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Diogenes

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  • Aug 12, 2024
  • #7,526
Saddlebrains said:
Il be very concerned if we don't get a quality midfielder and a hard bastard defender in by 30th August
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I think we are going to be disappointed.
 
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larry_david

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  • Aug 12, 2024
  • #7,527
We don't need a hard bastard, we need players like Allen, Torp, Palmer actually stepping up and being counted rather than being happy to just feature. We need Simms to start believing in himself again to bully and drag defenders around.

Yes another 'quality' midfielder would be great, but these lot have been here a while now and Robins has kept them for a reason and they need to start stepping up. Allen had good excuses last season with missing pre season with a heart scare, but he's had a full pre season, featured in every game and he needs to now step up or step out.
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Aug 12, 2024
  • #7,528
It’s been a great window already. It’s bizarre to say we’re disappointed with additions like Dovin, Rudoni, Binks, Mason-Clark, Thomas-Asante. Bizarre
 
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Viktor17

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  • Aug 12, 2024
  • #7,529
Saddlebrains said:
Il be very concerned if we don't get a quality midfielder and a hard bastard defender in by 30th August
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King is going to have to take financial risk. We know money will be coming, but can’t not get more in.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Aug 12, 2024
  • #7,530
Cally Fedora said:
It’s been a great window already. It’s bizarre to say we’re disappointed with additions like Dovin, Rudoni, Binks, Mason-Clark, Thomas-Asante. Bizarre
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Has the actual starting 11 got stronger though?.

I'm pleased we have the depth its much needed and should definitely help us as it was our chilled heel last year

But we are still quite clearly missing a quality midfielder and solid centre half to improve the 11
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 12, 2024
  • #7,531
Saddlebrains said:
Has the actual starting 11 got stronger though?.

I'm pleased we have the depth its much needed and should definitely help us as it was our chilled heel last year

But we are still quite clearly missing a quality midfielder and solid centre half to improve the 11
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Rudoni and Dovin look like improvements. Bizarre that since the start of last season we’ve lost Hamer Kelly Fadz and not replaced any of them though. I guess Torp was supposed to be the Hamer replacement but let’s be honest he’s nowhere near.
 
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larry_david

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  • Aug 12, 2024
  • #7,532
Lati, Binks, Kitch and Thomas are our CBs. Like anything it takes time to grow and develop. We cannot be so short sighted to write them all off after one season where for the most part, all of them have been applauded and proven they have quality but of course all had moments of disappointing spells.

Torp was signing in January and now is the time for him to step up.

It's up to MR, boatang, Carr, Delaney and Dempster to get the best out of them now. We cannot just keep throwing money at someone and writing off players based on one shit performance. We cannot, it's not FM, these are real people and real players who are young and will progress. McFadz at BT age was playing part time footy for example.
 
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Matt smith

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  • Aug 12, 2024
  • #7,533
larry_david said:
We don't need a hard bastard, we need players like Allen, Torp, Palmer actually stepping up and being counted rather than being happy to just feature. We need Simms to start believing in himself again to bully and drag defenders around.

Yes another 'quality' midfielder would be great, but these lot have been here a while now and Robins has kept them for a reason and they need to start stepping up. Allen had good excuses last season with missing pre season with a heart scare, but he's had a full pre season, featured in every game and he needs to now step up or step out.
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Jamie Allen isn’t good enough to get us where we need to get to.
 
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Deity

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  • Aug 12, 2024
  • #7,534
Viktor17 said:
King is going to have to take financial risk. We know money will be coming, but can’t not get more in.
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This squad is good enough to finish in the top 6 without additions.

Time for MR and the players to deliver, let’s stop making excuses for them already ….
 

BlueSkiesForever

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  • Aug 12, 2024
  • #7,535
shmmeee said:
Rudoni and Dovin look like improvements. Bizarre that since the start of last season we’ve lost Hamer Kelly Fadz and not replaced any of them though. I guess Torp was supposed to be the Hamer replacement but let’s be honest he’s nowhere near.
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Yeah it is odd tbf, we’ve improved the depth of the squad in attacking areas - which was definitely an issue - but we’ve not improved the defensive midfield aspect of our game at all. I think it’s one of the most crucial areas on the pitch tbh, if we can’t stop the opposition effectively or move the ball up the pitch effectively then we’re fucked.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Aug 12, 2024
  • #7,536
Deity said:
This squad is good enough to finish in the top 6 without additions.

Time for MR and the players to deliver, let’s stop making excuses for them already ….
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It isn't

We still have a gaping hole in midfield

Torp so far hasn't looked the part, Sheaf and Eccles though great together, have a lot of injuries (mainly sheaf) leading to a huge drop off In quality when that happens

Our centre midfield isn't top 6 worthy (without Sheaf)
 
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larry_david

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  • Aug 12, 2024
  • #7,537
Matt smith said:
Jamie Allen isn’t good enough to get us where we need to get to.
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I agree completely
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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  • Aug 12, 2024
  • #7,538
Cally Fedora said:
It’s been a great window already. It’s bizarre to say we’re disappointed with additions like Dovin, Rudoni, Binks, Mason-Clark, Thomas-Asante. Bizarre
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I think Bizarre needs to start on Friday against Oxford
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 12, 2024
  • #7,539
€2 Million for BNC?
 

biggymania

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  • Aug 12, 2024
  • #7,540
Brighton Sky Blue said:
€2 Million for BNC?
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Sounds like a good deal. I bet wages are a lot higher than we would be willing to pay though.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 12, 2024
  • #7,541
biggymania said:
Sounds like a good deal. I bet wages are a lot higher than we would be willing to pay though.
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Perhaps, but goes to show that he wouldn’t have been anywhere near as expensive as speculated.
 
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Martw

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  • Aug 12, 2024
  • #7,542
Saddlebrains said:
It isn't

We still have a gaping hole in midfield

Torp so far hasn't looked the part, Sheaf and Eccles though great together, have a lot of injuries (mainly sheaf) leading to a huge drop off In quality when that happens

Our centre midfield isn't top 6 worthy (without Sheaf)
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There would always have been a point that we ran out of the Gyokeres and Hamer money and whilst some more might yet come in , it looks as if we are out of cash? we have clear needs maybe as many as 4 but a CM above all is desperately needed
 
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Deity

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  • Aug 12, 2024
  • #7,543
Saddlebrains said:
It isn't

We still have a gaping hole in midfield

Torp so far hasn't looked the part, Sheaf and Eccles though great together, have a lot of injuries (mainly sheaf) leading to a huge drop off In quality when that happens

Our centre midfield isn't top 6 worthy (without Sheaf)
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I would argue that our midfield of Sheaf, Rudoni and either Eccles or Torp is as good as the Ipsw midfield that got promoted and the Luton midfield that got promoted ….. yes another high quality CDM or 8 would help but every team will say they just need another X …..
 
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napolimp

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  • Aug 12, 2024
  • #7,544
Deity said:
I would argue that our midfield of Sheaf, Rudoni and either Eccles or Torp is as good as the Ipsw midfield that got promoted and the Luton midfield that got promoted ….. yes another high quality CDM or 8 would help but every team will say they just need another X …..
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No, @Saddlebrains is right. Robins is playing 3 in midfield, a combination of 6's and 8's. Allen's not good enough to be anything other than a rotational player brought on to rest others, Palmer is a 10. That leaves 4 midfielders for 3 positions, and one of them is injured. That's simply not enough depth to achieve what we're hoping for.
 
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Frank Alsop

Active Member
  • Aug 12, 2024
  • #7,545
Allegedly BNC has signed for Roma for £1.7m with a further £1.7m in add ons
 
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Macca1987

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  • Aug 12, 2024
  • #7,546
napolimp said:
No, @Saddlebrains is right. Robins is playing 3 in midfield, a combination of 6's and 8's. Allen's not good enough to be anything other than a rotational player brought on to rest others, Palmer is a 10. That leaves 4 midfielders for 3 positions, and one of them is injured. That's simply not enough depth to achieve what we're hoping for.
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Completely agree, when Sheaf is out, and Eccles carrying a knock then we are at bare bones. Allen is not the answer, an addition in defensive midfield is the answer
 
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Deity

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  • Aug 12, 2024
  • #7,547
napolimp said:
No, @Saddlebrains is right. Robins is playing 3 in midfield, a combination of 6's and 8's. Allen's not good enough to be anything other than a rotational player brought on to rest others, Palmer is a 10. That leaves 4 midfielders for 3 positions, and one of them is injured. That's simply not enough depth to achieve what we're hoping for.
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So with Allen we have 5, plus Lati can do an emergency job that’s 6 then there is Kai Andrews 7
Ryan Howley 8

I don’t disagree that IDEALLY we would strengthen further but let’s not give the team an out already ….
 
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fatso

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  • Aug 12, 2024
  • #7,548
Frank Alsop said:
Allegedly BNC has signed for Roma for £1.7m with a further £1.7m in add ons
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BNC to Genoa

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napolimp

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  • Aug 12, 2024
  • #7,549
Deity said:
So with Allen we have 5, plus Lati can do an emergency job that’s 6 then there is Kai Andrews 7
Ryan Howley 8

I don’t disagree that IDEALLY we would strengthen further but let’s not give the team an out already ….
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You mentioned Latibeaudiere could be picked, in an "emergency". Really playing Allen anywhere in midfield is an emergency. In the very realistic scenario where Sheaf and Eccles could be unavailable, we'd be looking at a situation where we're trying to win games with "emergency" selections.
 
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biggymania

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  • Aug 12, 2024
  • #7,550
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Perhaps, but goes to show that he wouldn’t have been anywhere near as expensive as speculated.
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Yep - I am surprised at the fee being so low. I assume though that the wages for a 2nd choice right-back just wouldn't add up for us, unfortunately. He also needs to be first choice at this stage in his career.

If we were selling MVE...
 
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SkyblueTexan

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  • Aug 12, 2024
  • #7,551
BlueSkiesForever said:
Yeah it is odd tbf, we’ve improved the depth of the squad in attacking areas - which was definitely an issue - but we’ve not improved the defensive midfield aspect of our game at all. I think it’s one of the most crucial areas on the pitch tbh, if we can’t stop the opposition effectively or move the ball up the pitch effectively then we’re fucked.
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Exactly. We’ve only upgraded our attacking options, but nothing on the defensive side. We’re very imbalanced as a squad especially on the defensive side at the moment. Any injuries or suspensions further exacerbates the problems.
 
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biggymania

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  • Aug 12, 2024
  • #7,552
We could definitely use some more cover in this area, but I think we're all over reacting because we just didn't show up in the first half on Saturday. The players need to take that on the chin, it's not the transfer strategy.
 
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long way home

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  • Aug 12, 2024
  • #7,553
The squad is unbalanced in my opinion we need to see movement both ways to get this right. We have to move a few on, or hope that Vik and Hamer clubs get offers they cant refuse. We still need 3 quality signings in key areas to get the depth and balance right. But Im sure the club are working hard and know what is needed, unfortunately it takes time and money.. Which i don't think we have, unless players are moved on.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Aug 12, 2024
  • #7,554
Deity said:
I would argue that our midfield of Sheaf, Rudoni and either Eccles or Torp is as good as the Ipsw midfield that got promoted and the Luton midfield that got promoted ….. yes another high quality CDM or 8 would help but every team will say they just need another X …..
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It is I agree

But when you have Torp Sheaf and Eccles all made of weetabix, we are then forced to play Jamie fucking Allen, who, despite being solid for us over the years is no longer good enough

That's our issue

If we could somehow guarantee Sheaf Eccles and Torp could play 46 games a season we wouldn't need a quality midfielder

But they won't, so we do
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Aug 12, 2024
  • #7,555
Deity said:
So with Allen we have 5, plus Lati can do an emergency job that’s 6 then there is Kai Andrews 7
Ryan Howley 8

I don’t disagree that IDEALLY we would strengthen further but let’s not give the team an out already ….
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If you're saying we are OK To rely on Andrews Allen and Howley of push comes to shove then I hope your expectations for this year are trying to stay up not be solidly in the top 6
 
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Tomh111

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  • Aug 12, 2024
  • #7,556
I don't agree around the CB, I think we have enough cover and quality there.

CM is a problem, as it was last season.

I do wish that people would stop discussing Kelly and Fadz, though. Kelly was past it the year we made Wembley but was given a sentimental contract, and Fadz was going that way.

I don't want us to rush out and get the wrong player, though, and while it's frustrating that Stamenic went elsewhere, I am happy we are shopping in a competitive pool of players.

There's also little point signing someone who we aren't certain about. We can't carry a 3 year contract for someone not good enough or who doesn't fit.

Sent from my SM-S911B using Tapatalk
 
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JSL

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  • Aug 12, 2024
  • #7,557
Its well known that some are saying we need a DM, RCB and RB to finish bettering the squad for now. The fact that we have not gone for BNC , to me says, (a) we have no money (b) we have other better targets in mind or (c) MRs priorities lie with the RCB / DM requirement. Take your pick
 
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biggymania

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  • Aug 12, 2024
  • #7,558
JSL said:
Its well known that some are saying we need a DM, RCB and RB to finish bettering the squad for now. The fact that we have not gone for BNC , to me says, (a) we have no money (b) we have other better targets in mind or (c) MRs priorities lie with the RCB / DM requirement. Take your pick
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d) we can't afford the wages and appearances expectation.
 
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JSL

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  • Aug 12, 2024
  • #7,559
biggymania said:
d) we can't afford the wages and appearances expectation.
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(d) falls under (a)
 
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Deity

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  • Aug 12, 2024
  • #7,560
Saddlebrains said:
If you're saying we are OK To rely on Andrews Allen and Howley of push comes to shove then I hope your expectations for this year are trying to stay up not be solidly in the top 6
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I’m not saying that at all.

I’m saying virtually every team in the championship has its strengths and areas of exposure. We are no different.

Whether we like it or not Robins rates Allen. He’s made him Captain during pre season !

I think Sheaf, Eccles, Torp, Rudoni, Allen, and Lati should be enough. If it’s not we can always go 4-4-2 and play with just 2 central midfielders from that 6.

Tats- Eccles- Lati - EMC

Wright - Simms

Even with a weaker central 2 it’s still a very good competitive formation at championship level

We were awful on Saturday but that doesn’t mean we should all press the panic button and write off the season unless we bring another CM in, which we might still do.
 
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