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SleepyGinger

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #3,746
I just think if it’s true we’re after another CM it will be more in the Stamenic/Kyprianou mould than Browne
 
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Balli001

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #3,747
SleepyGinger said:
His best position is an attacking 8/10 according to PNE fans. Wouldn’t suit being one of the deeper 2 midfielders in a 4231.
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Even if that is true why did we try to sign Stamenic as well then? Clearly we are trying to sign another central midfielder, regardless of which perceived position he plays
 
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ptr

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #3,748
Still think Browne is going Sheff United. Same as Burrows and Campbell.
 
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Balli001

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #3,749
ptr said:
Still think Browne is going Sheff United. Same as Burrows and Campbell.
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They will have a long wait then
 

Alkhen

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #3,750
Which Prem club is going to want to send a highly rated prospect to us when we have Simms and Wright in front of them?. The parent club would want guaranteed playing time which is something we can't offer.

Much better to buy a young prospect and slowly filter them in.
 
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SleepyGinger

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #3,751
Balli001 said:
Even if that is true why did we try to sign Stamenic as well then? Clearly we are trying to sign another central midfielder, regardless of which perceived position he plays
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I still think we will get another CM but it won’t be Browne
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #3,752
We missed Stamenic but it showed we’re after a player in that position and are probably targeting something around the £5m mark. I think that player will still arrive but in a different guise. We’ll almost certainly add a keeper. We’re looking at RB cover. The intriguing one - where we’ve heard nothing is CF. Godden must be off. Wonder if Tavares has done enough to be considered his replacement.
 
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TomS91

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #3,753
McNair is really not what we need. He’s a cb most comfortable playing in a 3, or the hybrid way boro used to play with a back 4 but one full back basically becoming a third cb. We won’t be doing that. Can’t remember the last time he would’ve played in a traditional back 4, if ever. He’s not dominant enough for us.

Worrall would be the perfect, realistic, centre half for what we need.
 

Terry_dactyl

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #3,754
Cally Fedora said:
We missed Stamenic but it showed we’re after a player in that position and are probably targeting something around the £5m mark. I think that player will still arrive but in a different guise. We’ll almost certainly add a keeper. We’re looking at RB cover. The intriguing one - where we’ve heard nothing is CF. Godden must be off. Wonder if Tavares has done enough to be considered his replacement.
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I’ve been quite critical of Tavares but actually his last few performances were pretty good. They seemed to be mostly from the wing though, not sure id be happy if he was our only backup option.
We seem to have a few good youngsters in that position but I’m guessing they’re a way off too.
I know nothing about Campbell but I reckon that’s the sort of player that appeals ie championship experience but at an age where they can improve/have some resale value.
 

BlueSkiesForever

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #3,755
Why is it Browne or no one for most people on here?

If we very nearly signed Stamenic (who ended up at a prem team) then we can attract someone better than Browne. Yes we want some experience but pushing 30 isn’t what we need, 3 year deal on Browne and he’ll basically be at the end of his career with little resale value. We’ve got to think more long term than that imo.
 
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Balli001

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #3,756
BlueSkiesForever said:
Why is it Browne or no one for most people on here?

If we very nearly signed Stamenic (who ended up at a prem team) then we can attract someone better than Browne. Yes we want some experience but pushing 30 isn’t what we need, 3 year deal on Browne and he’ll basically be at the end of his career with little resale value. We’ve got to think more long term than that imo.
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How do you propose getting experience if you won't sign anyone not even 30 yet?
 

BlueSkiesForever

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #3,757
Balli001 said:
How do you propose getting experience if you won't sign anyone not even 30 yet?
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Buy a 26-27 year old player? Would you say Sheaf’s inexperienced? Why is 30 years old the cut-off? There’s a reason why Sheaf seems to be in higher demand/value than Browne, it’s because he’s got potential and longevity (and he’s better anyway of course).
 

Balli001

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #3,758
BlueSkiesForever said:
Buy a 26-27 year old player? Would you say Sheaf’s inexperienced?
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So you wouldnt sign Harry Kane, Ronaldo, Messi etc because they are, in your opinion, ancient?
 

BlueSkiesForever

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #3,759
Balli001 said:
So you wouldnt sign Harry Kane, Ronaldo, Messi etc because they are, in your opinion, ancient?
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I wouldn’t want the diva-ness of Ronaldo firstly, but it’s dead easy to pick 3 very talented world class players that are older and use that as an argument. We don’t have that sort of cash and it seems to me like the business model that Doug is going for is the “buy cheap, train up, sell on” sort of model. I think there’s just better, younger players out there than Browne, it’s a downgrade on Sheaf and he’d have very little resale value after 3-4 years.
 
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Balli001

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #3,760
BlueSkiesForever said:
I wouldn’t want the diva-ness of Ronaldo firstly, but it’s dead easy to pick 3 very talented world class players that are older and use that as an argument. We don’t have that sort of cash and it seems to me like the business model that Doug is going for is the “buy cheap, train up, sell on” sort of model. I think there’s just better, younger players out there than Browne, it’s a downgrade on Sheaf and he’d have very little resale value after 3-4 years.
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This is to replace Kelly though, a 34 year old, who only last year led us out in a play off final. Your argument is basically anyone who reaches 28 is past it and couldnt possibly do a job anymore. Clearly you cant see how poor your argument is so ill just be thankful you are nowhere near the recruitment team.
 

shepardo01

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #3,761
 

junglej13

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #3,762
Not really sure what Nixon is saying about Forest and their plans. Almost reads like they are tying to pull the wool over the eyes of the Premier League...
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #3,763
shepardo01 said:
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Doesn't suit them because they're in it up to their necks over taking the piss with their spending and need some fees to come in.
 
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steve101

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #3,764
Worrell on a season loan would be a great move.
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #3,765
Stick to loan proposal, don’t push any harder.
 
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Deity

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #3,766
Nixon is saying what we can all see with our own eyes. Premier clubs who have cheated by breaking the FFP rules are now cheating again to try and avoid penalties. These include the latest trick which is selling youth team players at hugely inflated prices to each other. This season we have seen their parent companies also buy hotels off the clubs and gift huge sponsorship deals to name their training grounds.

The Premier League are losing control.
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #3,767
Deity said:
Nixon is saying what we can all see with our own eyes.
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Almost Nixon in a nutshell tbh.

The cold non-exclusive.
 

BlueSkiesForever

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #3,768
Balli001 said:
This is to replace Kelly though, a 34 year old, who only last year led us out in a play off final. Your argument is basically anyone who reaches 28 is past it and couldnt possibly do a job anymore. Clearly you cant see how poor your argument is so I’ll just be thankful you are nowhere near the recruitment team.
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Is it to just replace Kelly though? Maybe that’s what you mean, and if so that’s fine, I agree that Browne is an upgrade on Kelly, but I think others on here want Browne as a Sheaf replacement if we sold him.

In response to you saying “you think anyone over 28 is past it”, not everyone is past it, it’s just that the current level that Browne is at isn’t amazing and he won’t improve any further due to his age.

My overall view is that I don’t particularly want to sell Sheaf but if we did then Browne isn’t the right replacement, if Browne is a back up to Sheaf then that’s probably alright.
 

BlueSkiesForever

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #3,769
Tommo1993 said:
Stick to loan proposal, don’t push any harder.
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Why not buy him? At the right price he seems like exactly what we need. We shouldn’t overspend of course but he’s got experience and isn’t that old yet, I think he’d be a great asset.
 

Balli001

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #3,770
BlueSkiesForever said:
Is it to just replace Kelly though? Maybe that’s what you mean, and if so that’s fine, I agree that Browne is an upgrade on Kelly, but I think others on here want Browne as a Sheaf replacement if we sold him.

In response to you saying “you think anyone over 28 is past it”, not everyone is past it, it’s just that the current level that Browne is at isn’t amazing and he won’t improve any further due to his age.

My overall view is that I don’t particularly want to sell Sheaf but if we did then Browne isn’t the right replacement, if Browne is a back up to Sheaf then that’s probably alright.
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Nobody is suggesting getting Browne as a Sheaf replacement. We lacked depth of squad and Browne would be taking the place of Kelly and adding an additional experienced championship midfielder to the squad
 
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Balli001

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #3,771
Tommo1993 said:
Stick to loan proposal, don’t push any harder.
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I would try to purchase myself. God age, good experience and definitely what we are missing in defence.
 
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Hoofhearted

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #3,772
Balli001 said:
I would try to purchase myself. God age, good experience and definitely what we are missing in defence.
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You'd try and purchase yourself? What position do you play? Are u a 5 or a fullback? Would you be an upgrade on Dasilva?
 
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BlueSkiesForever

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #3,773
Balli001 said:
Nobody is suggesting getting Browne as a Sheaf replacement. We lacked depth of squad and Browne would be taking the place of Kelly and adding an additional experienced championship midfielder to the squad
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I now know that you aren’t suggesting he should be a Sheaf replacement but I’m not sure what others think. If he’s there as depth to the squad then that’s fine, although I still think we could do a little better, not that I have any names
 

Balli001

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #3,774
Hoofhearted said:
You'd try and purchase yourself? What position do you play? Are u a 5 or a fullback? Would you be an upgrade on Dasilva?
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Yes to the last one no to the others
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #3,775
BlueSkiesForever said:
Why not buy him? At the right price he seems like exactly what we need. We shouldn’t overspend of course but he’s got experience and isn’t that old yet, I think he’d be a great asset.
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Loan would suggest the buying price is something we disagree with.
 
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BlueSkiesForever

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #3,776
Tommo1993 said:
Loan would suggest the buying price is something we disagree with.
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True, I just wonder if we should maybe up our bid a bit, I think he’s almost exactly what we need tbf (apart from not being foreign, ey @procdoc? )
 

Balli001

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #3,777
Tommo1993 said:
Loan would suggest the buying price is something we disagree with.
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Or Sheffield United have offered some magic beans of a high value which is pushing the price up
 
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Marty

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #3,778
BlueSkiesForever said:
I now know that you aren’t suggesting he should be a Sheaf replacement but I’m not sure what others think. If he’s there as depth to the squad then that’s fine, although I still think we could do a little better, not that I have any names
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Browne is a very good footballer at this level and brings leadership as well as a bit of a dirty side to him. Gives protection to our more technical players as the opposition know they'll get one back if they try kicking us off the pitch. He performs better further forward in the midfield but can play Sheafs type of role, if Sheaf is sold then we don't have to panic to bring in a replacement as we'll already have someone at a decent level that can do it. He should settle in fast as well and should hit the ground running, again, allows a long term Sheaf replacement to come in and get upto speed as opposed to being thrown in the deep end. Yes, there are better players but I think as a package, he's exactly what we need.
 
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Deity

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #3,779
Balli001 said:
Or Sheffield United have offered some magic beans of a high value which is pushing the price up
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Or that he wants a minimum of a 3 yr contract and Robins thinks we will be be promoted earlier than that and we then have a player we know can’t successfully play at Premier League level on a long term contract that we have to try and move on …..

I think Ipswich showed with Kieffer Moore that those type of players can make a difference in the championship but are better as loans than perm.
 
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Balli001

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  • Jun 23, 2024
  • #3,780
Deity said:
Or that he wants a minimum of a 3 yr contract and Robins thinks we will be be promoted earlier than that and we then have a player we know can’t successfully play at Premier League level on a long term contract that we have to try and move on …..

I think Ipswich showed with Kieffer Moore that those type of players can make a difference in the championship but are better as loans than perm.
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That would be the same for most of the squad though. Id rather get there and worry later. I am not against the loan but id happily sign him permanently instead
 
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