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Stop with the pessimism - jeez (3 Viewers)

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  • Start date Feb 28, 2016
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 28, 2016
  • #36
dongonzalos said:
You gave your opinion on sacking him. I didn't think that was your job either?
So what is your opinion on who should replace him if he is sacked?
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As I have repeatedly said that is a pointless argument. Manager recruitment is often complete fluke

You only have to look at who was considered the worst appointment in the premier league and the bookies hot favourite to be sacked to first to realise that.
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 28, 2016
  • #37
Grendel said:
As I have repeatedly said that is a pointless argument. Manager recruitment is often complete fluke

You only have to look at who was considered the worst appointment in the premier league and the bookies hot favourite to be sacked to first to realise that.
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So was appointing TM a fluke,good or bad appointment?
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 28, 2016
  • #38
Grendel said:
As I have repeatedly said that is a pointless argument. Manager recruitment is often complete fluke

You only have to look at who was considered the worst appointment in the premier league and the bookies hot favourite to be sacked to first to realise that.
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I didn't realise it was an argument I thought it was a question. I take it you have absolutely no idea who you would like to come in if you get your wish and Mowbray gets sacked.
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 28, 2016
  • #39
dongonzalos said:
I didn't realise it was an argument I thought it was a question. I take it you have absolutely no idea who you would like to come in if you get your wish and Mowbray gets sacked.
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So when fans called for the head of Dowie, Adams, Thorn, Pressley, Coleman, boothroyd - they all had to nominate a successor before expressing that view?
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 28, 2016
  • #40
Grendel said:
It's time for Anderson to get the Lugar out of the draw ready and waiting

Id give him 2 games to show he can turn it round.
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lol
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 28, 2016
  • #41
Grendel said:
So when fans called for the head of Dowie, Adams, Thorn, Pressley, Coleman, boothroyd - they all had to nominate a successor before expressing that view?
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Lots of people do yes. Not everyone is that short sighted to just want a sacking without considering the next appointment.
Loads of people have a look at what's available or what might be possible if the manager is sacked.
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 28, 2016
  • #42
dongonzalos said:
Lots of people do yes. Not everyone that short sighted to just want a sacking without considering the next appointment.
Loads of people have a look at what's available or what might be possible if the manager is sacked.
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I don't know any fan that thinks like that.
 

ccfctommy

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  • Feb 28, 2016
  • #43
Grendel said:
So when fans called for the head of Dowie, Adams, Thorn, Pressley, Coleman, boothroyd - they all had to nominate a successor before expressing that view?
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I've been there, we all have. Sacking Mowbray would be an unwise decision. Were still in the playoffs.
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 28, 2016
  • #44
ccfctommy said:
I've been there, we all have. Sacking Mowbray would be an unwise decision. Were still in the playoffs.
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Well it's not going to happen anyway. However, the notion that this continuing cluster fuck is not his responsibility is delusional.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Feb 28, 2016
  • #45
Grendel said:
I don't know any fan that thinks like that.
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So no Man Utd was saying sack LVG now whilst JM is available.
Or were they not talking about Pep prior to the man city announcement.
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 28, 2016
  • #46
dongonzalos said:
So no Man Utd was saying sack LVG now whilst JM is available.
Or were they not talking about Pep prior to the man city announcement.
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Fans wanted LVG gone anyway - what are you bumbling on about?
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Feb 28, 2016
  • #47
Grendel said:
Fans wanted LVG gone anyway - what are you bumbling on about?
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It's quite obvious really.
They want him gone and they are also capable of thinking about who they would like to replace him
Giggs
JM
Pep ect....
Most people are capable of doing the same thing
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 28, 2016
  • #48
dongonzalos said:
It's quite obvious really.
They want him gone and they are also capable of thinking about who they would like to replace him
Giggs
JM
Pep ect....
Most people are capable of doing the same thing
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No they just wanted him gone - and when you are one if the biggest clubs in the world by definition the likely managerial options are going to be the biggest managers in the world.

I've never once on here seen that argument applied to any managers when a fan wants his head.
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 28, 2016
  • #49
Grendel said:
No they just wanted him gone - and when you are one if the biggest clubs in the world by definition the likely managerial options are going to be the biggest managers in the world.

I've never once on here seen that argument applied to any managers when a fan wants his head.
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So would sacking Mowbray change anything?
I fear not.
 

Otis

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  • Feb 28, 2016
  • #50
Grendel said:
So when fans called for the head of Dowie, Adams, Thorn, Pressley, Coleman, boothroyd - they all had to nominate a successor before expressing that view?
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That's a very valid point.
 
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rupert_bear

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 29, 2016
  • #51
I think Micky Adams was appointed on the wish of fans
 

no_loyalty

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 29, 2016
  • #52
rupert_bear said:
I think Micky Adams was appointed on the wish of fans
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Correct, he was the chosen one
 

Otis

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  • Feb 29, 2016
  • #53
Not by me he wasn't.

I was one who didn't want him here. Think the ones I have been really happy about of late are TM, Robins and Dowie.

Was very happy when all those were announced.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Feb 29, 2016
  • #54
Fans consider who they want to replace a manager they would like sacked.
To suggest you don't think about it because it's not your job to choose the next manager is ridiculous.
Why do you bother expressing your opinion on who should get picked in the starting 11 or not. That also is not your job.
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 29, 2016
  • #55
dongonzalos said:
Fans consider who they want to replace a manager they would like sacked.
To suggest you don't think about it because it's not your job to choose the next manager is ridiculous.
Why do you bother expressing your opinion on who should get picked in the starting 11 or not. That also is not your job.
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So when fans on this forum were screaming for pressley's head show me the same posters who I also said "I think we should have so and so" - points seem totally lost and you and you are incapable of lucid thought on this topic.

I already said to you managers are a good for at some clubs and not good at others - robins proved a good fit here. The best example is Russell Slade at Orient - when appointed derided but was a great success.

Mowbray is not proving a good fit at seems to have an alarming lack of flexibility to try and resolve what is becoming a crises. He may turn it round but how much time is it we give him?
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Feb 29, 2016
  • #56
Grendel said:
So when fans on this forum were screaming for pressley's head show me the same posters who I also said "I think we should have so and so" - points seem totally lost and you and you are incapable of lucid thought on this topic.

I already said to you managers are a good for at some clubs and not good at others - robins proved a good fit here. The best example is Russell Slade at Orient - when appointed derided but was a great success.

Mowbray is not proving a good fit at seems to have an alarming lack of flexibility to try and resolve what is becoming a crises. He may turn it round but how much time is it we give him?
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If I again prove you wrong and show fans on this forum discussing who could replace SP before he was sacked.
Will you for the first time in your life admit and say the words ....
"I was wrong" ?
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 29, 2016
  • #57
dongonzalos said:
Fans consider who they want to replace a manager they would like sacked.
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Lets get Jose in and see just how special he is
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 29, 2016
  • #58
dongonzalos said:
If I again prove you wrong and show fans on this forum discussing who could replace SP before he was sacked.
Will you for the first time in your life admit and say the words ....
"I was wrong" ?
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Well, here is a thread on on the first 2 pages people just say get rid of Pressley without offering up a replacement.

http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threa...g-to-defend-Pressley/page2?highlight=Pressley
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 29, 2016
  • #59
Does that mean people can't say sisu out too
 

RegTheDonk

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 29, 2016
  • #60
Grendel said:
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Mowbray is not proving a good fit at seems to have an alarming lack of flexibility to try and resolve what is becoming a crises. He may turn it round but how much time is it we give him?
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2 more games apparently.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 29, 2016
  • #61
RegTheDonk said:
2 more games apparently.
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3 weeks?
 

RegTheDonk

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 4, 2016
  • #62
Otis said:
3 weeks?
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Not that long Otis I was quoting Gren ... and we've already lost one, so the trigger could be pulled by tomorrow night.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 4, 2016
  • #63
You really think so? Well I've predicted a defeat, so let's see, eh!
 

RegTheDonk

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  • Mar 4, 2016
  • #64
Otis said:
You really think so? Well I've predicted a defeat, so let's see, eh!
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I don't think so mate. Like I said, just quoting the big man's thinking.
 
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