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Match Thread Stoke City - Coventry City Match Thread - Saturday 17th Feb (12 Viewers)

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Seaside-Skyblue

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  • Feb 17, 2024
  • #1,121
shmmeee said:
Robins really not happy about his squad size is he?
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Yeah 80% of the interview on that very topic. Don't get wrong I know he's rarely comes across as a bundle of joy on interviews but he was quite pointy on that. Hope Torp is good for Friday.

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steve101

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  • Feb 17, 2024
  • #1,122
OldBedrocker said:
Not a criticism but Collins is a far better all round keeper than Wilson.
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Today, I felt happier with Wilson. His handling was good and he didn't fanny about at the back. Collins has been fortunate with his distribution and sometimes slows the game down unnecessarily (when we are level or behind).
 
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wingy

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  • Feb 17, 2024
  • #1,123
AiS86 said:
A very deniable fact apparently. "Collins back in soon" I'm guessing that will go down well
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Not necessarily according to Robins.
 

rob9872

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  • Feb 17, 2024
  • #1,124
OldBedrocker said:
Not a criticism but Collins is a far better all round keeper than Wilson.
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I'd say Collins much better at distribution and certainly with his feet. Wilson better on commanding his box. Both decent shot-stoppers. Collins edges it for me, but I'm never disappointed in either choice, however I do like to see a keeper with a run for them and the confidence of the defence. Chopping and changing keepers never good imo so whatever the decision, stick with it.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 17, 2024
  • #1,125
After 70 minutes the guy next to me put £10 on Stoke to score next. Think we have karma to thank for seeing it through
 
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Astute

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  • Feb 17, 2024
  • #1,126
steve101 said:
A thought on Tavares. Didn't see much of him from an attacking sense apart from a decent cross. However, I liked the way he kept the width and felt he did a good defensive job, good pressing and recovery runs. Played a part in the clean sheet. Better in that regard than Wright and Palmer.
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Best cross of the match. Pinpoint on Wright's head.

Tou can't blame Palmer for today. We were already on the back foot. He was trying to take them all on alone most of the time. A couple of intelligent times he held up the ball instead of running into a dead end.
 
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stevefloyd

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  • Feb 17, 2024
  • #1,127
shmmeee said:
Robins really not happy about his squad size is he?
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Has he mentioned it again?
 

TomRad85

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  • Feb 17, 2024
  • #1,128
shmmeee said:
Robins really not happy about his squad size is he?
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You'd think he'd be a bit happier after spending 20 odd million after years of kissing Joy's feet to throw some spare change at him.

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Astute

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  • Feb 17, 2024
  • #1,129
mark82 said:
Bigger than last year, isn't it?
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Certainly better than last year. Other than 2 players we didn't moan much as the players that were in the team are those now called out as not good enough.
 
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AiS86

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  • Feb 17, 2024
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wingy said:
Not necessarily according to Robins.
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That's what he said. "Soon" is fairly ambiguous of course. Maybe give Wilson a litte run till West Brom?
 
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slowpoke

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  • Feb 17, 2024
  • #1,131
Wilson and Collins for different reasons are a bout equal, that’s why in the summer Robins will sign another keeper, maybe two
 

Astute

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  • Feb 17, 2024
  • #1,132
shmmeee said:
Robins really not happy about his squad size is he?
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Who chose the players we signed and tried to sign?
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Feb 17, 2024
  • #1,133
steve101 said:
A thought on Tavares. Didn't see much of him from an attacking sense apart from a decent cross. However, I liked the way he kept the width and felt he did a good defensive job, good pressing and recovery runs. Played a part in the clean sheet. Better in that regard than Wright and Palmer.
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It was energetic which is what Robins was looking for in Sakamoto’s place. Without being harsh, the quality was lacking.

Perhaps Tavares should start against Maidstone. I was in the camp that he shouldn’t but today’s performance has influenced my opinion.
 
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slowpoke

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  • Feb 17, 2024
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Astute said:
Best cross of the match. Pinpoint on Wright's head.

Tou can't blame Palmer for today. We were already on the back foot. He was trying to take them all on alone most of the time. A couple of intelligent times he held up the ball instead of running into a dead end.
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It’s Palmers first touch & final ball that’s so frustrating and spoils him.
 

HadjiChippo

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  • Feb 17, 2024
  • #1,135
is our squad depth really that much worse than 70% of the clubs at this level? We brought Tavares back in today to deputise and he gave us a solid 5/6 out of 10. We’ve got 2 goalkeepers who could be number 1s for a few sides at this level. Our rotation in defence can leave us exposed at times but has been good enough to carry us through tough games.

It just seems most sides at this level are praying and hoping the 2 or 3 star players who carry them aren’t getting injured through the season and then filling the rest of the positions with whatever loanees/cheap transfers and frees they can sign.

EDIT: don’t know why that quoted you Brighton sky blue
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Feb 17, 2024
  • #1,136
slowpoke said:
Wilson and Collins for different reasons are a bout equal, that’s why in the summer Robins will sign another keeper, maybe two
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No. He wont

Wilson has 3 years on his contract as does Collins

No one will buy them. This is 'Vik is staying' all over again
 
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slowpoke

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  • Feb 17, 2024
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Astute said:
Who chose the players we signed and tried to sign?
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Everybody fit I think our squad and subs bench is okay and we can change tact if needs be.
How many are good enough for the PL, ? I’d say five outfield who hopefully be playing alongside better players.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Feb 17, 2024
  • #1,138
shmmeee said:
Robins really not happy about his squad size is he?
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Probably not but he understands it’s an incremental process and he’s setting expectations with fans.

The FA Cup was probably increased the annoyance because it’s 4-5 extra games (assuming we beat Maidstone). With the games coming thick and fast it’s v difficult to manage the players workload. Particularly so when Allen and Sheaf drop down injured within 1-2 weeks of each other.

mark82 said:
Bigger than last year, isn't it?
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No, it’s actually smaller - 3 players down from last season ‘net’.
 
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Mild-Mannered Janitor

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  • Feb 17, 2024
  • #1,139
I think when Robins goes on about squad depth, I’m sure he would like an extra one or two when we have injuries but I also think he uses it’s as a deflection from the performance and any questions about the players from the game, Ferguson used to always have something when they lost a game and I think Robins is similar.
he probably had 1-2 lined up but could t get them, he has pressure from King wanting cup run monies and also wanting promotion, players who cost money brings a different pressure to when he first took over.
 
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Astute

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  • Feb 17, 2024
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slowpoke said:
Everybody fit I think our squad and subs bench is okay and we can change tact if needs be.
How many are good enough for the PL, ? I’d say five outfield who hopefully be playing alongside better players.
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You're being very generous here.

But we have a young side that are willing to learn so will get better with experience.
 
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Johnnythespider

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  • Feb 17, 2024
  • #1,141
He's clearly making a point to someone, whether it's fans complaining about the changes or King for not giving him the squad he wanted I don't know.
 

larry_david

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  • Feb 17, 2024
  • #1,142
steve101 said:
A thought on Tavares. Didn't see much of him from an attacking sense apart from a decent cross. However, I liked the way he kept the width and felt he did a good defensive job, good pressing and recovery runs. Played a part in the clean sheet. Better in that regard than Wright and Palmer.
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I counted at least twice he was completely free and o hare went to Wright the other side. Both times who miscontrolled and lost it. Not sure why they didn't seem to want to pass to him.
 
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slowpoke

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  • Feb 17, 2024
  • #1,143
Saddlebrains said:
No. He wont

Wilson has 3 years on his contract as does Collins

No one will buy them. This is 'Vik is staying' all over again
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I think there’s a good chance Wilson will leave as will Moore there’s nothing yet below them. So do you reckon he will go with just one goalkeeper.
As for Vik I told all he was going nowhere last January, he told me himself, and he didn’t. Summer was different all down to a penalty kick.
 

Astute

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  • Feb 17, 2024
  • #1,144
Johnnythespider said:
He's clearly making a point to someone, whether it's fans complaining about the changes or King for not giving him the squad he wanted I don't know.
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How about trying to lower the expectations of many of our supporters?

Our reserve players were our 1st choice last season. They were good enough to make the playoffs and only lose to penalties with just 2 other players. 2 players don't make a good side no matter what anyone says.
 
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TJCCFC17

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  • Feb 17, 2024
  • #1,145
What did Robins say exactly on Wilson/Collins?
 
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wingy

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  • Feb 17, 2024
  • #1,146
Anyway as predicted Ellis will score a hat full in the run in!
 

Hobo

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  • Feb 17, 2024
  • #1,147
Let's be grateful about two things. A win away from home and a clean sheet, with not our strongest side but they came through. We move on.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Feb 17, 2024
  • #1,148
slowpoke said:
I think there’s a good chance Wilson will leave as will Moore there’s nothing yet below them. So do you reckon he will go with just one goalkeeper.
As for Vik I told all he was going nowhere last January, he told me himself, and he didn’t. Summer was different all down to a penalty kick.
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If Wilson was going it would have been this Summer when his stock was at its highest.

Moore is clearly going, hes just sitting taking his wage at the moment the prick

Collins and Wilson will be our keepers going into next season im 99.9% certain. Unless we go up of course
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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  • Feb 17, 2024
  • #1,149
stevefloyd said:
Has he mentioned it again?
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He had been looking at the matchday program and was comparing the size of Stoke City's squad to ours and again having a dig at Doug
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Feb 17, 2024
  • #1,150
Saddlebrains said:
If Wilson was going it would have been this Summer when his stock was at its highest.

Moore is clearly going, hes just sitting taking his wage at the moment the prick

Collins and Wilson will be our keepers going into next season im 99.9% certain. Unless we go up of course
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Can you blame Moore? Majority of us would do the same
 
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SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Feb 17, 2024
  • #1,151
shmmeee said:
Robins really not happy about his squad size is he?
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What exactly was he saying?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 17, 2024
  • #1,152
He’s the one who recruited for a wing back 3 ATB system. Yes we need more wide players but we’ve spent heavily on a different formation.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Feb 17, 2024
  • #1,153
TJCCFC17 said:
What did Robins say exactly on Wilson/Collins?
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There isn't a number 1keeper. He bought Wilson in because he needed to keep sharp is how I read it.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Feb 17, 2024
  • #1,154
Ccfcisparks said:
Can you blame Moore? Majority of us would do the same
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Yea very true, however,

Hes not played for over a year, turned down 2 L1 clubs in the summer as it was half his wage here, but that gravy train ends in June and is anyone going to take a punt on him when hes sat on his arse for 18 months?

Risky i think
 
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OldBedrocker

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  • Feb 17, 2024
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rob9872 said:
I'd say Collins much better at distribution and certainly with his feet. Wilson better on commanding his box. Both decent shot-stoppers. Collins edges it for me, but I'm never disappointed in either choice, however I do like to see a keeper with a run for them and the confidence of the defence. Chopping and changing keepers never good imo so whatever the decision, stick with it.
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Wilson Has conceded 3 gaols at his near post in the FA cup games he’s played. Collins is an upgrade
 
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