fernandopartridge
Well-Known Member
Absolutely spot on mate.
Exactly the point.
You only have to look at some of the rubbish that kept us in the top flight over the years. Bobby Gould had to build a team from scratch when Sexton left, signing players from the bottom two divisions and non league.
Then look at Strachan's squad.
Following them all round the country and getting beaten again and again. Then he'd pop up on MOTD making wise cracks.
Grade A twat.
Selective memory? Erm how do you work that out? Between 97 and 2001 I witnessed some great football by some world class players. It was a privilege. We beat the villa away for the first time ever. Quarter final of the FA cup (which we should have won) wins against man utd, Liverpool, arsenal and Chelsea. All at the time the best clubs in the league. Loads of goals and plenty of memorable games and moments. And your judgement of managers leaves a lot to be desired. I remember you saying on here thorn was a good manager. Lol
Any one of our previous managers could have took us down prior to Strachan, only good fortune and other teams results saved us on may occasions. And saying he had more than any other City manager to spend is a fallacy, he was the only City manager that really had any decent money to spend, and comparative to other clubs in the PL at the time, it was peanuts.
Quarter final that we should have won
Relegated when we should have stayed up
It's fine lines in this game
Even Don Howe couldn't relegate us.
He had a fucking good go though.
My view, based purely on the squad at his disposal, is that Phil Neal was our most successful manager. To finish midtable in the PL 93/94 with a squad including Morgan, Rennie, Harford, Boland, Flynn, Sheridan, Pickering (Ally), Robertson, Jenkinson, Darby, Kruszinski and Gayle was nothing short of astonishing.
Utter nonsense. The £6m we paid for Keane, for example, wasn't bettered by our peer clubs for years after, if indeed it was.
but with money we didn't have and sold half a season later fir double. Made money on Dublin, sold without his knowledge (familliar city trait) made on hartson, ndlovu and others (Jarni lol!). It was an era of explosion in transfer market, but I can't imagine his net spend was huge in his tenure. What happened to it?? I guess Richardson knows the answers!!
My view, based purely on the squad at his disposal, is that Phil Neal was our most successful manager. To finish midtable in the PL 93/94 with a squad including Morgan, Rennie, Harford, Boland, Flynn, Sheridan, Pickering (Ally), Robertson, Jenkinson, Darby, Kruszinski and Gayle was nothing short of astonishing.
Arguably our most successful managers in history were John Sillet and George Curtis - Since the day they left there post we are on our 16th Manger - surprisingly for those that chooses to pull him to pieces Steven Pressley is currently in 5th place with percentage games won- some other surprises down the list - our most successful Mark Robins our worst by a long way Andy Thorn
(1) Mark Robins 51.52%
(2) Eric Black 45.45%
(3) Roland Nilsson 44.19%
(4) Ian Dowie 40.82%
(5) Peter Reid 37.04%
(6) Steven Pressley 35.62%
(7) Micky Adams 33.33%
(8) Terry Butcher 33.33%
(9) Gordon Strachan 32.71%
(10) Phil Neal 31.34%
(11 )Aidy Boothroyd 30.77%
(12)Bobby Gould 30.51%
(13) Chris Coleman 29.06%
(14)Gary McAllister 27.63%
(15)Ron Atkinson 25.68%
(16) Andy Thorn 18.37%
Did Strachan not know about the clause in Dublin's contract?
Luckily he wasn't allowed to waste £6.5m on Bellamy and then £5m on Hughes
You've got to give some weighting to division/level of opposition. No way is Pressley or Reid a more successful manager for us than Neal, Strachan, Gould or Atkinson-or even Coleman!
He learnt from Gregory as opposed to Richardson that he'd gone to villa. I guess that confirms who was pulling the strings. Are we chastising Sillett for drinkell? In hindsight bellend and Hughes were dreadful but when they signed I didn't hear complaints, sometimes it doesn't work out. In fact Stockport when Hughes scored on debut and we all thought we'd we'd ounce straight back, there were choruses of who needs John haryson we've got lee Hughes. A bottle of hindsight would be a great seller.
Should have stayed up? No chance. We sold our best players (sell familiar?) and replaced them poorly. If we had kept keane, hadji and macca, we would have stayed up.
Those days were brilliant supporting ccfc. Look at the football then compared to now. You seem to and torchmatic tolerate sisu on here but yet slag the team off when we were beating man utd, Liverpool, arsenal. Bizarre. I'd take those days in flash compared to now
Should have stayed up? No chance. We sold our best players (sell familiar?) and replaced them poorly. If we had kept keane, hadji and macca, we would have stayed up.
My memories not what it was, but sure I can remember being at Villa Park when we got relegated and Hadji scoring two goals to put us 2-0 at half-time.
He learnt from Gregory as opposed to Richardson that he'd gone to villa. I guess that confirms who was pulling the strings. Are we chastising Sillett for drinkell? In hindsight bellend and Hughes were dreadful but when they signed I didn't hear complaints, sometimes it doesn't work out. In fact Stockport when Hughes scored on debut and we all thought we'd we'd ounce straight back, there were choruses of who needs John haryson we've got lee Hughes. A bottle of hindsight would be a great seller.
They all seem to forget Keane, who he signed. Worked wonders for us.
Knew at the start of the season we were going down. Sell your best midfielder who had been brilliant the previous season and your top goal scorer, plus a final game at Villa Park.... The writing was on the wall.
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