I'm not talking about incoming players. I'm well aware of the process. I was referring to contract negotiations of current players.
Others were making out that was solely conducted by Boddy.
Tbh SBB the same situation will apply
Only Mark Robins makes that decision
He will decide if he wants to keep a player, look at the available budget and decide what we can offer to extend or renew a contract
Then he'll pass it over to the admin team to do the paperwork and signatures etc.
I think most people accept that Robins has complete control of anything to do with the first team
It's different for the U23 and youth players of course
So Boddy simply signs off on transfers simply for administration purposes?
Essentially yesSo Boddy simply signs off on transfers simply for administration purposes?
Not purely administration purposes. You're looking for a very black and white answer here. Boddy is ultimately responsible for setting budget, and that would include setting guidelines around spend on individual players, contract lengths, etc. Negotiation then performed through agents. But nothing would be done without Robins say so.
We are a team on the up and Sisu are no fools ( no I am not a fan of them ) but to start selling the best striker we have had for many a year is just plain stupid, O'Hare for all his lack of goals is one of our better players and his work rate alone is paramount to our play but to start selling them cheaply so Robins has to start again is crazy
Essentially yes
And that would be the situation at most clubs apart from those where you have a wealthy owner who involves themselves in day to day things like this
Of course some wealthy owners like Abramovich have their own version of Dave Boddy within a club but you can be sure they would report back before making really big commitments
ExactlyE.g. MacAnthony at Peterborough.
Massive difference between that and suggesting he's vital to bringing players in and retaining players which are both absurd comments.
Of course, and I've probably come in half way through a conversation here. The point is really that a number of people would be involved in decision making.
I highly doubt Boddy does the salary/bonus structure completely by himself either.
Wrong.
So who’s going to negotiate the deals then?Che Adams scored 22 and went for £15m and Armstrong scored something similar and went for the same amount so maybe I'm wrong.
I just have zero confidence in the board to negotiate those kind of deals.
I take then you have considerable experience as a CEO?It was quoted in the CT. They must've got it from somewhere as Boddy didn't exactly jump to retract it.
No but it's ridiculous to openly quote such figures in the press, anyone with a brain knows that. Clubs will do their due diligence if they're looking to recruit a player and if they pick up on it, it doesn't look great. Even Robins quite obviously thought it was idiotic as he wanted no association to the comments made.
I do actually agree with Grendal. I don't particularly think Boddy is a great CEO (granted better than what we've had but that's not particularly hard).
If you actually take a step back and look his job has been made 100x easier by the work Robins and the backroom staff have done over the past 4+ years on the pitch.
We rely heavily on commercial revenue and if we are to maximise that we need someone far better at the helm as he does little to generate further income beyond the traditional means.
You have absolutely no idea. Sandra Garlick leading on contracts says it allDoesn't Sandra Garlick do most of the player contracts? I highly doubt Boddy does the salary/bonus structure completely by himself either. Haven't got a clue who would take the lead with that. Badlan? Not that that's particularly difficult anyway as it will be largely dictated by player agents and what they consider is fair.
Well he cocked up the first set of negotiations so again I'm not really all for giving him credit for something that shouldn't have really happened in the first place.
What credit is there to give him? A few 'an evening with' dinners which he hasn't really bothered in picking up again? It's bizarre how you think he's doing a spectacular job when he's literally doing the bare basics.
Literally no one wasI'm not talking about incoming players. I'm well aware of the process. I was referring to contract negotiations of current players.
Others were making out that was solely conducted by Boddy.
Who’s making stuff up now?Massive difference between that and suggesting he's vital to bringing players in and retaining players which are both absurd comments.
Who’s making stuff up now?
Which he’s entitled to say but I asked what evidence he had to back this up? He then said he doesn’t have any role in anything other than selling players for low prices, hawking them around in the press, responsible for moving us to Birmingham, responsible for the commercial side of the business that doesn’t work but not for the bits that do. Prejudice pure and simpleGuess all he’s saying is that Boddy isn’t ‘brilliant’ at his job
Which he’s entitled to say but I asked what evidence he had to back this up? He then said he doesn’t have any role in anything other than selling players for low prices, hawking them around in the press, responsible for moving us to Birmingham, responsible for the commercial side of the business that doesn’t work but not for the bits that do. Prejudice pure and simple
He has to get credit for negotiating the return
He has to get credit for overseeing the last 4 years.
Clearly there is more that could be done and facts of what could be done better without having to make stuff up
I’m not even a huge fan of his I just think to say he’s shi at his job without backing it up and saying he’ll let players go for cheap is bollocks
Which he’s entitled to say but I asked what evidence he had to back this up? He then said he doesn’t have any role in anything other than selling players for low prices, hawking them around in the press, responsible for moving us to Birmingham, responsible for the commercial side of the business that doesn’t work but not for the bits that do. Prejudice pure and simple
He has to get credit for negotiating the return
He has to get credit for overseeing the last 4 years.
Clearly there is more that could be done and facts of what could be done better without having to make stuff up
I’m not even a huge fan of his I just think to say he’s shi at his job without backing it up and saying he’ll let players go for cheap is bollocks
That’s fair enough but I don’t think that’s completely fair from what I’ve seen. Fisher links to sisu and boddy and robins sort the football stuff. Seems a tad unfair to say robins is brillaint and boddy is shitYou’re talking to someone who took personal offence on behalf of Chris Badlan not even for ‘shit’ but ‘not brilliant’.
Seems to me though Boddy is just a more acceptable yes man there to carry out orders
I think he deserves enormous credit but also there’s stuff I think how hard can it be . I do know he works his socks off many many hours a week for my clubThat’s you off Dave’s Christmas card list Pete
1 out of Vik, O hare or Hamer will be sold come summer and will be joined by more than a few I would of thought. Any of those that are out on loan are already half way out the door apart from Cashman and Burroughs who will get a chance in summer and try to push into 1st team squads.
Others out of contract I'm not sure of any will be kept on Mcfazden and Jones I think are the likeliest but I'm not sure it's guaranteed. Incomings may depend on outgoings but would expect 1 can happen with an improved budget from this season. Be a good summer to see what happens but I expect an improvement in quality not so much on numbers
I thought Adebayo was really good for Luton when we played them - he’s scored 1 more than Gyokeres this season. Having a look at the top scorers didn’t realize how far down he is
With a nice salary!I think he deserves enormous credit but also there’s stuff I think how hard can it be . I do know he works his socks off many many hours a week for my club
AbsolutelyWith a nice salary!
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