone here or a Swedish guy in Lisbon get sold.

With the latter looking increasingly and bizarrely unlikely, we’re going in with what we have.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Aug 14, 2024
  • #7,779
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
Think all we need is an all action CM and a dynamic young up and coming RB
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I agree that we need a dynamic RB but I still feel we look open in defence and for that reason, if the choice is one or the other, you’d have to go for a CB all day.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Aug 14, 2024
  • #7,780
Mucca Mad Boys said:
I agree that we need a dynamic RB but I still feel we look open in defence and for that reason, if the choice is one or the other, you’d have to go for a CB all day.
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I really don't see us signing a centre back unless it's the experienced head type like a younger Mcfadzean. They will want to invest the time and coaching to get the best out of the 4 centre backs we signed last summer.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Aug 14, 2024
  • #7,781
Brighton Sky Blue said:
There’s no point asking questions to which people with some common sense already know the answers. We can see the team is light on a few positions, we can also see the club hasn’t got the money to go after its targets unless someone here or a Swedish guy in Lisbon get sold.

With the latter looking increasingly and bizarrely unlikely, we’re going in with what we have.
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I believe, perhaps naively, that there’s still funds that was earmarked for the Stamenic transfer that never went through. There’s been snippets that we’re still negotiating for Marsden.

We were told about Dovin at the start of the window and he came in about 6-8 weeks after the matter.

If you’re going for higher quality players, these things take time to materialise!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 14, 2024
  • #7,782
Mucca Mad Boys said:
I believe, perhaps naively, that there’s still funds that was earmarked for the Stamenic transfer that never went through. There’s been snippets that we’re still negotiating for Marsden.

We were told about Dovin at the start of the window and he came in about 6-8 weeks after the matter.

If you’re going for higher quality players, these things take time to materialise!
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It’s possible, but if that’s the truth then there’s no chance the manager will say it in public hence no point in asking the question.

If there are to be more cutting things asked I’d rather it be about the tactical concerns on the pitch.
 
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coop

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  • Aug 14, 2024
  • #7,783
Perhaps they thought Stamenic was nailed on and when it went tits up they are struggling to find a replacement for the same money?
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Aug 14, 2024
  • #7,784
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
I really don't see us signing a centre back unless it's the experienced head type like a younger Mcfadzean. They will want to invest the time and coaching to get the best out of the 4 centre backs we signed last summer.
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Exactly, I reckon that’s the profile we’re going for because there’s a lot of potential in all 4 of our current CBs. In the two games so far, we’ve been a bit open and my concern is that our defence will not be good enough to finish in the Top 4.
 

Balli001

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  • Aug 14, 2024
  • #7,785
Deity said:
That is the essence of journalism …. Getting people to tell you what they would prefer not to. Without that it’s a world of PR releases …..
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But they get an allocated time with the manager. Whats the point wasting that on something you know wont be answered?
 

biggymania

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  • Aug 14, 2024
  • #7,786
Mucca Mad Boys said:
I believe, perhaps naively, that there’s still funds that was earmarked for the Stamenic transfer that never went through. There’s been snippets that we’re still negotiating for Marsden.

We were told about Dovin at the start of the window and he came in about 6-8 weeks after the matter.

If you’re going for higher quality players, these things take time to materialise!
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I really hope this is true. I definitely would be surprised at this phase of the club's growth if our transfer strategy hinged on two downstream transfers (Gyok & Hamer) happening - which we have no control over. To need those to happen to strengthen central midfield for example - would be very dissapointing indeed.

Another thought I have is that Stamenic perhaps would have been part of a strategy to then sell Sheaf and fund the rest of our deals like Dovin and BTA based off of that. Now that Stamenic deal went tits up, they've had to radically change the order of things.

Where that leaves us is a) sell a valuable player to fund more activity b) do nothing and pray for a Gyok/Hamer move.

b) in particular just doesn't add up to me. I believe we're smarter than that.
 
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JSL

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  • Aug 14, 2024
  • #7,787
I see McNair played for WBA last night. i thought he went to MLS. Seems a convoluted arrangement, much like Stamenic to Forest and then Olympiacos
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 14, 2024
  • #7,788
biggymania said:
I really hope this is true. I definitely would be surprised at this phase of the club's growth if our transfer strategy hinged on two downstream transfers (Gyok & Hamer) happening - which we have no control over. To need those to happen to strengthen central midfield for example - would be very dissapointing indeed.

Another thought I have is that Stamenic perhaps would have been part of a strategy to then sell Sheaf and fund the rest of our deals like Dovin and BTA based off of that. Now that Stamenic deal went tits up, they've had to radically change the order of things.

Where that leaves us is a) sell a valuable player to fund more activity b) do nothing and pray for a Gyok/Hamer move.

b) in particular just doesn't add up to me. I believe we're smarter than that.
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Maybe we used the funds earmarked for Stamenic to sign Dovin and BTA, maybe King really did sanction extra cash to sign Stamenic specifically and is fine to do so again if a comparable player is available.

Both plausible
 
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Calista

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  • Aug 14, 2024
  • #7,789
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It’s possible, but if that’s the truth then there’s no chance the manager will say it in public hence no point in asking the question.

If there are to be more cutting things asked I’d rather it be about the tactical concerns on the pitch.
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I agree. There are valid reasons why the club don't want to provide a running commentary on any transfer intentions or negotiations in progress. It's not an evil plot to keep fans in the dark, it's simply in the best interests of CCFC's efforts to bring in the players we want.

I get the curiosity, but social media has lit a flame under people's impatience to know everything before it happens. I'd rather have news than speculation.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 14, 2024
  • #7,790
Calista said:
I agree. There are valid reasons why the club don't want to provide a running commentary on any transfer intentions or negotiations in progress. It's not an evil plot to keep fans in the dark, it's simply in the best interests of CCFC's efforts to bring in the players we want.

I get the curiosity, but social media has lit a flame under people's impatience to know everything before it happens. I'd rather have news than speculation.
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I’m a broken record on this but I don’t care, I’d like to know what we’re playing at with our defensive corner routines, why we’re playing the ball around at a snail’s pace etc.

You’d probably get some interesting answers.
 
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Deity

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  • Aug 14, 2024
  • #7,791
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I’m a broken record on this but I don’t care, I’d like to know what we’re playing at with our defensive corner routines, why we’re playing the ball around at a snail’s pace etc.

You’d probably get some interesting answers.
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They are not mutually exclusive though.

They should just ask less inane questions / statements like “good to see Simms get off the mark”, “ positive keeping a clean sheet” “pleased ti be through ti the next round Mark”

I mean for the love of god no one benefits from that approach ….
 
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shepardo01

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  • Aug 14, 2024
  • #7,792
JSL said:
I see McNair played for WBA last night. i thought he went to MLS. Seems a convoluted arrangement, much like Stamenic to Forest and then Olympiacos
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They loaned him to WBA until their season starts.
 

Robinshio

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  • Aug 14, 2024
  • #7,793
Clarkey_CCFC said:
Day 19 asking for a proper centre half.
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why post a picture of Richard shaw then ?? the reason we got relegated from the PL was the defence
 
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Diogenes

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  • Aug 14, 2024
  • #7,794
Robinshio said:
why post a picture of Richard shaw then ?? the reason we got relegated from the PL was the defence
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Because he was the best steward on the west terrace
 
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BlueSkiesForever

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  • Aug 14, 2024
  • #7,795
@Saddlebrains anything?
 

Offhegoes

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  • Aug 14, 2024
  • #7,796
Robinshio said:
why post a picture of Richard shaw then ?? the reason we got relegated from the PL was the defence
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Spot on!
We were splashing cash on great attacking players like Keane, McCallister, Hadji, Chippo, and Hartson.
Our defence would normally include Marcus Hall, Richard Shaw and Paul Williams, and this was over 3-4 years.
Our luck ran out eventually .
 
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Viktor17

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  • Aug 14, 2024
  • #7,797
BlueSkiesForever said:
@Saddlebrains anything?
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There is literally no news - nothing!

sure it’s in hand, but getting little twitchy as again last night, just showed we are desperate for that midfielder!
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Aug 14, 2024
  • #7,798
BlueSkiesForever said:
@Saddlebrains anything?
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Zilch
 
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no_loyalty

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  • Aug 14, 2024
  • #7,799
Oscar Bobb out the equation now he has fractured his leg in training.
 
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mmttww

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  • Aug 14, 2024
  • #7,800
Offhegoes said:
We were splashing cash on great attacking players...
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tbf Breen, Konjic, Hedman etc. weren't freebies and we tried to blow cash on others (Jarni, Helveg).
 

Tea & Busquets

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  • Aug 14, 2024
  • #7,801
JSL said:
I see McNair played for WBA last night. i thought he went to MLS. Seems a convoluted arrangement, much like Stamenic to Forest and then Olympiacos
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No. He's part of San Diego FC but they're not operational till next year, so he's loaned out to WBA. Same thing with Hirving Lozano who's agreed a transfer there but is staying at his club till next summer.
 

BlueSkiesForever

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  • Aug 14, 2024
  • #7,802
Viktor17 said:
There is literally no news - nothing!

sure it’s in hand, but getting little twitchy as again last night, just showed we are desperate for that midfielder!
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Same, we really need another midfielder and perhaps backup RB if we’re to get promoted this season.
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Aug 14, 2024
  • #7,803
BlueSkiesForever said:
Same, we really need another midfielder and perhaps backup RB if we’re to get promoted this season.
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I think once the Premier League starts we might see a loan or two . Would prefer a permanent in midfield but as long as we attract the right player would take two loanees
 
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Nick

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  • Aug 15, 2024
  • #7,804
Going to be a bit worrying if we don't get a midfielder in by the end of the window.
 
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Tea & Busquets

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  • Aug 15, 2024
  • #7,805
Bedwetting two weeks out, Doug and Robins know what's at stake.
 
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