Starting Cole a big mistake ? (1 Viewer)
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Gazolba
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I was thinking the same thing myself! Such a clause may also be involved with Armstrong and Kent.
Grendel
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I suspect it certainly applies to Kent
Samo
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Kent has already been left out hasn't he?
bawtryneal
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I have never been a professional footballer or athlete but I find it amazing that Joe Cole cannot play 60 minutes on Tuesday and last at least 80 minutes on Saturday. I appreciate the difference between match fit and training but he has been playing in Villa reserves and training with a Premier League team all season following a full pre season. As commented above if he cannot last that long he shouldn't have started.
SlowerThanPlatt
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99% with Kent. He was going to go to Leeds and probably only dropped to L1 because no Championship clubs could offer a start every game
I don't think that it is a marketing gimmick but see where you are coming from. I just think that there is a world of difference playing in an under 21 game to a full blooded game in League 1 and TM has to manage his transition carefully. I fully expect him to start next week and to play the full 90 mins.
SkyBlue_Bear83
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covcity4life
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Cole will tear it up on Saturday. It's gonna be a glorious win
stupot07
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He needs to play minutes to get fit so that we can benefit in the last 2-3 games or this spell and hopefully beyond if we manage to extend his stay. Playing the last 20 isn't going to do that.
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Rubbish! We were 2-0 up with 5 mins to go. Nothing to do with Joe Cole or what sub's remained. We had a good solid side out there that should of seen the game out no matter what.
johnwillomagic
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Starting Kent every bloody game bothers me far more than giving Joe Cole a few games to get fit!! I know
Joe Cole can produce end quality.........i don't see it with Kent tbh......anyway said Swindon game was Kent's big
chance which he blew...again....will be very surprised if Kent not benched for next match
Joe Cole can produce end quality.........i don't see it with Kent tbh......anyway said Swindon game was Kent's big
chance which he blew...again....will be very surprised if Kent not benched for next match
Agree JWM have been a bit concerned around benching some of our own.
There Is no doubting the lad Is exciting but Is thinking too much about his game rather than producing end product, having said that the best form of defence Is attack and he must pre occupy a great their defenders hugely.
On the matter of Cole and Fitnessif he's travelling up and down from the smoke daily he's going to be knackered.
Remember when Wise came he hadn't played for ages IIRC and he slotted In straight away and a level above this.
I hope Joe Is a success and brings his game soon or It could look like took the wrong option over Eagles.
Unfortunately for me I have a distrustful mind and do wonder although TM said he had many conversations whether someone else at the Club Influenced one over the other.
It probably Isn't the case as Mcsheffrey Indicated he'd known for a while, but the betting odds Including. Eagles for a while suggest someone somewhere was getting a point across. Clive Eakin to has said the Club (privately)have been disappointed with the gates and Cole commercially should be a draw.
Oh and last Saturday Steve Evans was sitting. In the directors box as a guest of Steve Waggot.
Bang on, nothing at all to do with cole... The game was won & he was gone long before it fell apart today. 2-0 up and we took our foot off the gas... Simple as that. Once we had done that it was hard to try and get back into our rhythm.
And when cole was on , he appeared to offer a constant threat
Yeah they put a couple of reducers In on him and Kent.
pusbccfc
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Didn't even get yellows. Those are the sort of decisions that wouldn't happened at the home.
Hobo
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This is not what people on here were saying a week ago....League 1 was a cake walk for his skill set?
People need to ask why he hasn't been playing first team football?
I am not being a killjoy here, I still think this is a good loan for us, just don't think of it as being a miracle solution to everything.
People need to ask why he hasn't been playing first team football?
I am not being a killjoy here, I still think this is a good loan for us, just don't think of it as being a miracle solution to everything.
Warwickhunt
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Look at Bury results and we will know if eagles was a mistake! Big time Charlie's don't always bring success because they are in it for themselves. Coles on the other hand does'nt give a shite about money he just wants to play football. TM took him off to protect him Swindon were rotating players to tackle him and as he gets fitter he will be able to ride the personal attention he is getting
ccfcmad1
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100% agree with you would start him over kent all day long, his eye for a pass is something we need right now must start vs Peterbrough.
johnwillomagic
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Yep I would rather start Lameiras, Tudgay, Murphy or Fortune over Kent at the moment imo.
I think given the options would rather Lameiras got first look in.
Thought him Job & Maddison looked great when they played early season.......we have two to
keep selection relatively balance it is who takes the other place which for me is either Cole
or Murphy......as Peterboro very attacking side find it hard to make that choice though
Murphy has more counter attacking pace so may get the nod from me on this one.
Having said that fully expect Kent to start....
I think given the options would rather Lameiras got first look in.
Thought him Job & Maddison looked great when they played early season.......we have two to
keep selection relatively balance it is who takes the other place which for me is either Cole
or Murphy......as Peterboro very attacking side find it hard to make that choice though
Murphy has more counter attacking pace so may get the nod from me on this one.
Having said that fully expect Kent to start....
stupot07
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No don't Lamieres was in the side, Kent came on for him in kents first game (Scunthorpe - think he signed on the Friday so hadn't trained) then immediately replaced him in his second game v Chesterfield and has been keeping him out ever since.
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Kilclines curly mullet
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You could tell he was knackered after about half an hour but this was also after one or two hefty challenges. Forgetting the last 10 minutes (yes I await the stick) the plan worked well. The game opened up in the 2nd half and the pace of Murphy & Lameries caused Swindon problems.
for me the real issue is the decision making in the final 3rd. So much of football is played in the mind not just with the feet. Maddision is head and shoulders above the rest in this respect which is why the Premier League big hitters are circling.
Kent and Murphy to a lesser degree can run and dribble but there is no "match experience" in terms of when to hold it, when to pass it, when to play for a corner etc.
i guess though this is why these players are with us at the moment and as frustrating as it is we can always go back to the likes of Delfonso and the rest.
for me the real issue is the decision making in the final 3rd. So much of football is played in the mind not just with the feet. Maddision is head and shoulders above the rest in this respect which is why the Premier League big hitters are circling.
Kent and Murphy to a lesser degree can run and dribble but there is no "match experience" in terms of when to hold it, when to pass it, when to play for a corner etc.
i guess though this is why these players are with us at the moment and as frustrating as it is we can always go back to the likes of Delfonso and the rest.
