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Stats figures for how much each Championship club has spent (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Apr 23, 2021
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Barnsley

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  • Apr 25, 2021
  • #106
Boosh said:
Yes but you were able to spend £20m on a striker in January
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£25M I heard
 

Evo1883

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  • Apr 25, 2021
  • #107
Barnsley said:
£25M I heard
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Congratulations btw
 

Barnsley

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  • Apr 25, 2021
  • #108
Evo1883 said:
Congratulations btw
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Two years ago we achieved our goal, which was promotion to the championship, last season we achieved our goal of staying in this league, this season we achieved our goal for the season in February, then it changed to finishing top 6, now we’ve achieved that, it changes to reaching the final.

But whatever happens now, the youngest squad in the championship is probably the most experienced at achieving their seasonal targets, that’s got to stand us in good stead going forward into the playoffs and beyond into next season.

It’s been a fantastic season for the club.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Apr 25, 2021
  • #109
Barnsley said:
Two years ago we achieved our goal, which was promotion to the championship, last season we achieved our goal of staying in this league, this season we achieved our goal for the season in February, then it changed to finishing top 6, now we’ve achieved that, it changes to reaching the final.

But whatever happens now, the youngest squad in the championship is probably the most experienced at achieving their seasonal targets, that’s got to stand us in good stead going forward into the playoffs and beyond into next season.

It’s been a fantastic season for the club.
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If you pull it off , that 1 season no matter what happens is worth 170 million.

Your club will change forever
 

Frostie

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  • Apr 25, 2021
  • #110
Grendel said:
Where do you get these figures from? The accounts are sure the accounts for 17 18 are they?
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NEWS: Coventry City publish accounts for year ended 31st May 2019

Coventry City Football Club (Otium Entertainment Group) has published the latest set of accounts for the year ended 31 May, 2019.
www.ccfc.co.uk

Wages and salaries to 31 May 2019 increased from the previous year, from £3,988,263 to £4,676,724 – an increase largely as a result of increased employee costs as a result of promotion to League 1.
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 25, 2021
  • #111
Frostie said:

NEWS: Coventry City publish accounts for year ended 31st May 2019

Coventry City Football Club (Otium Entertainment Group) has published the latest set of accounts for the year ended 31 May, 2019.
www.ccfc.co.uk

Wages and salaries to 31 May 2019 increased from the previous year, from £3,988,263 to £4,676,724 – an increase largely as a result of increased employee costs as a result of promotion to League 1.
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Odd

On the actual accounts filed at companies house it’s £4.8m in the promotion season - I assume then this is actually players wages only
 

Frostie

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  • Apr 25, 2021
  • #112
Grendel said:
Odd

On the actual accounts filed at companies house it’s £4.8m in the promotion season - I assume then this is actually players wages only
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£4.2m, £4.8m is the following season but there's a note that says that £360k has already been accounted for within direct operating costs.
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 25, 2021
  • #113
Frostie said:
£4.2m, £4.8m is the following season but there's a note that says that £360k has already been accounted for within direct operating costs.
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But the gross wages are still £4.9 million in the accounts so even with the footnote it’s £4.6 million
 

Frostie

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  • Apr 25, 2021
  • #114
Grendel said:
But the gross wages are still £4.9 million in the accounts so even with the footnote it’s £4.6 million
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Think you're looking at the wrong season aren't you? Wouldn't it be the previous one of £4.2m?
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 25, 2021
  • #115
Frostie said:
Think you're looking at the wrong season aren't you? Wouldn't it be the previous one of £4.2m?
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Page 17 and I don’t even understand the footnote (I see it) as we declared gross wages of £4.8 million of a net of £4.2
 

Frostie

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  • Apr 25, 2021
  • #116
Grendel said:
Page 17 and I don’t even understand the footnote (I see it) as we declared gross wages of £4.8 million of a net of £4.2
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Think the £4.8m is for the 18/19 (L1) season & £4.2m for the 17/18 (L2) season.

Not sure on the note either, one for @oldskyblue58 I think.

 

Grendel

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  • Apr 25, 2021
  • #117
Frostie said:
Think the £4.8m is for the 18/19 (L1) season & £4.2m for the 17/18 (L2) season.

Not sure on the note either, one for @oldskyblue58 I think.

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I agree but you do have to include other costs so it’s £4.8 million - that’s the wage bill - there are11 non player and management team employees excluding stewards
 

SBAndy

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  • Apr 26, 2021
  • #118
Frostie said:
Think the £4.8m is for the 18/19 (L1) season & £4.2m for the 17/18 (L2) season.

Not sure on the note either, one for @oldskyblue58 I think.

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I’d hazard a guess that’s something like stewarding on ZHCs.
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 26, 2021
  • #119
SBAndy said:
I’d hazard a guess that’s something like stewarding on ZHCs.
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The stewards are included but the only oddity is the following season - the last at the Ricoh - the same footnote is there but the amount is far less
 

SBAndy

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 26, 2021
  • #120
Grendel said:
The stewards are included but the only oddity is the following season - the last at the Ricoh - the same footnote is there but the amount is far less
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Does this tally with when Wasps took on more control of stewarding? So possibly wouldn’t be seen as a direct cost and more as a fixed cost? Just theorising here, no idea whether this is correct or not but seems plausible.
 

oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
  • Apr 26, 2021
  • #121
Couple of things

- because of the way that the notes declaration works the average number of stewards would be based on the total number of stewards registered as employed by the company whether or not they were actually paid each month. Clearly in 2019 the club had not deregistered most of the stewards.
- you cannot exclude from wages costs the social security (employers National insurance) or the pension costs when looking at total wage cost - most of those categories will be for playing side.
- I think for 2018/19 season Wasps took over the stewarding with some small input from CCFC hence the disparity
- 4.8m total wages costs in L2 2017/18 is actually pretty competitive and at the higher end of wage spend in that division
- looks to me that wages increased overall by 16 to 17% moving from L2 to L1
- most teams, especially in lower divisions, do not give a split between playing/managerial and other/admin wages (if they give any sort of analysis at all the smaller the club is)

I suspect how CCFC calculate the playing budget has no real connection to EFL theoretical calculations. It is much more likely to be along the lines of setting an income budget deducting known expected fixed costs and overheads which leaves the amount available for MR. Player sales if expected are built in but any extra ones are skewed more towards repaying the owners (that doesnt mean MR wont get use of some of it)

still comes down to not just how much but also how any budget is spent.
 
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