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  • Start date May 17, 2017
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Skyblueweeman

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  • May 17, 2017
  • #36
skybluebeduff said:
Another bid is expected.
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Do you know when?
 

Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • May 17, 2017
  • #37
skybluebeduff said:
Another bid is expected.
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Why do you say that, it is very clear from Hoffman's latest reply that he is not submitting one, it is on SISU to speak to him.

As just published in Rieds article....
“So, we just wanted to let fans know that we see no point in putting a further offer in when we have no idea as to what SISU will sell for."
 

skybluebeduff

Well-Known Member
  • May 17, 2017
  • #38
Skyblueweeman said:
Do you know when?
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No mate, nothing that potentially effects any parts of the bids are being leaked, just confirmation that Hoffman won't give up.
 

skybluebeduff

Well-Known Member
  • May 17, 2017
  • #39
Captain Dart said:
Why do you say that, it is very clear from Hoffman's latest reply that he is not submitting one.
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Really, most of the CET article is quotes from the second failed bid, yet a third went in didn't it?
 

oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
  • May 17, 2017
  • #40
If a fourth bid is going in then that contradicts the statement issued by GH only a few hours ago.

"So, we just wanted to let fans know that we see no point in putting a further offer in when we have no idea as to what SISU will sell for."

Think unless it is significantly better than the other 3 in terms of upfront payment then to do so damages credibility with seppala and will almost certainly be rejected out of hand
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 17, 2017
  • #41
skybluebeduff said:
It's not just him involved...

Pretty sure I mentioned last week the 3rd bid was rejected,The CET as slow as ever...
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Mr Coventry then
 

skybluebeduff

Well-Known Member
  • May 17, 2017
  • #42
oldskyblue58 said:
If a fourth bid is going in then that contradicts the statement issued by GH only a few hours ago.

"So, we just wanted to let fans know that we see no point in putting a further offer in when we have no idea as to what SISU will sell for."

Think unless it is significantly better than the other 3 in terms of upfront payment then to do so damages credibility with seppala and will almost certainly be rejected out of hand
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Just like a game of poker...
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • May 17, 2017
  • #43
skybluebeduff said:
Just like a game of poker...
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What game is it being played then?
 

skybluebeduff

Well-Known Member
  • May 17, 2017
  • #44
Nick said:
What game is it being played then?
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The game where SISU win (take the generous offer) then leave the table. Submitting defeat now and letting SISU carry on is a defeat to every Sky Blue fan out there.
 
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Skyblueweeman

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  • May 17, 2017
  • #45
skybluebeduff said:
No mate, nothing that potentially effects any parts of the bids are being leaked, just confirmation that Hoffman won't give up.
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Was just about to post what OSB has said. So are you saying (and I won't hold you to this...) that despite what GH has said in the Observer which OSB has linked elsewhere, you believe that another bid will go in?
 

skybluebeduff

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  • May 17, 2017
  • #46
Skyblueweeman said:
Was just about to post what OSB has said. So are you saying (and I won't hold you to this...) that despite what GH has said in the Observer which OSB has linked elsewhere, you believe that another bid will go in?
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Yes I do, the person saying it hasn't got one thing wrong thus far, absolutely no reason at all not to believe this person. He gains nothing from telling us.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • May 17, 2017
  • #47
skybluebeduff said:
The game where SISU win (take the generous offer) then leave the table. Submitting defeat now and letting SISU carry on is a defeat to every Sky Blue fan out there.
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In fairness, you have said that from the start about every bid haven't you?

I think the second sentence sums it up a bit, that Hoffman is being seen as a hero.

Looks like the leaking is doing the job intended though with posts like that
 

skybluebeduff

Well-Known Member
  • May 17, 2017
  • #48
Nick said:
In fairness, you have said that from the start about every bid haven't you?

I think the second sentence sums it up a bit, that Hoffman is being seen as a hero.

Looks like the leaking is doing the job intended though with posts like that
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You really do have issues.
I guess SISU are heroes to you for rejecting 3 bids so far?
 
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oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
  • May 17, 2017
  • #49
skybluebeduff said:
Just like a game of poker...
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Which if negotiation was going on would be a reasonable analogy.

Right now though JS isnt even in the same room let alone sat playing her cards. She is simply firmly and promptly rejecting any invite to, the game just isnt big enough for her and by some distance in my opinion

Dont get me wrong i have long wanted SISU gone but what i have seen so far fills me with little confidence either that the bidding will succeed or in truth calmed worries about the future
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 17, 2017
  • #50
skybluebeduff said:
You really do have issues.
I guess SISU are heroes to you for rejecting 3 bids so far?
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No, why would they be?

Have a read back through your post.

Things are being leaked for a reason.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 17, 2017
  • #51
oldskyblue58 said:
Dont get me wrong i have long wanted SISU gone
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This shouldn't really have to be said, tbf.

Find me someone who wants SISU to stay, and I show you a madman!

But having been burned by SISU before, caution over potential new owners and the capability of doing the job we want them to, is surely the default position?
 
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skybluebeduff

Well-Known Member
  • May 17, 2017
  • #52
oldskyblue58 said:
Which if negotiation was going on would be a reasonable analogy.

Right now though JS isnt even in the same room let alone sat playing her cards. She is simply firmly and promptly rejecting any invite to, the game just isnt big enough for her and by some distance in my opinion

Dont get me wrong i have long wanted SISU gone but what i have seen so far fills me with little confidence either that the bidding will succeed or in truth calmed worries about the future
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I agree, with SISU we have no future, every month with them in charge produces more uncertainty about how we'll survive the future. Having Coventry fans bid for the club who regardless of what Les or Andy have printed, don't want to give up until they've won.
 

skybluebeduff

Well-Known Member
  • May 17, 2017
  • #53
Nick said:
No, why would they be?

Have a read back through your post.

Things are being leaked for a reason.
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The future of our club is up in the air, of course it would be leaked, the people bidding are CCFC fans who care about the club and fans.... it's no shock horror is it?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 17, 2017
  • #54
skybluebeduff said:
The future of our club is up in the air, of course it would be leaked, the people bidding are CCFC fans who care about the club and fans.... it's no shock horror is it?
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Do you really think it's just being leaked because they are CCFC Fans? It's being leaked so people make posts exactly like that and it helps build some pressure

You will be told things for a reason, you will only be told certain things.
 

skybluebeduff

Well-Known Member
  • May 17, 2017
  • #55
Nick said:
Do you really think it's just being leaked because they are CCFC Fans? It's being leaked so people make posts exactly like that and it helps build some pressure
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SISU under pressure is a good thing

And exactly, everything leaked so far isn't anything that could scupper a deal. I'd say it's nice that some fans can relay info to fellow fans.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 17, 2017
  • #56
skybluebeduff said:
SISU under pressure is a good thing
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Are they under pressure because Hoffman is leaking certain bits and phrases he wants to be repeated over and over?

I don't think you realise that the "leak" will be done as and when as a tool, and not because they are your mate. Exactly the same as when Labovitch tried it thinking people would repeat his shit.
 

Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • May 17, 2017
  • #57
skybluebeduff said:
No mate, nothing that potentially effects any parts of the bids are being leaked, just confirmation that Hoffman won't give up.
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Not giving up and not submitting a 4th bid at this time are not incompatible positions. Patience is required.....
 

skybluebeduff

Well-Known Member
  • May 17, 2017
  • #58
Nick said:
Are they under pressure because Hoffman is leaking certain bits and phrases he wants to be repeated over and over?

I don't think you realise that the "leak" will be done as and when as a tool, and not because they are your mate. Exactly the same as when Labovitch tried it thinking people would repeat his shit.
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Believe what ever you want mate, that's upto you.
 

Skyblueweeman

Well-Known Member
  • May 17, 2017
  • #59
skybluebeduff said:
Yes I do, the person saying it hasn't got one thing wrong thus far, absolutely no reason at all not to believe this person. He gains nothing from telling us.
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Another question (and feel free not to answer this one in case it jeopardises what you're being fed)...I assume it's the GH consortium and not another?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 17, 2017
  • #60
skybluebeduff said:
Believe what ever you want mate, that's upto you.
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Or I will believe it because it's blatantly obvious...

While I don't doubt that you are hearing some truths, you are also hearing "this week is going to be a good one". When a takeover doesn't happen, who are you getting angry with? Is it Hoffman?
 

skybluebeduff

Well-Known Member
  • May 17, 2017
  • #61
Nick said:
Or I will believe it because it's blatantly obvious...

While I don't doubt that you are hearing some truths, you are also hearing "this week is going to be a good one". When a takeover doesn't happen, who are you getting angry with? Is it Hoffman?
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Who's the one getting wound up and getting angry? I've mentioned a fourth bid and you've got very defensive. Take this as some advise, no-one gives a shit what you think.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • May 17, 2017
  • #62
skybluebeduff said:
Who's the one getting wound up and getting angry? I've mentioned a fourth bid and you've got very defensive. Take this as some advise, no-one gives a shit what you think.
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What's defensive and where?

You are the one giving it loads about it with the "nobody gives a shit what you think". I haven't once said they have.

I have just pointed out that the leaks won't just be innocent leaks, they will be thought out and done for a reason. You are getting defensive because of that.
 

blueflint

Well-Known Member
  • May 17, 2017
  • #63
Nick said:
Do you really think it's just being leaked because they are CCFC Fans? It's being leaked so people make posts exactly like that and it helps build some pressure

You will be told things for a reason, you will only be told certain things.
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you are so cynical
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 17, 2017
  • #64
blueflint said:
you are so cynical
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As opposed to gullible?

Again, I know beduff is just passing on about the 4th bid as what he has heard. I am just pointing out it will be leaked for a reason...
 

skybluebeduff

Well-Known Member
  • May 17, 2017
  • #65
Nick said:
What's defensive and where?

You are the one giving it loads about it with the "nobody gives a shit what you think". I haven't once said they have.

I have just pointed out that the leaks won't just be innocent leaks, they will be thought out and done for a reason. You are getting defensive because of that.
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Enjoy your day talking about it for the next 5 hours. The 'leaks'have all been solid, you'll just have to wait for the CET in another weeks time for more info
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 17, 2017
  • #66
skybluebeduff said:
Enjoy your day talking about it for the next 5 hours. The 'leaks'have all been solid, you'll just have to wait for the CET in another weeks time for more info
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You haven't read what I have put.

Of course the leaks are solid, they are from the horse's mouth. It's a couple of bits they want you to know and repeat
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • May 17, 2017
  • #67
if the leaks pile on pressure that helps a deal get done its just good business.
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • May 17, 2017
  • #68
covcity4life said:
if the leaks pile on pressure that helps a deal get done its just good business.
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And SISU have shown that kind of approach works with them, haven't they?

it worked in the run-up to Northampton, after all...
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 17, 2017
  • #69
Deleted member 5849 said:
And SISU have shown that kind of approach works with them, haven't they?

it worked in the run-up to Northampton, after all...
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Didn't work with Labovitch either.

Was so obvious he just wanted people to repeat things, yet I don't think a single person actually did. Not because it was top secret, more because that was the aim.
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • May 17, 2017
  • #70
Deleted member 5849 said:
And SISU have shown that kind of approach works with them, haven't they?

it worked in the run-up to Northampton, after all...
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why dont you just wait and see? no one can say for sure right now wether if will work or not
 
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