Ccfcisparks
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Have you got stats or a study to backup your claim considering its a "Fact"
Have you got stats or a study to backup your claim considering its a "Fact"We didn’t get relegated and when we did we’d by then had a very small wage bill
In the championship there have been more Clubs with top end wage bills and income relegated than in any other league
It’s a fact
Have you got stats or a study to backup your claim considering its a "Fact"
And where are your stats confirming that they were at the top end of the wage budget in the league?Wigan, Blackburn, Wolves, Sunderland, Ipswich Leeds (points deduction maybe?) Hull , soon to be Sheffield Wednesday , Man City, forest, Norwich, Leicester
In 2 years unless they get back Bournemouth and Swansea I confidently predict
Sheffield Wednesday have had a points deduction also.Wigan, Blackburn, Wolves, Sunderland, Ipswich Leeds (points deduction maybe?) Hull , soon to be Sheffield Wednesday , Man City, forest, Norwich, Leicester
In 2 years unless they get back Bournemouth and Swansea I confidently predict
Hull had the 15th worst wage bill last year, I wouldnt consider that a top end budget either. Its like you pick these teams without the stats to back them up, almost like you are clutching at straws?Wigan, Blackburn, Wolves, Sunderland, Ipswich Leeds (points deduction maybe?) Hull , soon to be Sheffield Wednesday , Man City, forest, Norwich, Leicester
In 2 years unless they get back Bournemouth and Swansea I confidently predict
I dont think there is an example anywhere of the biggest spending club being relegated to be fairNo one suggests a perfect correlation
However Clearly large spend in the championship is not as much an indicator of success than in other leagues. The biggest spending club never gets relegated in the Premier L1 or 2 but does happen in this league
Likewise if club A has a £30 million wage bill and next season it’s targeted to reduce to £20 million while club b has £4 million increasing to £7 million in net terms A is a depreciating asset strategy while b is increasing so personally I’d rather be I. Charge of B
Who would most likely win when Team A played Team B?
I dont think there is an example anywhere of the biggest spending club being relegated to be fair
Didn’t Sunderland and Wolves have one of the largest budgets in the Championship when they went down from the Prem to L1 in consecutive seasons?
When Wolves were in L1 with us they still had players on PL wages. I know that Sam Ricketts was still on £30K per week!!Didn’t Sunderland and Wolves have one of the largest budgets in the Championship when they went down from the Prem to L1 in consecutive seasons?
Well according to Grendels sampling, teams just relegated from the premier league are excluded. Therefore they aren’t valid examples.Possibly, but they didn't have the largest
You are being obtuse. Have they? Have they looked likely to be and while we are at it in league two were we or Portsmouth likely to be relegated at anytime in those leagues?
Portsmouth definitely flirted with relegation to the Conference in 2013-14. They were lying in 22nd place with only 7 games left, so I imagine a lot of their fans feared the worst at that precise moment in time.
They did secure 17 points from 21 if they were 22nd with 7 leftthey finished 3 points off 8th
Yeah but that’s not considered flirting with relegation if it doesn’t fit Grendels agendaThey did secure 17 points from 21 if they were 22nd with 7 left
Relegation was 50 points they got 59 ..
So we're on 42 with 7 games left
they finished 3 points off 8th
It means that we haven’t been flirting with relegation all year because we are likely to finish 9 points above the drop zone!Irrelevant - that's just hindsight. After 39 games they were only 2 points above the drop zone and closer to relegation than we were at the same point this season. Even so there were many on here that were convinced we were in real danger of going down this season, so I'm pretty sure a large element of Portsmouth's fans would have thought the same at that time.
We’ve got a wage bill that’s in the bottom 6 in this league. Which is to be expected when we’re running on only the money the club generates.
Brentford have a wage bill that’s 180% of their annual income, and they owe their owner £102M but through player sales they’re chipping away at it.
You are an anomaly though really, and it's not the normal
There's little evidence of cheating catching up with the rest. A couple of teams fined and Sheff Wednesday deducted 6 points yet the overspending goes on.It will be at some point, well run clubs going about it the right way, will see off the big spending shit or bust type. Get your house in order like us, Luton, Millwall, yourselves and you’ll end up a top 10 side whilst the cheating catches up with the rest.
There's little evidence of cheating catching up with the rest. A couple of teams fined and Sheff Wednesday deducted 6 points yet the overspending goes on.
Well they have punished themselves by being so badly managed that they were relegated and have suffered in L1 and some in L2 but how many have broken FFP and been penalised for it?Sunderland, Wigan, Ipswich, Hull, all getting their punishment Pompey have been getting theirs 10 years, Wednesday getting theirs this season, Derby’s and Birmingham’s won’t be long in coming, all lot will come back with far smaller bills than they went down with. They’ll be more to come too in my opinion.
Well they have punished themselves by being so badly managed that they were relegated and have suffered in L1 and some in L2 but how many have broken FFP and been penalised for it?
Be nice for governing bodies to govern though. Hopefully Agent Rooney will successfully complete his task & Derby will also be punished in 3 games timeThe cheating as caught up with them, it’s unsustainable to keep throwing piles of money at established names, paying way over the odds trying to get to the greed league, the governing bodies are spineless bottle jobs, with absolutely no grip on the cheating bastards, but fortunately the mercenaries having a final payday are punishment enough.
The wages quoted are ridiculous - our wage bill was nearly £4 million in league two
Where is the proof of that?
How much of that is likely to be non playing staff though, just askingHe's deliberately twisting it by comparing our entire club's wage bill to just the playing staff of others.
Our wage bill for the entire club in the L2 season was £3,988,263 from the club's accounts.
How much of that is likely to be non playing staff though, just asking
It will be at some point, well run clubs going about it the right way, will see off the big spending shit or bust type. Get your house in order like us, Luton, Millwall, yourselves and you’ll end up a top 10 side whilst the cheating catches up with the rest.
He's deliberately twisting it by comparing our entire club's wage bill to just the playing staff of others.
Our wage bill for the entire club in the L2 season was £3,988,263 from the club's accounts.
We’ve got a wage bill that’s in the bottom 6 in this league. Which is to be expected when we’re running on only the money the club generates.
Brentford have a wage bill that’s 180% of their annual income, and they owe their owner £102M but through player sales they’re chipping away at it.
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