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Hobo

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  • Jul 12, 2024
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fernandopartridge said:
It's a fair point from Robins, experience isn't an innate feature of any player so buying a player purely to bring it can be short sighted. That said, that wasn't the only reason we were interested in Browne. I think his message is looking for players like one of the centre backs to step up and provide a bit more leadership.
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Yes I agree, I would add Sheaf and Eccles to that. I remember Coventry signing Terry Yorath who was a leader and an obvious Captain. At the time he was a similar age to Sheaf with a similar amount of appearances.

Age isn't the only measure of experience. Drive and maturity are also important attributes.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 12, 2024
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I don't think anyone was expecting much outside of a few more signings:

GK,
CB,
ST,
CM

and we will be grand.
 
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hamil99

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  • Jul 12, 2024
  • #5,533
Ccfcisparks said:
I don't think anyone was expecting much outside of a few more signings:

GK,
CB,
ST,
CM

and we will be grand.
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I'd be happy with GK and a DM. The rest would be a bonus! Getting the GK in is the main priority in my eyes.
 
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Deity

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  • Jul 12, 2024
  • #5,534
hamil99 said:
I'd be happy with GK and a DM. The rest would be a bonus! Getting the GK in is the main priority in my eyes.
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We have to get a replacement for Godden too
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 12, 2024
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Keeper is a less a priority than any of the other positions imo. Good to have but we definitely need another striking option.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 12, 2024
  • #5,536
Deity said:
We have to get a replacement for Godden too
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Yes agree with this totally.

CB we could go without but thats with the assumption Bobby plays majority of games with Lati coming in when desperate.
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Jul 12, 2024
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hamil99 said:
I'd be happy with GK and a DM. The rest would be a bonus! Getting the GK in is the main priority in my eyes.
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Why do we need a DM?
 

BlueSkiesForever

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  • Jul 12, 2024
  • #5,538
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
He's a dependable 7/10 player who does the simple stuff well. Yes, he may not get you off your seat, score or assist loads of goals and his set pieces would be bettered by a one-legged blind Oompah Loompah but you need someone in your squad who can play that no nonsense role.
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You’re really not selling it to me
 

oakey

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  • Jul 12, 2024
  • #5,539
Can't believe some are happy to start the season with 2 strikers, one who usually plays wide left.
One more is bare minimum.
If we were serious about promotion it would be two.
The squad is no bigger than we had in League 1 currently.
 
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Deity

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  • Jul 12, 2024
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Perennial Lurker said:
Why do we need a DM?
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We only have one in Sheaf unless you consider Lati to be a CDM which I don’t.

It’s too crucial a position to risk having no cover for a sheaf injury, suspension or late transfer
 
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Calista

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  • Jul 12, 2024
  • #5,541
oakey said:
Can't believe some are happy to start the season with 2 strikers, one who usually plays wide left.
One more is bare minimum.
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Yes, replacing Godden is an absolute must.
 
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Kingokings204

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  • Jul 12, 2024
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I think a lot of posters are overlooking the loan market. How good could a premier league loan be for the striker to replace godden? Easier to convince and not such a big outlay in fees.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 12, 2024
  • #5,543
oakey said:
Can't believe some are happy to start the season with 2 strikers, one who usually plays wide left.
One more is bare minimum.
If we were serious about promotion it would be two.
The squad is no bigger than we had in League 1 currently.
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There is absolutely no way we need 2.

In the scenario Simms gets injured then the replacement Striker can go there
if he gets injured then wright will go there.

If it got that bad which imo is extremely unlikely then we would loan someone in come january.
 
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SkyB

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  • Jul 12, 2024
  • #5,544
oakey said:
Can't believe some are happy to start the season with 2 strikers, one who usually plays wide left.
One more is bare minimum.
If we were serious about promotion it would be two.
The squad is no bigger than we had in League 1 currently.
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Maybe he sees Obikwa as the backup now?

Wouldn't put to much weight behind it but in the unseen his 'team' won the mini games shooting drill by a fair margin.

Maybe Burroughs is the RB backup, Howley the new CM and Obikwu the Godden replacement.
 
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BlueSkiesForever

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  • Jul 12, 2024
  • #5,545
AFCCOVENTRY said:
Robins – who has been extremely tight-lipped about transfer business in recent months – said: “I think we have to wait and see. We have a profile and we have to go with that because that’s a club-wide thing not just a personal preference.

“I think we probably need a bit more experience but then those players who were with us last year have got another year on their backs, so they have been there for 12 months and know what things are about. And hopefully they will benefit from that experience, and I am looking for people to step up and step into roles that have been vacated by others.

“But the dressing room is different, it’s a bit younger but there are some really good and talented players in there and you expect someone to step into any void that’s left, expect that vacuum to be filled and it will be because there are some really good characters in there. When things don’t go so well you are looking for those leaders to have that experience to rely on.”
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Right, now can I start panicking??

If it’s all true (and he’s not just trying to word things nicely for the lads in the squad) then it is pretty concerning that we’ll have no proper backup RB, no decent GK, no backup ST, no new CM or backup to Sheaf and no new LB.

We’ll basically have the same squad as last season just with Rudoni swapped in for O’Hare and some new cover on the wings, that’s a very minor improvement imo. If that’s all we get then that basically means the exact same issues of transition from defence to attack and no cover for players like Sheaf or MVE if they get injured, not to mention the fact we’ll have a lovely choice between Collins and Wilson in goal…
 
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Deleted member 162

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  • Jul 12, 2024
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BlueSkiesForever said:
Right, now can I start panicking??

If it’s all true (and he’s not just trying to word things nicely for the lads in the squad) then it is pretty concerning that we’ll have no proper backup RB, no decent GK, no backup ST, no new CM or backup to Sheaf and no new LB.

We’ll basically have the same squad as last season just with Rudoni swapped in for O’Hare and some new cover on the wings, that’s a very minor improvement imo. If that’s all we get then that basically means the exact same issues of transition from defence to attack and no cover for players like Sheaf or MVE if they get injured, not to mention the fact we’ll have a lovely choice between Collins and Wilson in goal…
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Given the transfer window doesn't close until the 30th August and it's currently the 12th of July, no you can't start panicking.
 
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Tomh111

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  • Jul 12, 2024
  • #5,547
Hobo said:
Well if you invest a lot in a recruitment department you would expect them to do the lion's share of the work.

I would imagine Robin's outlines what he wants, then comes back in at the end of the process and final interview. King will obviously have a big say on the financial side. That's how all the bigger well run club's operate.
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It's this, you don't have a manager dictating.

The most successful clubs all flow downwards from a clear direction, that a manager is part of but not totally responsible for.

You set a playing strategy, around how you want or think you win games of football. You then highlight traits and skills that the players within that system require, the recruitment team then try and find players who fit that.

I.e. if your right back doesn't need to track back because you cover him with 2 cm's, but you need him to fire diagonal balls in. You find a Trent Alexander Arnold akin.

That department then presents a list of players who fit the design to a group, that discuss commercial viability and at that point the manager is involved, because maybe you need to discuss intangibles/character etc etc



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BlueSkiesForever

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  • Jul 12, 2024
  • #5,548
SkyblueCookie said:
Given the transfer window doesn't close until the 30th August and it's currently the 12th of July, no you can't start panicking.
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Owww, I wanted to start panicking
 
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Calista

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  • Jul 12, 2024
  • #5,549
SkyB said:
Maybe Burroughs is the RB backup, Howley the new CM and Obikwu the Godden rereplacement.
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BlueSkiesForever has just choked on his Haribo mix
 
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fatso

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  • Jul 12, 2024
  • #5,550
BlueSkiesForever said:
I’m really going to try and watch Eccles intently this season, I don’t know what people see in him but there must be something in it, I personally don’t see it at all but there’s too many rave reviews for it to not be true
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He's the absolute engine of the team.
Does ALL the dirty stuff so Sheaf can look majestic pinging passes here there and everywhere.

Eccles breaks up the opposition play, wins back possession, protects the back four, makes numerous interceptions and blocks, , and gets the ball to our "flair" players so we can then attack.

We've got adequate cover for most positions, but no one can cover Eccles.
Just look at how poor we are when Eccles isn't it the midfield. Lats certainly isn't as good as Eccles in the middle of the park.

And Dasilva on the other hand just makes the coffee at half time!
 
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BlueSkiesForever

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  • Jul 12, 2024
  • #5,551
Calista said:
BlueSkiesForever has just choked on his Haribo mix
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After it looking like we’re not gonna sign any more “exotic” players I think I’ll need some whiskey in my coffee this morning
 
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  • Jul 12, 2024
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Deity said:
We only have one in Sheaf unless you consider Lati to be a CDM which I don’t.

It’s too crucial a position to risk having no cover for a sheaf injury, suspension or late transfer
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Is this just a wind up?
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Jul 12, 2024
  • #5,553
Deity said:
We only have one in Sheaf unless you consider Lati to be a CDM which I don’t.

It’s too crucial a position to risk having no cover for a sheaf injury, suspension or late transfer
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Eccles is a DM surely?
 
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rexo87

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  • Jul 12, 2024
  • #5,554
Perennial Lurker said:
Wouldn't have thought the fee was the issue, it was probably the add-ons
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BlueSkiesForever said:
Right, now can I start panicking??

If it’s all true (and he’s not just trying to word things nicely for the lads in the squad) then it is pretty concerning that we’ll have no proper backup RB, no decent GK, no backup ST, no new CM or backup to Sheaf and no new LB.

We’ll basically have the same squad as last season just with Rudoni swapped in for O’Hare and some new cover on the wings, that’s a very minor improvement imo. If that’s all we get then that basically means the exact same issues of transition from defence to attack and no cover for players like Sheaf or MVE if they get injured, not to mention the fact we’ll have a lovely choice between Collins and Wilson in goal…
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Wtf - at no point did he say we wouldn’t be making more signings
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 12, 2024
  • #5,555
BlueSkiesForever said:
Right, now can I start panicking??

If it’s all true (and he’s not just trying to word things nicely for the lads in the squad) then it is pretty concerning that we’ll have no proper backup RB, no decent GK, no backup ST, no new CM or backup to Sheaf and no new LB.

We’ll basically have the same squad as last season just with Rudoni swapped in for O’Hare and some new cover on the wings, that’s a very minor improvement imo. If that’s all we get then that basically means the exact same issues of transition from defence to attack and no cover for players like Sheaf or MVE if they get injured, not to mention the fact we’ll have a lovely choice between Collins and Wilson in goal…
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Yeah youre finally going on ignore.
 
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Trueskyblue20

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  • Jul 12, 2024
  • #5,556
Perennial Lurker said:
Eccles is a DM surely?
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Exactly, only yesterday a lot of people were saying we needed a ball carrying type of box to box midfielder and that Eccles is too similar to Sheaf so would he not be considered a DM?

Thinking about the experience argument, I would actually say a midfield of Sheaf and Eccles has a lot of experience now and even if you add Rudoni to that, he’s been playing in the Championship for a number of years now. Robins makes a great point that we have the majority of the same team, all who have a minimum of a year playing together in the Championship which will be a great foundation to build on.


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BlueSkiesForever

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  • Jul 12, 2024
  • #5,557
Ccfcisparks said:
Yeah youre finally going on ignore.
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Finally! Works for me, won’t get half as many emojis on my comments now
 
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fatso

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  • Jul 12, 2024
  • #5,558
BlueSkiesForever said:
Right, now can I start panicking??

If it’s all true (and he’s not just trying to word things nicely for the lads in the squad) then it is pretty concerning that we’ll have no proper backup RB, no decent GK, no backup ST, no new CM or backup to Sheaf and no new LB.

We’ll basically have the same squad as last season just with Rudoni swapped in for O’Hare and some new cover on the wings, that’s a very minor improvement imo. If that’s all we get then that basically means the exact same issues of transition from defence to attack and no cover for players like Sheaf or MVE if they get injured, not to mention the fact we’ll have a lovely choice between Collins and Wilson in goal…
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Relax .... there's a long way to go, and if needed we can exploit the loan market.

Compared to the last quarter of last season, we've only lost O'hare of any real note.
And we've brought in EMC and Rudoni who look to be top quality, we've got Sakamoto back to fitness and we won't be waiting half a season for Wright and Simms to find their feet.

We will start the season with a settled back 4 that actually know each other and won't need to change formation half way through the season, and we could even have an international keeper on board.

I'm confident that we will replace Godden with a striker that's actually mobile and can run faster than a granny with a zimmer frame, and for a change our bench will have some genuine quality and options on it rather than crap players and kids.

So keep calm and trust in the process !
 
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BlueSkiesForever

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  • Jul 12, 2024
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rexo87 said:
Wtf - at no point did he say we wouldn’t be making more signings
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I sort of thought it was implied from what he was saying that there wouldn’t be many more signings, meaning like 1 or 2 max I assume?
 
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rexo87

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  • Jul 12, 2024
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BlueSkiesForever said:
I sort of thought it was implied from what he was saying that there wouldn’t be many more signings, meaning like 1 or 2 max I assume?
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He was talking about current players stepping up into the leadership role that Fadz and Kelly had. He implied there wouldn’t be many experienced players coming in but nothing about players in general
 
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hamil99

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  • Jul 12, 2024
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Deity said:
We have to get a replacement for Godden too
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I'm one of the few who thinks Tavares can step up in that place, with Dausch and Obikwu stepping up in his place. So personally striker isn't a concern for me.
 
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hamil99

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  • Jul 12, 2024
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Perennial Lurker said:
Why do we need a DM?
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A proper replacement for Kelly, I feel it's what we were missing last year and one of the reasons (along with the keeper) that we shipped so many goals.
 
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hamil99 said:
I'm one of the few who thinks Tavares can step up in that place, with Dausch and Obikwu stepping up in his place. So personally striker isn't a concern for me.
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I tend to agree. I can't think any ambitious striker would want to come here and sit on the bench watching Simms and Wright. They won't get many games.

Goalkeeper and left back are the areas of concern but the problem is we have two contracted players in both positions.
 
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hamil99

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  • Jul 12, 2024
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Deleted member 9744 said:
I tend to agree. I can't think any ambitious striker would want to come here and sit on the bench watching Simms and Wright. They won't get many games.

Goalkeeper and left back are the areas of concern but the problem is we have two contracted players in both positions.
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I think that's why we haven't made a move for Burrows this window, to the surprise of the Peterborough owner, because we have players there who would be hard to shift. Goalkeeper on the other hand I think we would accept a nominal fee for Wilson, and somebody would take him up.
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Jul 12, 2024
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hamil99 said:
A proper replacement for Kelly, I feel it's what we were missing last year and one of the reasons (along with the keeper) that we shipped so many goals.
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We didn't ship so many goals though
 
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