Steve Harrison has seen 3 managers off (6 Viewers)

cloughie · Nov 7, 2011

Since Harrison joined
We have finished......17th....19th,,,,,18th and currently 23rd

3 Different mangers...........maybe this is a coincidence or is one of the problems of the team, regardless of which players we have had,

Poor coaching I wonder

What do you think?

We'll_live_and_die · Nov 7, 2011

He has been the one consistent and he does shape (coach) the players. You only have to look at the likes of Best and Eastwood to see what has happened to good players at ccfc. Maybe backroom staff and especially fitness coaches are the problem?

Nonleagueherewecome · Nov 7, 2011

Well Best was mediocre when we signed him and has gone on to be a good Premiership player with the coaching he got here..whereas Freddy was talented but lazy and is now just lazy. I'm pretty certain that Best improved massively here as a player, whereas Freddy clearly hasn't. Does that make Harrison a good or a bad coach? Probably somewhere in between, and certainly better with youngsters than "teaching old dogs new tricks".

procdoc · Nov 7, 2011

you mean former England coach Steve Harrison, one of the most highly respected coaches in the country?
He only got sacked from england for shatting in a pint glass

Nick · Nov 7, 2011

procdoc said:
you mean former England coach Steve Harrison, one of the most highly respected coaches in the country?
He only got sacked from england for shatting in a pint glass

Ha for what?

rob9872 · Nov 7, 2011

I thought that was common knowledge. I've already used the "shit in the cup" for the last few competitions we've exited from. However, I think England coach is stretching it not least because he was Graham Taylor's sidekick from their Watford days. He liked Hoofball which is why he was also AB's assistant more tha once (and of course teh Watford connection). I don't thik its his quality coaching that got him the England gig but his choice of mates. Poor coach, achieved very little and amazed at the respect he seems to have.

Grendel · Nov 7, 2011

rob9872 said:
I thought that was common knowledge. I've already used the "shit in the cup" for the last few competitions we've exited from. However, I think England coach is stretching it not least because he was Graham Taylor's sidekick from their Watford days. He liked Hoofball which is why he was also AB's assistant more tha once (and of course teh Watford connection). I don't thik its his quality coaching that got him the England gig but his choice of mates. Poor coach, achieved very little and amazed at the respect he seems to have.

Yep well known fact is that. Also look at Middlesbourough pre and post Harrison - enough said.

stupot07 · Nov 7, 2011

kduffy said:
Yep well known fact is that. Also look at Middlesbourough pre and post Harrison - enough said.

sorry kd...not sure what your getting at

cloughie · Nov 7, 2011

procdoc said:
you mean former England coach Steve Harrison, one of the most highly respected coaches in the country?
He only got sacked from england for shatting in a pint glass

Highly respected by who???

Ah yes look at the success England had during that time ....................world cup winners................ euro winners ..........

Sorry was just dosing off there into a lovely dream

Maybe the next international tournament then

procdoc · Nov 7, 2011

cloughie said:
Highly respected by who???

Ah yes look at the success England had during that time ....................world cup winners................ euro winners ..........

Sorry was just dosing off there into a lovely dream

Maybe the next international tournament then

Read Stan Collymores book mate, he says that he was highly respected by all the villa players when he was there

cloughie · Nov 7, 2011

procdoc said:
Read Stan Collymores book mate, he says that he was highly respected by all the villa players when he was there

The highly intelligent Stan collimore

and how did the vile do at that time any good or not?

Grendel · Nov 7, 2011

Basically they were the dullest team in England. Every team with Harrison around is dull, dull, dull and going nowhere - sound familiar?

procdoc · Nov 8, 2011

cloughie said:
The highly intelligent Stan collimore

and how did the vile do at that time any good or not?

Stan Collymore is highly intelligent. Villa did better than us at the time

rob9872 · Nov 8, 2011

To be fair to the guy he is quite savvy for a footballer, although I think "highly intelligent" is somewhat stretching it.

procdoc · Nov 8, 2011

rob9872 said:
To be fair to the guy he is quite savvy for a footballer, although I think "highly intelligent" is somewhat stretching it.

I mean highly intelligent for a footballer rob. He actually speaks quite elegantly and can string sentences together. But he can't shit in a pint glass

Paxman II · Nov 8, 2011

I've been banging on about this for a while....are some of you catching up?

However it must be said Thorn should instil what he wants and I wonder if Harrison's superior coaching ability has overridden Thorns ability to mange how he wants?

Why is an experience and respected coach not telling Thorn his diamond is a failure?

I like Thorn a lot and think he could become a very good manager but right now he seems too naive for his post at the moment.
I admire what he has been trying to do but when will he concentrate on just getting results and let the pretty stuff follow later?
Time is short Andy, you have to play the cards you got and change the the thinking a little before we are cut adrift and all confidence is drained from the players. Then it will truly be a task too far...

johnniericoh · Nov 8, 2011

I agree Cloughie.

Harrison has presided over totally different styles of play as a background coach.

How does he suddenly change from coaching hoof-ball (AB) and then completely turning 360 degrees to coach diamond-ball (AT) - what is HIS personal playing preference, does he have influence when things go wrong, was he responsible for the flawed diamond ???

I think the roles of manager and coach sometimes get blurred so I would like to know who has the most influence on playing style AT or SH.

PUSB

cloughie · Nov 8, 2011

procdoc said:
Stan Collymore is highly intelligent. Villa did better than us at the time

Who didn't

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