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Match Thread Stoke away 10th August 12:30 - Opening day! (3 Viewers)

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Viktor17

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #386
edgy said:
It does appear on paper a good opportunity for us to get off to a good start away from home. But don't get complacent.

EMC starts over Wright for me. Torp over Allen.

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Sheaf starts for me all day, as long as he's passed fit. He's a game ready animal, shown it before. Some fire power to bring on after 60/65 mins also!!!!
 
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edgy

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #387
Viktor17 said:
Sheaf starts for me all day, as long as he's passed fit. He's a game ready animal, shown it before. Some fire power to bring on after 60/65 mins also!!!!
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I can't see how he can start personally. Practically no pre-season.
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #388
Para1140 said:
Looks like Stoke’s injuries are mounting.
Pearson
Maaee
Rose
Stevens
Gallagher
Junho

they will have only two fit centre backs and one striker who scored one goal last season.
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Is that a list of injuries or a list of bang average championship players . I work with a Stoke fan and every season he bemoans their transfer activity
 

Chris1987

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #389
edgy said:
It does appear on paper a good opportunity for us to get off to a good start away from home. But don't get complacent.

EMC starts over Wright for me. Torp over Allen.

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That's one sexy line up with a very attractive bench too.
 
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Para1140

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #390
Perennial Lurker said:
Is that a list of injuries or a list of bang average championship players . I work with a Stoke fan and every season he bemoans their transfer activity
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The only player Id be bothered about there is Junho who seems to be their playmaker and voted plyer of the season by them. Hes currently doubtful due to illness. Hopefully hes still sitting on the toilet on Saturday
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #391
edgy said:
It does appear on paper a good opportunity for us to get off to a good start away from home. But don't get complacent.

EMC starts over Wright for me. Torp over Allen.

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Agree with this.
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #392
I can see a great game incoming, cant count Stoke out they do always seem to pick up results early on, and always seem to pick up some surprise points, however I cant look past my previous prediction of 2-0 to the Sky Blues with Simms and Torp to score.
The only thing that isnt certain abkut the lineup it seems is the EMC and Haji debate, to me it has to be Haji to start because afterall he was one of the top scorers in the Championship last season let alone for us, its currently his place to lose, it would be harsh to drop him. But EMC is a good good player so you cant have any negatives if he does start instead.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #393
Can't see Sheaf starting even if he's trained, he's barely had a pre season

He will be on the bench and get 25 minutes I reckon, looking to start v Oxford and give him an hour
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #394
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
I can see a great game incoming, cant count Stoke out they do always seem to pick up results early on, and always seem to pick up some surprise points, however I cant look past my previous prediction of 2-0 to the Sky Blues with Simms and Torp to score.
The only thing that isnt certain abkut the lineup it seems is the EMC and Haji debate, to me it has to be Haji to start because afterall he was one of the top scorers in the Championship last season let alone for us, its currently his place to lose, it would be harsh to drop him. But EMC is a good good player so you cant have any negatives if he does start instead.
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Stoke always pick up results early on?

They won 2 in 8 start of last year...
 

edgy

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #395
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
I can see a great game incoming, cant count Stoke out they do always seem to pick up results early on, and always seem to pick up some surprise points, however I cant look past my previous prediction of 2-0 to the Sky Blues with Simms and Torp to score.
The only thing that isnt certain abkut the lineup it seems is the EMC and Haji debate, to me it has to be Haji to start because afterall he was one of the top scorers in the Championship last season let alone for us, its currently his place to lose, it would be harsh to drop him. But EMC is a good good player so you cant have any negatives if he does start instead.
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Surely it's a blank sheet for the squad as a new season? It's not about who is the best player at this point. It's about who is the fittest and can perform at the level for 60/70 mins.
 
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Viktor17

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #396
edgy said:
I can't see how he can start personally. Practically no pre-season.
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He’s had 3 weeks of pre season / plus training on and off in June.

he’s our best player, he won’t have just become unfit, it’s just match fitness - get good 60/70 from him.
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #397
Saddlebrains said:
Can't see Sheaf starting even if he's trained, he's barely had a pre season

He will be on the bench and get 25 minutes I reckon, looking to start v Oxford and give him an hour
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There's absolutely no need to rush him back either . We have Rudoni,Eccles,Torp ,Allen and even Palmer or Andrews who can cover
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #398
edgy said:
Surely it's a blank sheet for the squad as a new season? It's not about who is the best player at this point. It's about who is the fittest and can perform at the level for 60/70 mins.
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As long as we don't go back to discussing players being picked or benched according to what they cost
 
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BlueSkiesForever

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #399
shmmeee said:
If we are starting Jamie Allen I don’t see how anyone can argue we’re not desperately short of midfielders.
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Exactly what I was thinking.

I agree with @procdoc’s line-up but when you see it written down it’s interesting to see we’ve only added Rudoni (which was Callum previously) and Dovin to the starting 11. I think I won the award for bedwetter of the season () so maybe it’s just me, but now I’ve seen it written down I realise we’ve only added depth up front and no depth defensively or even much outstanding quality to the starting 11 (you could say Rudoni is way better than O’Hare but I want to give him a few league games first before judging either way).
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #400
BlueSkiesForever said:
Exactly what I was thinking.

I agree with @procdoc’s line-up but when you see it written down it’s interesting to see we’ve only added Rudoni (which was Callum previously) and Dovin to the starting 11. I think I won the award for bedwetter of the season () so maybe it’s just me, but now I’ve seen it written down I realise we’ve only added depth up front and no depth defensively or even much outstanding quality to the starting 11 (you could say Rudoni is way better than O’Hare but I want to give him a few league games first before judging either way).
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Jamie Allen has been great in pre season and should be given a blank slate after his heart and injury issues last season. I'd imagine if Sheaf is out he will start Saturday as captain.
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #401
BlueSkiesForever said:
Exactly what I was thinking.

I agree with @procdoc’s line-up but when you see it written down it’s interesting to see we’ve only added Rudoni (which was Callum previously) and Dovin to the starting 11. I think I won the award for bedwetter of the season () so maybe it’s just me but now I’ve seen it written down I realise we’ve only added depth up front and no depth defensively or even much outstanding quality to the starting 11 (you could say Rudoni is way better than O’Hare but I want to give him a few league games first before judging either way).
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Jamie Allen is a consistent performer at this level and a player Robins clearly rates . Once Sheaf is fit he will likely be 5th choice for midfield and if we sign another cm even further down the pecking order. If we are to have a serious push this season having Allen available to rest others and replace others in games will be invaluable over the course of the season . I can't remember many times he's let us down and feel he's being very unfairly judged on a injury hit season.
 
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BlueSkiesForever

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #402
Ccfcisparks said:
Jamie Allen has been great in pre season and should be given a blank slate after his heart and injury issues last season. I'd imagine if Sheaf is out he will start Saturday as captain.
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Okay I’m willing to reluctantly give Allen a blank slate, I’ll genuinely put my thoughts of “him not being good enough at the level” aside and judge him based on what we see after 5-7 weeks. Currently I don’t think he’s consistently good enough at this level to be starting, but it’s probably good for me to drop any prejudices I have and give players a chance, and I’ll include Eccles in that (very very reluctantly ).
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #403
alexccfc99 said:
Funny club aren't they - They have spent an eyewatering amount of money since they got relegated to not finish outside the bottom half

If the Bet365 mob weren't so generous as owners they'd have gone to the wall years ago
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Bet365 are the exact kind of owners most football clubs would love to have. A sugar daddy (family now) supporter who is happy to fund the club.

My Stoke supporting mate reckons that if FFP weren’t a thing, they’d outspend everyone to get promotion. Perhaps a tad exaggeration but they have a lot of money.
 
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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #404
Ccfcisparks said:
Stoke always pick up results early on?

They won 2 in 8 start of last year...
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One being a 4-0 win
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #405
Perennial Lurker said:
Jamie Allen is a consistent performer at this level and a player Robins clearly rates . Once Sheaf is fit he will likely be 5th choice for midfield and if we sign another cm even further down the pecking order. If we are to have a serious push this season having Allen available to rest others and replace others in games will be invaluable over the course of the season . I can't remember many times he's let us down and feel he's being very unfairly judged on an injury hit season.
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Swansea at home…

I like Allen and he is a really good player to have in the rotation. He’s technically proficient and has a lot of energy to press teams. We did miss him at times last season when the fixtures piled up.

That all said, he is punching above his weight in this squad. Not in a nasty way, but we signed him in L1 and suspect this may well be his last dance with us.
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #406
BlueSkiesForever said:
Exactly what I was thinking.

I agree with @procdoc’s line-up but when you see it written down it’s interesting to see we’ve only added Rudoni (which was Callum previously) and Dovin to the starting 11. I think I won the award for bedwetter of the season () so maybe it’s just me, but now I’ve seen it written down I realise we’ve only added depth up front and no depth defensively or even much outstanding quality to the starting 11 (you could say Rudoni is way better than O’Hare but I want to give him a few league games first before judging either way).
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That’s a positive though. We’re not having to replace lots of departing loans. We’re just adding quality and depth. Rudoni is a big upgrade on O’Hare. Our additions are all upgrades.
 
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WestEndAgro

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #407
alfielloyd said:
A reasoned and thoughtful view, people on the street attempting to burn a hotel accommodating people and injure police officers, how the fuck do you expect him to respond.
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refer to my original comment, he's a c**t
 
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mmttww

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #408
edgy said:
EMC starts over Wright for me. Torp over Allen.
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Agree with this. Both have earned a start.
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #409
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Swansea at home…

I like Allen and he is a really good player to have in the rotation. He’s technically proficient and has a lot of energy to press teams. We did miss him at times last season when the fixtures piled up.

That all said, he is punching above his weight in this squad. Not in a nasty way, but we signed him in L1 and suspect this may well be his last dance with us.
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Agree with that
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #410
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
One being a 4-0 win
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against Rotherham on the opening day
 
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CV22SBA

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #411
Ccfcisparks said:
Stoke always pick up results early on?

They won 2 in 8 start of last year...
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They won 3 of the first 4. Only losing to Ipswich.
I'd say thats a pretty good start.
 
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napolimp

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #412
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Swansea at home…

I like Allen and he is a really good player to have in the rotation. He’s technically proficient and has a lot of energy to press teams. We did miss him at times last season when the fixtures piled up.

That all said, he is punching above his weight in this squad. Not in a nasty way, but we signed him in L1 and suspect this may well be his last dance with us.
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Absolutely. There's only so many players you can have who would be considered out an out starters as well, if you want to keep a happy squad. Players like Allen are important, where I get the impression he would be happy to be used less frequently as part of rotating the squad. Players like Sheaf, Rudoni, Torp, and Eccles will be angling to be starters.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #413
CV22SBA said:
They won 3 of the first 4. Only losing to Ipswich.
I'd say thats a pretty good start.
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right so youre counting the league cup.
I'm talking about the league.
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #414
Be honest, if in L1 we’d said one player would still be playing regularly for us as we pushed for autos, none of you would have said it would be Allen.
 
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fatso

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #415
Ccfcisparks said:
Stoke always pick up results early on?

They won 2 in 8 start of last year...
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Look at our run at the back end of last season.

Stoke are actually the form team.

Having said that I think we'll smash them 0-3
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #416
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Bet365 are the exact kind of owners most football clubs would love to have. A sugar daddy (family now) supporter who is happy to fund the club.

My Stoke supporting mate reckons that if FFP weren’t a thing, they’d outspend everyone to get promotion. Perhaps a tad exaggeration but they have a lot of money.
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They're rich but clueless, they make large losses and have a wage bill higher than many in the division.
 
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Marty

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #417
I'm going for a convincing victory here, 3-0. I just think we'll have far too much for them.

Rudoni, Simms and EMC with the goals.

I would start with EMC ahead of Wright and then give half hour for Wright at the end. Think those too interchanging late on will be devastating for the opposition.

I would start with a 3 of Eccles, Torp and Rudoni in the midfield.
 
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procdoc

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #418
The reason I think Allen will start is because we are away from home and starting both Rudoni and Torp might be a bit too attacking
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #419
Jamie allen isnt gonna be going anywhere unless he wants to leave, Robins rates him, and he is a leader in the squad and an experienced player. I used to not rate him but having seen how much we actually missed him last season I can see his quality, he doesnt stop working, great attitude and is a good impact player, pops up with goals every now and then as his movement is really good. Even if we go up he’ll stick around as a squad player, this season he will be more than a bit part
 
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ClarkeZ

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #420
Anyone know a good place to park?
Travelling up with a junior in the group so dont want to be a mile away.
 
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